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The Last Game
Topic Started: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:06 am (1,364,555 Views)
Fūma
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Damn

Good luck if you're still going to try :honda:
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Sanada
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You might be playing a bit too aggressively if ki is always an issue, or perhaps relying on blocks too much (since blocking slows your Ki regen) or something like that. :asia:

The health part is just going to happen til you get the hang of your chosen approach, but ki should be manageable :mellow:
I chose Kato as a spirit specifically for his total Ki and ki regen effects to help with that personally :ph43r:

What weapon you using anyway? And got any Jutsu or anything (Ninja or Omoyo)?
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Yea, I'm using Kato ... activating him didn't seem to help enough, she grabbed me and sucked my life while it was active, wasting it :mellow:

I'm trying not to be aggressive, trying to play passively/defensively :mellow: I usually play the Low Stance Dual Swords, wait for an opportunity to attack, then dive in and get off 2-3 attacks before Ki Pulsing + dodging to recover Ki.

That only works against everyone else so far, not Hino Enma. She hits back too fast for that strategy, and I don't do enough damage and end up running out of health.

For her, I decided to switch it up since the Dual Swords wasn't working, and started using the Normal Stance Spear moveset, trying to keep her at a bit of a distance. Get off 1-2 attacks before Ki Pulsing/dodging, used the paralysis resistance items/talismans to recover faster from her attacks ... spend most of the time running/dodging, but she always finds a way to hit me and I run out of Elixirs. Its been my most successful strategy thus far, but she still kills me every time <_<

I literally have burned through my entire supply of Elixirs from the Storehouse twice because of her. End up having to grind out levels over and over again to recover again. I've also used up pretty much every unique item I've had trying to find anything that works <_<

This b**** has my number and she's phoning in an ass-whipping every time :kurokan:
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Mid spear was my brother's method, he just beat her last night. Just stab her once or twice then back off in openings, like you're saying you try, so it certainly can work :lol: Just need to get it down :ph43r: He'd beaten her in the beta before though, but he did 1 try her there thanks to that experience, and he's not the type of guy who plays hard games too much himself.

What's your Spirit stat at? It's either 6 or 7 you'd want to get that bonus Ki and Ki recovery. I've still only used Living Weapon 20 times while about to finish the 2nd Region in NG+ :lol: So using it was not what I was getting at, although it's certainly handy to mitigate a bit of damage, while dishing out some decent damage too. My brother use it, and the triangle + circle thing when already in living weapon did seem to do a number on her.
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I never even made it to her in the Beta :mellow:

I'm at Level 27, my stats are:
  • Body 8
  • Heart 9
  • Stamina 9
  • Strength 9
  • Skill 9
  • Dexterity 8
  • Magic 8
  • Spirit 9
Not sure what the Living Weapon thing is though ...
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Sanada
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If you go to change Guardian Spirit it'll show you the buffs they give you, 9 should be enough for the 2 Ki things, maybe even the melee Ki reduction when critical health.

So with 8 magic and 8 dex, what sort of things you unlocked in the Ninja and Omoyo trees? The Sloth talismans in Omoyo for instance are great against her, or the Makabishi in the ninja tree assuming you can lure her over them (both slow her movement and attack speed). The lightning buff, if you hit enough to apply it, can also slow her movement and attack speed, and since she's so quick those are always nice to do :P
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What's your armor equipment Honda? Maybe you should go for a light-weight build if Ki is problem. Defense would be lower but you could avoid being hit a lot easier which is probably the key thing in your case, as you don't run out of Ki so easily
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I'm using the Sanada armor, which is a pretty good balance of lighter weight but decent defense. It's not the lightest, nor is it the most defensive, but it gave me the best setup from the start as a pre-order bonus :P

I'm pretty sure the equipment isn't the problem, it's the user :asia:
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Fūma
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Maybe some laster could help you out in co-op since there's free online co-op from wednesday 'till sunday this week :asia:
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Maybe :asia:

We'll see what my work schedule is like this week :asia:
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Simple Get Gud :ph43r: :ph43r:
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Indeed :asia:
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Lord Shingen
Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:46 am
:honda: :honda:
You're back :ph43r:

Takeda clan is nothing without ya :beard:
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KOEI TECMO Are happy with the succses

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Sanada
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Come to think of it, didn't you co-op Hino-Enma with LDW yourself, Fuuma? :asia:
First time that is, you said you beat her in Twilight since then :lol:



Also if I'm right the Sanada armour (like all 'DLC' stuff) is like level 5 or 6, you probably have some at least level 8-12 armour as well, where even light armour may give you better defence. (Not sure if Sanada is light or medium, but certainly not heavy so the point stands)
Might be worth checking if you have properly better :mellow:

Coincidentally, the spear you're using, did the you get the special spear you can get by dropping off the side of a cliff onto a perilous little ledge (fall off behind the Yoki at the top of the cliff if you go back up)
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Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:33 pm
Come to think of it, didn't you co-op Hino-Enma with LDW yourself, Fuuma? :asia:
First time that is, you said you beat her in Twilight since then :lol:
Yeah that's right :asia:

I wanted to beat her solo and the game offered a Twilight mission for that stage so I took that opportunity :asia: Really challenging boss, but it feels very rewarding when you win.

I don't think I'm gonna try to win that Muneshige... I set sail to Chugoku already anyway. I don't like how they spell Mouri clan as Mohri, though :garcia: It should be either Mouri or Mōri :mori:
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never going to understand them
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