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Topic Started: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:49 am (8,863 Views)
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This chapter was great.
Mugiwara's teaming up to take down a 'Pacifista'...reminds me of something *coughOZcough*.
Oh yeah, Apoo got owned :(
Damn you Kizaru.
Ayway how do you think the Mugiwara's are going to last 3 days when Kizaru took down 4 supernova's in a matter of seconds?
My guess is that Rayleigh will fend him off.
The only problem I have with this chapter is that Brook would have got owned if Usopp didn't save him and that Franky did get owned.
I think Oda needs to spread some light on other member's of the crew apart from the 'Monster Trio'
Sanji,Zoro and Luffy are always the last one's to get the last hit in when the crew is fighting as a team.I think Franky deserves some spotlight as back in 'Water 7'
he took on 'base' Luffy.
Brook just seems like he was dumped in the crew for Laboon's sake.I mean all he did in 'Thriller Bark' was take out Talaran and had his ass saved by Zoro and Franky(Who did jack all against Ryuuma)..
Well at least were only half way through the story.I want to see Brook,Franky and Chopper evolve in the up coming arc's.

And see some Apoo kicking a$$ B)
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From a personal view, Kizaru makes Aokiji look like a kid's power compared to him, but maybe that's because Kizaru has more spotlight so far than Aokiji.
I'm sorry, but I'm safely betting Rayleigh won't be fighting, at least not when he's finished coating the Thousand Sunny.

In the later arcs I do hope to see a development with the other StrawHat members.
Chopper needs to find a way to control Monster Point, Nami needs new weapons + train physically, Robin needs to cooperate more with the crew, Ussop needs improving too.
Franky can hopefully get an upgrade from one of the mechanics, and for Brook... he really showed his usefulness only when he fended off the spider back in Thriller Bark, but that's an one moment thing and later gets owned by Ryuma.
The crew's major problem is the increasing burden of some of the incapable members, such as Ussop and Brook.
Ussop has the Sogeking form now... but big deal, the most he can do is serve as a distraction for a short while against a boss, and Brook, we all know how useless his fruit is, I guess he can at least act as a human shield.

Easy for Franky to get an upgrade, since he's an Cyborg, and they're made to be upgraded.
As for Chopper, needs toughening up mentally and be able to control Monster Point, then he'll be pretty powerful, wonder what happen if he consumes four golden rumbles in a row.
I'm also worried about Sanji's weakness, the inability to hit females, which resulted in his loss to Kalifa... Zoro still needs recovery, I'm guessing he'll be around 50-70% stamina at maximum for the next few chapters.

Meanwhile... I pray someone could take down Kizaru, he's becoming annoying.
And I wonder how Kid and Law are going with their battles.
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And I wonder how Kid and Law are going with their battles.

True, those two look interesting. Especially Law, I'm curious what'll happen if he meets Buggy, must be awkward..

And I just read ch.512....

.....

I think, I'm going to be in Emo mood for the next uncountable weeks because of what happened in Ch.512.

After Ace, now him. But it's like, impossible if that guy is vanished. He's one important character (and really popular as well).. But the story is getting much more serious and it's not impossible for a character to be vanished. Gah but really, It'd decrease my love for One Piece in extremely big amount if he ever die or vanish.

On the other note, seems like Rayleigh is extremely powerful for successfully managed to hurt Kizaru. But then, Kuma is seriously powerful also. One pacifista is bad, another one plus one real thing? Seriously bad.



..I'm dying to see the next chapter.. Ugh..
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And I wonder how Kid and Law are going with their battles.

True, those two look interesting. Especially Law, I'm curious what'll happen if he meets Buggy, must be awkward..

And I just read ch.512....

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I think, I'm going to be in Emo mood for the next uncountable weeks because of what happened in Ch.512.

After Ace, now him. But it's like, impossible if that guy is vanished. He's one important character (and really popular as well).. But the story is getting much more serious and it's not impossible for a character to be vanished. Gah but really, It'd decrease my love for One Piece in extremely big amount if he ever die or vanish.

On the other note, seems like Rayleigh is extremely powerful for successfully managed to hurt Kizaru. But then, Kuma is seriously powerful also. One pacifista is bad, another one plus one real thing? Seriously bad.



..I'm dying to see the next chapter.. Ugh..

