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The Last Game
Topic Started: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:06 am (1,364,668 Views)
LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Oh right, forgot about Xu Huang too.

I'm also surprised you never liked Xiahou Dun, he's a pretty badass character and rare to find in Musou games. :asia:


I honestly like Ma Chao and Xiahou Dun equally, maybe the reason why I like Xiahou Dun a lot because he's the first guy I have ever seen in all Musou games :P


In DW5, really liked Ma Chao a lot! :justice:
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Sanada
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I did like Xiahou Dun quite a lot back in DW2, but not so much beyond there. :mellow:

Especially in DW5 I didn't really like him, too obsessed with Guan Yu :asia:
Until there he was certainly on the positive side of things.
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I see, so hating him cuz he dislike Guan Yu :P

Didn't really care much about this, even tho, I like both.
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Sanada
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I actually dislike Guan Yu :asia:
I just thought it was really boring of him :mellow:
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LegendaryDragonWarrior
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Guan Yu is great :asia:


Pang De and Cao Pi were great in DW5. Both now became meh. DW7 and DW8 has too much characters.
Although DW6 has TOO MUCH change, But at least they did great story because of less characters.
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Sanada
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He's alright, but he's pretty dull :mellow:

Same issue I have with Tadakatsu of course, so that's no surprise :lol:


Pang De I quite liked, but also had a similar issue to Guan Yu with me. Cao Pi I actually just didn't like, although he did certainly get worse following DW5 :mellow:
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You don't like wise men eh? :asia:

I do understand that tho. But Tadakatsu is really great in SWXL imo. :tonbogiri:

Lu Bu does have better personality than Tadakatsu tho i admit :lubu:
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Nah, I like wise characters, just they need to have something more interesting to them to me :asia:
He was certainly more interesting to me in SW:XL than in SW2, but he did have more screen time as it was his introduction :mellow: Plus the rivalry with Keiji :honda:

Although that original list of who I liked was back at DW5, it's changed since then to begin with :P
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Exactly! Tadakatsu VS Keiji rivalry is the best thing to happen imo. They should bring it back.


Didnt like Tadakatsu much in SW4... They made him like a bit way of an old man :asia:


I like his SW2 design mostly because he looks kinda youth there like in his late 20's or early 30's.

In WO1 Tadakatsu also has one of his best moments there. His personality was great.

Not a blank character... :mellow:
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Yeah, he's not blank, he has character, it's just rather generic and boring to me :mellow:

Well not counting for SW3 or 4 at least. :asia:
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2:47, This never gets old. I used to like to hear him saying this quote a lot back in the days :justice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zb6sUV3QwE
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With this talk about Wei, Shu & Wu...

am I the only one who likes Jin? Don't see much discussion about that here :XD I really liked how they introduced a new "kingdom" in DW7. Guo Huai, Deng Ai, Jia Chong and Wen Yang are my favorites from that.

I don't really care about DW much anymore but Wei is still my favorite because it has Jia Xu and most of the generals there are cool too.
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I don't like Jin much, but Jin is actually Wei. lol


The only thing I like about Jin is Wen Yang. I only played DW8 story just to unlock this guy
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Yeah it should be called Wei 2.0 or Sima :asia:

:honda:
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Sima Yi betrayed the Cao family
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:tonbogiri:
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:13 pm
There really has been a lack of activity here lately :mellow:
Indeed :asia:
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:asia:
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I was talking from old DW5 and before DWs, no Jin in that discussion :P
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Sanada
Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:01 pm
I did like Xiahou Dun quite a lot back in DW2, but not so much beyond there. :mellow:

Especially in DW5 I didn't really like him, too obsessed with Guan Yu :asia:
Until there he was certainly on the positive side of things.
He was obsessed with Guan Yu in DW5 because he was a treat to Cao Cao (quoting the former). Too bad his story mode ended at Fan Castle, I could see him making an hypothetical appearence at Wu Zhang. On the plus side Xiahou Dun's Fan Castle is a 5* battle for Chaos Mode.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:46 pm
He was obsessed with Guan Yu in DW5 because he was a treat to Cao Cao (quoting the former). Too bad his story mode ended at Fan Castle, I could see him making an hypothetical appearence at Wu Zhang.
Didn't that thing happen in DW6? It's been ages since I've played it, but I swear there were scenarios with Guan Yu at Wuzhang Plains.