*in Chopper's accent*
ZOOOOOORRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This chapter was intense and sad at the same time to the maximum (if you know what I mean).
Seriously, at this rate, Rayleigh won't be able to hold ALL of them by himself, I won't be surprised at all if he gets injured somehow next chapter trying to fight and protect at the same time.
Kizaru + Kuma, two big guns gaining up on a single old man, that's unfair.
I'm glad Chopper activated Monster Point, he's going to need it badly, and why is Brook so weak (he was much stronger against the spider dude back in Thriller Bark).
I've never seen StrawHat get pooned so much in one single chapter, it was like their totally useless.
Usually when one of the comrades are about to die, Luffy would explode, but this time, he just stood there screaming useless. I felt sorry for the crew in this chapter.
Also keeping in mind that NOBODY has died in the series yet (at least no main).
Whitebeard or Shanks might appear if my dream plan goes well. =P
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ZOOOOOORRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This chapter was intense and sad at the same time to the maximum (if you know what I mean).
Seriously, at this rate, Rayleigh won't be able to hold ALL of them by himself, I won't be surprised at all if he gets injured somehow next chapter trying to fight and protect at the same time.
Kizaru + Kuma, two big guns gaining up on a single old man, that's unfair.
I'm glad Chopper activated Monster Point, he's going to need it badly, and why is Brook so weak (he was much stronger against the spider dude back in Thriller Bark).
I've never seen StrawHat get pooned so much in one single chapter, it was like their totally useless.
Usually when one of the comrades are about to die, Luffy would explode, but this time, he just stood there screaming useless. I felt sorry for the crew in this chapter.
Also keeping in mind that NOBODY has died in the series yet (at least no main).
Whitebeard or Shanks might appear if my dream plan goes well. =P

Don't forget the axe man Vegapunk's assistant whoever his name. He's terribly strong too, for managed to attack Luffy like that.

Very true, no matter if he's Roger's assistant or something, but fighting Kizaru is already hard, but Kizaru is also an old man.

It is true that Chopper needs the Monster Point now, but he can unconsciously attack the crew also.

Ehh yeah.. The Mugiwara doesn't look as strong as usual, they even need to gang up on attacking ONE pacifista. Never seen Luffy so desperate like that.

(Actually, deaths only happen in flashback or only when the Villains kill random not-so-important characters. Isn't it?)

LOL, I actually been thinking what if Blackbeard suddenly come :mellow: Hey, he was in Enies Lobby right? He doesn't need to wait until Ace got executed....
(And make it worse with Smoker (Damn right, where is he..? T_T Too bad he's a marine, I like that guy.))
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Don't forget the axe man Vegapunk's assistant whoever his name. He's terribly strong too, for managed to attack Luffy like that.

Very true, no matter if he's Roger's assistant or something, but fighting Kizaru is already hard, but Kizaru is also an old man.

It is true that Chopper needs the Monster Point now, but he can unconsciously attack the crew also.

Ehh yeah.. The Mugiwara doesn't look as strong as usual, they even need to gang up on attacking ONE pacifista. Never seen Luffy so desperate like that.

(Actually, deaths only happen in flashback or only when the Villains kill random not-so-important characters. Isn't it?)

LOL, I actually been thinking what if Blackbeard suddenly come :mellow: Hey, he was in Enies Lobby right? He doesn't need to wait until Ace got executed....
(And make it worse with Smoker (Damn right, where is he..? T_T Too bad he's a marine, I like that guy.))

He's not "terribly" strong, I am unsure what's his rank among the marines (a Captain he mentioned).
Definitely not an Admiral given that there can only be three, so most likely as strong as a Vice Admiral.
I'm very positive Luffy in perfect form can take him down, he was just so worn out by consecutive uses of Gear Second and Gear Third not long ago, that's why he got owned.

Yeah, even if Rayleigh is Roger's first mate (I guess the second strongest in the crew), he can't be strong enough to take on one Admiral + one Shichibukai.
For my logic, 1 Yonkou = 1 Admiral + 1 Shichibukai, but Rayleigh is a bit weaker than the emperors, so I have a strong feeling he'll struggle if he continues to protect and fight at the same time.
On a side note, it seems like all the strong dudes like to use swords... Zoro, Shanks, Rayleigh, Mihawk.

Chopper went straight to Monster Point... I don't even remember him taking his third Rumble.
Anyways, he should've just went to Arm Point and hit a Celestial Cross or two before he jump that far.
No one has been able to stop Monster Point without making him shrink in the natural sea so this could really test out an Admiral + Shichibukai capabilities. =D

(Yes, death happens very rarely and only to those minor characters, however the major characters do tend to get disabled, as Shanks losing his arm.)

I don't think Blackbeard will appear, he was not mentioned in this arc I don't think.
Whitebeard is likely, since he is said to be approaching near the place in order to get to Ace (which I hope he saves him soon because the oily paper doesn't lie =[...).

Anyways, Straw Hat Pirates desperately needs Logia users...
Ok, they have 3 Paramecia users (Brook's one is already useless), and one Zoan.
They're going to struggle if the only thing keeping the crew alive in terms of combat is the Monster Trio. Although it would be a great boost if Chopper could actually MASTER the Monster Point form.
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Sentoumaru is 'captain of the science unit' and 'Vegapunks personal body gaurd' If I remember correctly.
My guess is Sentoumaru is gunna be pretty powerful as I doubt the WG would let him be the world's most valued scientists' Gaurd for no big reason.

My guess is thst Kuma either sent Zoro to 'Impel Down' or Dragon's revolutionary base.
I wouldn't be suprised if Kuma is a spy for Dragon as he presumably showed Zoro mercy in TB and seems to know Dragon.
If Kuma has sent Zoro to impel down it could be possible for the Mugiwara's to save by going through 'Gyojin island' as 'Impel Down' is also under the sea.

During that time they may be able to save the Supernova's that got owned by Kizaru.
Anyway I don't see the Mugiwara's getting out of this one without any help.My guess is either Law,Kidd or Garp will save them.
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Your two guesses for Zoro's current location is interesting, it would mean that Kuma is really bad or he's actually a good spy acting as a spy for the pirates.
I've noted how Kuma is known for his loyalty to the World Government and how he is the most loyal Shichibukai out of the seven, so it's not just rumours for nothing.
Impel Down wouldn't effect Zoro much anyways, as he is not a devil fruit user, unless the third Admiral is guarding the place, he'll probably break free with Ace. =]
Without any assistance, there's no way Mugiwara Kaizoku can get of out this one in One Piece, unless one/few of the crew members activates their "new" powers (which I doubt it).
On a complete side note, I still can't get over how Shanks lost his arm to a mere Sea King when it seems so signifcant at this stage of the series where it's just treated as Luffy's meals.
Shanks could've just smashed the Sea King away instead of covering up Luffy's body and let the monster freely take his arm. But oh wells, the past is the past.
Note how Shanks is also not a fruit user, meaning he could easily break into Impel Down at will.
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Okay dudes, new chapter tomorrow.

I hope to see some more of Momonga ("One is not the same as None" is a great phrase).
Hopefully the dude won't be fodder for Hancock or Luffy.I mean, you don't get the rank of VA fpr nothing.I also dig his design and hopefully Oda will develop him.

Hancock also seems interesting.I'm looking foward to find out why she 'hates' the male species so much.
I've been browsing round some forums and people speculate she's Luffy's mum..weird as this may sound,I actually think it's believable.
Lets see shall we.

1. Kuma appears to have a interest in Ace being Luffy's brother,and tells Moria he has doubts about BB joining the Shichibukai
2. Kuma spairs everybody at TB, even though he was ordered to eliminate everyone.
3 .He apparantly showed Zoro mercy
4. He somehow knows Dragon
5. He appears when the Mugiwara's are on the brink of death
6. He whispers something to Rayleigh
7. He sends Luffy to an Island where people know how to use 'Haki' and is ruled by a fellow Shichibukai.

My guess is that Dragon doesn't think that Luffy's ready for the NW and ordered Kuma to send him to a place where he can train.Kuma, knowing that Luffy's worn-out, probably sent him to a place where he feels Luffy will be safe.
So why the home to a ferocious Shichibukai and an island of men hating women?

Well,I'm totally against Hancock being Luffy's mum, and this theory only is realistic if you believe Kuma's a double agent for Dragon.

I also glanced at the spoilers.........which you'll find out why I beleve Hancock and Kuma 'know' each other.
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Well,I'm totally against Hancock being Luffy's mum.

I still can't decide wether to support or against this theory..
1) Hancock appears to detest men so much (Based from what the Amazon Lily citizens said.), why would a woman who hates men that much to marry a men? Except IF, that hatred was caused because she was betrayed by a man.
2) She is a shichibukai dammit, she's strong (Medusa power?) and doesn't look normal (by personality AND appearance). I'm still wondering if she really is a Villain or not. Did Luffy ever hit woman? I forgot. I can only remember that Sanji & Zoro won't hit women.
3) Explains the reason why Kuma sends Luffy to Amazon Lily, I think?

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and this theory only is realistic if you believe Kuma's a double agent for Dragon.