Just like in DW2 you had Guan Yu at Yiling... even though his death at Fan Castle was the reason Yiling battle started lol

Old DW (and SW games) didn't really care much about history I guess :asia: but that was part of the charm, after all they're video games not history books :toyo:
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:55 pm
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:46 pm
He was obsessed with Guan Yu in DW5 because he was a treat to Cao Cao (quoting the former). Too bad his story mode ended at Fan Castle, I could see him making an hypothetical appearence at Wu Zhang.
Didn't that thing happen in DW6? It's been ages since I've played it, but I swear there were scenarios with Guan Yu at Wuzhang Plains.

Just like in DW2 you had Guan Yu at Yiling... even though his death at Fan Castle was the reason Yiling battle started lol

Old DW (and SW games) didn't really care much about history I guess :asia: but that was part of the charm, after all they're video games not history books :toyo:
Pretty much Fuuma.

Old Dynasty Warriors (pre-DW7) were divided like this:

Free Mode/Legend Mode: Historical
Musou Mode: Fictional

Yi Ling on DW2/3 served as a final battle for both Wu or Shu, not so much as revenge for Guan Yu's death. Whoever won that battle basically gained the later's kingdom. DW4 replaced Yi Ling (as a final battle) for Cheng Du/Jian Ye and DW5 replaced Yi Ling for Baidi Castle.

Dynasty Warriors 5 was probably the most historical of the pre-DW7 series. You did not saw characters like Guan Yu making an appearance at Wu Zhang Plains for example.
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It's still a flimsy argument for making him so one dimensional :P
They at least gave him justification, but he was still boring as a result of it :mellow:


Also I dunno if I agree when it comes to SW. SW1 certainly had it's share of inaccuracies due to it's limited roster, and the hypothetical scenarios setting up many non-historial routes, but they certainly cared about history with quite a few of the small touches included in that game through it's missions and some NPC dialogues and such.

DW4 was similar in that respect, which was the same generation as SW1. Although perhaps in it's case it's faithfulness to the novel rather than history, I amn't quite sure as I get some aspects mixed up between the two. DW5 certainly more historically accurate than 4 though, since again 4 had a bunch of hypothetical scenarios, some of which based on actual events, but usually substantially different.


Also you mean the final battle for Wu vs Shu was Yi Ling in DW2/3, right?
If you mean final battle in general you'd be wrong, as Yi Ling was before He Fei Castle for Wu and Wu Zhang Plains for Shu in both DW2 and DW3. Or I suppose it was just He Fei for Wu in DW2, as they combined He Fei Castle with the regular He Fei and threw it on the end of their campaign.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:47 pm
Also you mean the final battle for Wu vs Shu was Yi Ling in DW2/3, right?
If you mean final battle in general you'd be wrong, as Yi Ling was before He Fei Castle for Wu and Wu Zhang Plains for Shu in both DW2 and DW3. Or I suppose it was just He Fei for Wu in DW2, as they combined He Fei Castle with the regular He Fei and threw it on the end of their campaign.
Yes, sir.

In DW2/3, Yi Ling was the only place were Shu and Wu clashed, (excluding Fan Castle of course, which was a really small battle in DW3) so it had to be the final battle by definition.

I agree, in therms of organization DW4 and SW1 were very similiar. I wouldn't qualify DW4 as being too historical as well. It was too stuck to the novel, it had a bunch of hypothetical battles and Sun Jian, Liu Bei and Cao Cao appeared constantly as commanders.

DW5 was the most historical. DW5:XL on the other hand was more novel like. Zhang Lu appears as a tyrant when he was a skilled ruler historically, Sun Jian conquers Chang Sha from Ou Xing, etc. etc.
Edited by JMSA, Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:15 pm.
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