I can't help but to agree about this. I think your theories are just believable.

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Note how Shanks is also not a fruit user, meaning he could easily break into Impel Down at will.

Which is why Shanks is simply awesome. I love it when there's a character who is strong and NOT because he/she has a devil fruit..


I get this bad feeling that Margaret will join them >_> BAH. If she can prove that she is good enough, I'd think better about her..
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Btw, any theories about the other crews' place? I wish Sanji's place is related to Zeff or his past (remember that Sanji was from North Blue?) Same goes to Usopp (his dad~).
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[super spoilers] I'm behind in terms of chapter discussion, but I'll just keep to the latest one.
I've been laughing so hard with the recent chapters even since Luffy crash landed.
All the permanent mushroom and balls of gold was just hilarous, I can't believe Magaret fell for Luffy, she has no knowledge of men whatsoever and Sanji would take advantange of that if she joined the crew.
I actually don't want her to be part of Straw Hats, I want to see someone a lot stronger, maybe even surpassing one of the monster trio, maybe a logia user.
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I can only remember that Sanji & Zoro won't hit women.

Zoro won't do cheap shots and Sanji won't hit women, Luffy can do both freely.
Talking about Sanji, Boa Hancock is definitely the worst case Shichibukai for him, there's no way Sanji can last more than few seconds against her, will probably get petrified on first sight.
That's one less monster trio already when fighting against a Shichibukai, seriously the crew needs some recruit that's solely there for the purpose of fighting, Zoro is not enough.
I don't really like her since her personality and attitude is really bad, it doesn't fit her body one bit.
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Well,I'm totally against Hancock being Luffy's mum.

I'm actually for this theory, when Luffy crashed into the bath room, he saw her naked (LOL!) and said that he's seen it before (LOL!). It's either She really gave birth to Luffy and he remembers his childhood, or it's highly possible Luffy saw the pair of eyes elsewhere when Garp threw him in all the different places.
Luffy is really smart, dumb logic leads him to the leader straight away, Sanji's going to get so jealous when Luffy saw "The most beautiful woman" in the world without Absalom's invisible fruit.
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Which is why Shanks is simply awesome. I love it when there's a character who is strong and NOT because he/she has a devil fruit..

Sigh, too bad his lost his dominate arm, no way he can be fighting at full strength now, it's sad to see.
I'm also hanging on my theory for the Mizu Mizu no Mi (Water Water Fruit), with that you're practically invincible, you're a devil fruit user who can control your weakness.
Anyways, the manga is going smoothly, expanding the plot really well, just excellent.
I'm curious also to find out where the others are, most likely acquring new knowledge and new abilities also, but it'll be hard to get them back together unless the double agent Kuma as you say personally push them back in one piece (no pun intended).
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The whole reason why I was against Hancock being Luffy's mother was that he saw her naked!
But if it turns out to be true, That was a cruel joke by Oda :lol:

Overall it was a good Chapter.But i'm starting to really dislike Hancock, although she was really cute with the "But i'm scared" line :wub:
Good to know how the sisters got thier powers,but something's telling me this whole 'Defeated the Gorgon and cursed us' thing is a lie.
1. Luffy didn't turn to stone
2. Oda stated in a 'SBS' that their will be no magic.The only magic things will be Devil Fruits.
I'm sure we'll find out some things next chapter.

Browsing through some forums, people are speculating what Hancock may have on her back.
-Whitebeard pirates tatoo (interesting)
-Dragon's tatoo
-Skypeian wings
-Eye's

Anyway I'm gunna order Unlimited Cruise this week, purely for playing as Kuma :D
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I sense the most painful period of One Piece will soon come.
The manga is really trying to stall things now, not much has been happening with the last few chapters all focusing on the Kuja pirates and Luffy not progressing anywhere.
I feel sorry for him, it's unfair he has to use his raw strength to face people who naturally use Haki, if he somehow learns Haki throughout his time here then that would only be part of his problem solved. Getting out of the Amazon Lily island is a major problem.
I have no idea where the other crew members are, or how they're doing.
I'll be most unlikely, but I think Kuma has defected, seeing how he told Luffy it was the last time they ever meet again before he sent him off, it sounded like he's going to turn against Kizaru and help Rayleigh.
The crew wouldn't have so much trouble damaging a Pacifista if they'll learned some form of Haki.
I really hope to see some progress next few weeks, the training/reunion of the crew is what I care about, not the stalling of long fights on just one character.
Side note: The war with Whitebeard would be just as interesting, seeing the highest level of combat we've never experienced before. /hehe
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Well,This week just totally draged <_<
I really hate week's with no One Piece....so boring.....

Anyway,Thank god we've got a chapter this week and it appears asthough it's going to focus on Luffy v.s Sandersonia+Marigold.
I gotta say,at first I was a bit freaked out by Sandersonia's appearance but as soon as she turned into her 'Cursed' form,I just looked at her as another one of Oda's genious design's.
As the serie's has progressed,Oda is really experimenting with character design's.Kaku the 'Sqaure Girrafe' was brilliant,Then we had the awesomeness of Moria's appearance,Then we get Scratchmen Apoo,with 3 joint's in his arm's and a weird chin.I'm really proud of Oda for taking such risk's with his character's.
I remember when everyone was bashing Moria for his abstract appearance but people grew to love him.
I still believe he's from the 'Snakeneck' tribe and I hope we see him in the WB war.

I'm also looking foward to seeing Marco in action,He's a division above Ace,He must have some talent.....if the division's rank in power order.....
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New chapter's (finally!) out and OHEMGEE LUFFY


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LOL Shizu-chan, there are so few of us One Piece fans here it makes the spoiler tags completely unnecessary.
How come you’re dying to know Hancock’s past? All I know is that she is one of the Shichibukai and is the most beautiful woman in the world (second only to Mermaids). That’s all for I care really. =P
My speculation was correct; Oda is spending too much time on one character. As much as I like to see Luffy in action, not having knowledge of the rest of the world plus the remaining of his crew is just absurd.
Margaret really looks like a candidate to become one of the Straw Hats now, Luffy seem to care so much for her.
If he’s going to learn how to use Haki properly, then most likely she’ll be the one to teach him.
I learned from this chapter that Haki also increases defense, which means it’ll at least put less strain on Luffy’s body when he uses his gears.
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Just read the chapter.It was pretty decent.
Interesting that Luffy has 'Haoushoku Haki' and is one of the chosen one's.But chosen for what?
My guess is that 'One Piece' is actually the kingdom that got destroyed in the 'void century' by the WG.Perhaps eveyone with the 'Will of D.' are decendents of that kingdom and perhap's being the 'Pirate King' is really being the king of that country......Just speculation though.

I also think the reason why Sentoumaru was able to hurt Luffy is because of 'Haki'.
If you notice,everytime someone uses Haki,Oda alway's draws a shot of their eye.

Anyway,It was a decent chapter and we know that the sister's really don't have a curse.

Lol I just had a thought about Hankcock being Luffy's mum.It was stated that Glorosia(spelling?) left the island to go to sea,Perhap's during that time she met Rodger.
Rodger and her had a baby who turned out to be Hancock.Then year's later Hancock,who was on her journey supposedly to kill the Gorgon Monster,Met Dragon and had Luffy.
This could be possible as Rodger probably had this 'Haoushoku Haki' thus passing on the ability through generation's.If you look at the last panel,Luffy kinda resembles Rodger.....but the again this is just speculation.
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Even though it's -sadly- only a few, but there should be few people who read this topic eh? And beside, I always like spoiler tag 8D

Her past=Might be related to Luffy (<supporter of Hancock as Luffy's mom, ehe) yeah, other than that, I don't like her character (despite the fact that I laughed every time she shows up..)

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My speculation was correct; Oda is spending too much time on one character. As much as I like to see Luffy in action, not having knowledge of the rest of the world plus the remaining of his crew is just absurd.

LOL isn't it? He did it every single time (Battles/Past/you name it) Even though (other than Luffy, i think) each duel never been more than 10 chapters (Which is a good thing)
Grah, I wonder about Zoro. He had serious injuries here & there and then got transferred, flying on sky for 3 days is the worst..

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Margaret really looks like a candidate to become one of the Straw Hats now, Luffy seem to care so much for her.

As much as I hate to see it, your opinion seems to be true..

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My guess is that 'One Piece' is actually the kingdom that got destroyed in the 'void century' by the WG.Perhaps eveyone with the 'Will of D.' are decendents of that kingdom

Interesting speculation you have there o_o Addition;
People with the 'Will of D.' are actually the real founder of the 'World'.
I hope Oda'd explain more about the founder of the World (what's the name..) later on.
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I'm also wondering where the other Mugiwara's are.
Zoro had serious injuries and was on the verge of death when Kizaru arrived.I hope he got transported' to the same place as Sanji,That'd be pretty hilarious seeing them two work together.

I also hope that one of the Mugiwara's got 'trasported' to Smoker,After all he did have a message for them (Aokiji was going to tell them but thought it was too stupid),I'm really interested to see what this message is.

I don't think any of them will be part of the cover story,My guess for the next candidate would be Perona,And of course, there's also spculation as to where 'PX1' was 'transported'....dunno if Oda want's to expand on him though.

If Kuma sent the Mugiwara's to places that they could improve thier skill's (E.g. Luffy being sent to Amazon Lily,a place where people rely on 'Haki')
It's be interesting to see where the other Mugiwara's would end up.

IMO,Sanji need's some more development,like long range attacks.At the moment Oda is working on the cover story about the CP9 venturing to thier 'homeland'.A palce where they trained and probably learnt 'Rokushiki'.It'd be pretty awesome if Sanji got sent their and learn't some 'Rokushiki' stlye move's.

Anyway,Tonight is spoiler night :shifty:
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Chapter 520
Very interesting chapter, despite the usage of Haki, the sisters weren’t able to keep up with Luffy’s Gear Second. Or maybe it’s just that Luffy was using it all along but didn’t notice it.
Either way, by the looks of things towards the end, it almost seemed like a Shichibukai just got touched in the heart. What now? Kuja pirates teach him how to use Haki and lend him a boat and he’ll be on his way out of here with Margaret? /hehe

Oh man, still nothing on the other Mugiwara, it’s been way too long.
Here’s a three of the guys who I think needs improvement, the others I have no idea.
Zoro – Needs some sword technique which can damage the Pacifista, his signature move: Lion’s Song (which can melt steel) was close to useless up against Kuma.
Most likely after he has his injuries healed and some new techniques, he’ll be somewhere close to Mihawk in terms fighting strength?
Sanji – Toughen up, having the guts to hit women. If it wasn’t for that crazy thing about women, he would’ve never lost to Kalifa. And now he’ll be completely useless up against Hancock and be one of the first ones to turn to stone.
Chopper – Being able to control Monster Point. I think as the story progressed, more hints are revealed about these gigantic Zoan forms, Sentomaru knew what kind of form Chopper was in. If Chopper had control of this form, things would looks pretty good.
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Wow, the chapter came out really fast.

As expected, Luffy won the battle >_> (Woah, really.. when Luffy said 'I'm on my full power now' that means he'll win next chapter x3 lol, what kind of theory is that)

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Either way, by the looks of things towards the end, it almost seemed like a Shichibukai just got touched in the heart. What now? Kuja pirates teach him how to use Haki and lend him a boat and he’ll be on his way out of here with Margaret? /hehe

I actually thought about this when saw Hancock cries : "Mother's tears because she realized she just met her son!"
But I think It was too fast to speculate something like that.... Or not?

Oh well, I wish things can move faster..

More thoughts on the other Mugiwara..
Nami ; Need more physical power up, her weapon is already strong enough, though it won't be bad if she adds more accessories on her weapon. She just need to be stronger so that her defense won't fall easily.
Robin ; Same as Nami, her fruit power'd be much more useful if she has more physical power.
(At least both of them aren't as useless as Vivi..>_> )
Franky needs stronger weapon, Brook & Usopp need to toughen up (Really, that's all they need.. To be brave.. They already have the ability.)

And we need Smoker & Tashigi T_T Miss them so much.
(And what the.. When I was typing that^ I came to a crazy speculation that Zoro was sent to Smoker.. Erh..)
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Just finished the chapter,a great fight.

But to be honest i'm glad the fighting is over,we'll most likely get some coverage on the sister's next chapter wich could be interesting.
Well, Luffy won in the end(no suprise.....).

The whole hair-controling thing reminded me of Kumadori,same when Mary set herself alight (as Kumadori set his staff alight) and is Boa crying because of Luffy's noble action's?weird..........

Anyway Iv'e been thinking about the whole 'Haki' thing.There appears to be different types of 'Haki'.Sonia's seem's to be able to predict Luffy's move's kinda like Enel's 'Mantra' and Mary's seem's to be able to negate the effect of DF's and give her a strong defense...kinda like Sentoumaru.Luffy's is similar to that of Shanks's (causing people to faint)...it also seem's asthough it's similar to Rayleigh's,BUT Rayleigh also was able to hurt a 'logia' similar to that of Mary's......Haki will no doubt play an important part in the next half of One Piece.

Also,Remember back on 'Shabondy Archipelago' where it appeared as though Basil Hawkin's could read the future through his card's?A couple of chapter's ago Glorosia (spelling?) appeared to have the ability to read the future through her 'crystal ball'....It appear's this may be another different type of 'Haki' that allows you to read the future through item's or could be the 'Mantra haki'

Well I enjoyed Luffy's victory pose...lol, and 'Jet Gatling' was awesome.
Thank's Oda for another great chapter...looking foward to next week

Edit:Here's the popularity poll.

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I'm struggling to see who the character is under Croc though......any help?
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I actually thought about this when saw Hancock cries : "Mother's tears because she realized she just met her son!"
But I think It was too fast to speculate something like that.... Or not?

LOL! It’s way too crazy at this point. So what if Hancock’s Luffy’s mother? Boa D. Hancock? (=P)
Doesn’t matter now really, Luffy will be taught how to control and the basis of Haki, otherwise this whole Kuja arc would’ve gone to waste. I would be very pissed if the tears turn out to be fake ones, and Hancock attempts to attack Luffy while he’s in that state.

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Nami ; Need more physical power up, her weapon is already strong enough, though it won't be bad if she adds more accessories on her weapon. She just need to be stronger so that her defense won't fall easily.
Robin ; Same as Nami, her fruit power'd be much more useful if she has more physical power.
(At least both of them aren't as useless as Vivi..>_> )

Agree agreed! They’re girls I know, but that’s no excuse to remain weak as a soldier zombie (maybe even weaker). They would be so much better off if they had similar level of power to/close to Kalifa.
I still have no idea why Robin’s bounty’s so high, she needs a swap with Franky, they gotta know that it was Aokiji who saved her, and she did NOT escape.

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Brook & Usopp need to toughen up (Really, that's all they need.. To be brave.. They already have the ability.)

The most unreliable ones in the group really, a musician and a sniper (except I give Usopp credit for being Yasopp’s son who’s one Shank’s crew members). I wonder whose better, Yasopp or Van Auger.
Usopp being able to suppress Perona was really hilarious back in Thriller Bark: “I’m already negative!” (LOL)
Anyways, I always look at Brook as the inferior Zoro, he has a good relationship with Laboon so… I can live with that. (Damn, how did he get top 10 in popularity?!)

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And we need Smoker & Tashigi T_T Miss them so much.
(And what the.. When I was typing that^ I came to a crazy speculation that Zoro was sent to Smoker.. Erh..)

Not bad at all, I always believed in the Zoro x Tashigi ending, and it was Zoro who saved Smoker anyways.
I don’t see how Zoro can learn anything from Smoker’s group though, unless he reveals to Zoro the secret behind the substance so Tashigi can properly teach him how to cut those PX Models.

Manta Punk – Excellent analysis of different forms of Haki, I agree with most of them anyways.
Luffy & Hancock has the highest and strongest form, that’s all for I care.
No doubt Shanks and Rayleigh both have a very powerful form too; being able to damage Whitebeard’s boat like it was a invisible wave and also cut Logia users.

By the way, the guy below Crocodile was Kuro, how the hell did he end up there?! (lol)

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I actually thought about this when saw Hancock cries : "Mother's tears because she realized she just met her son!"
But I think It was too fast to speculate something like that.... Or not?

LOL! It’s way too crazy at this point. So what if Hancock’s Luffy’s mother? Boa D. Hancock? (=P)
Doesn’t matter now really, Luffy will be taught how to control and the basis of Haki, otherwise this whole Kuja arc would’ve gone to waste. I would be very pissed if the tears turn out to be fake ones, and Hancock attempts to attack Luffy while he’s in that state.
Too crazy? LOL Zhen! It's One Piece we're talking about XDD
But yes, I agree about Luffy being taught to control haki, AND his haoushouku (Maybe by Hancock? It'd be a surprise if she does though.) Agree, if Hancock only fake it, it'd be a total fail and I'd hate her even more..

Usopp'd be more use if he's brave right? He's a great sniper and he didn't back down from Luffy's order when they're in Impel Down (shoot the Government flag, that's crazy and Usopp didn't complain at all.) Plus the fact that he shot the CP9's leader (What is his name..) from far away is awesome >_> Please Usopp, be brave! No waiting until the end of the series!

Brook'd be useful actually, he lived in the world 50 years ago means that maybe he knows some other information that the younger crews don't know? That if Oda decided to make more use of him. But I actually enjoy his character, if only he can be more developed.

Zoro x Tashigi ending XD I can't see it, AT ALL. I can't imagine there'd be a mushy scene in this crazy manga (except past, that's all).
Though I really want more explanation on how Tashigi and Kuina look the same and their age are even the same.. (Count it. Tashigi is 22 based on SBS if I'm not wrong, and Kuina is older than Zoro by 1-2, and Zoro is 20. If Kuina is still alive, She's at the same age as Tashigi.)
And I still think that Zoro'd be sent there, to learn more about marine's secret so that it'd be more useful for the future (But 'how' is the question. Pirate and marine=not going to work)

@Manta Punk
whoa.. So we might have passed so many haki and didn't realize.. Maybe Enel's mantra is also one of Haki's type.. And, how did Enel & the sky people inherit it? (Aisa aswell) I need to refresh my memory is there was already an explanation..
If Luffy manages to control his haoushouku and masters haki, he probably can do the same thing like Shanks (And save his brother dammit.. The next arc'd be saving Ace and meet Whitebeard and reunion with Shanks? I'm on it totally~)

Luffy's victory pose made me laugh XD What a cute little idiot..

Whoa polling!
WHAT... I'm so happy almost all of my top 6 are on top 5 XDD (But Smoker ;_; ) The fact that Law is on top 10 is really not surprising, because he's cool like that~


@ Zhen's OOT:True! XD Too long that I could spent a lot of times gaping "I could actually post this much about One Piece?!" Ahh I love it too much~
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1. Usopp'd be more use if he's brave right?
2. Plus the fact that he shot the CP9's leader (What is his name..)

1. Actually, Usopp appears to be braver than Nami. He doesn’t actually back down from anything, he only APPEARS to be afraid and saying all these noob defenses and lame “I can’t go on that island” disease excuse. Nami needs to snap out of her treasure addictives, she ditched the whole crew back in Thriller Bark while they were fighting against Odz. The only reason why I prefer Nami instead of Usopp is because Usopp had left the crew once. That was serious and the fact he acted like a jerk. I could never forgive him even he returns on that positive note.
2. Spandam, he’s only the leader by name. In terms of strength, his 1 point short of an average human being. (lol)

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Brook'd be useful actually, he lived in the world 50 years ago means that maybe he knows some other information that the younger crews don't know?

Oh noes, how could I forget that he’s like 100 years old? Yohohohohohohoho~ He’s a good joke and quite loyal actually (willing to sacrifice his life very easily for the injured Zoro).
He’s polite is some ways (excluding table manners and pervy sides). And if Laboon liked him, then we should like him too. Lol~

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1. Zoro x Tashigi ending XD I can't see it, AT ALL. I can't imagine there'd be a mushy scene in this crazy manga (except past, that's all).
2. Though I really want more explanation on how Tashigi and Kuina look the same and their age are even the same..
3. And I still think that Zoro'd be sent there, to learn more about marine's secret so that it'd be more useful for the future (But 'how' is the question. Pirate and marine=not going to work)

1. NOo =( That’s the best ending ever, I really wanna see some Zoro x Tashigi ness. =P
2. Maybe she is Kuina’s twin sister! (lol /jk) I still can’t get over how she pwned Zoro all the way while he was young but died merely because she fell off some stairs, that’s just really unbelievable to the max.
3. Personally I’d think Zoro is more the “head-on”/”physical” types than the learner types.
He’d be better off and absorb much quickly if he is taught/discovers new techniques to add to his collection than giving him directions (…) or lecturing him about the structure/secrets of the marines.

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(And save his brother dammit.. The next arc'd be saving Ace and meet Whitebeard and reunion with Shanks? I'm on it totally~)

The last time I saw that arc mentioned was when Doflamingo was on the Den Den Mushi with his underling, how he said: “Royal Shichibukai VS The Whitebeard Pirates” –Epic line.
I know Luffy and the other won’t have the right to participate in that arc (1. nowhere near strong enough to compete. 2. too scattered to bring the crew back in time for that arc to happen).
I only want to see this arc because I want to see some legendary level fights there.

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The fact that Law is on top 10 is really not surprising, because he's cool like that~

Sadly his teddy bear First Mate (?) was much cooler than him… =(
Those three (Kid/Luffy/Law) should’ve never separated at the hall, together they could’ve stood a chance against the multiple PX or maybe even stand up to Sentomaru/Kizaru (Go Killer and Teddy!)

I’m really eager to find out what happened with the rest of the crew. But Oda is so amazing to the extent that it doesn’t really matter if they show the other members next or just finish off Luffy’s part (because it’s so damn interesting as much as I like to see the others).
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