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Zhang He; General of Yuan/Wei
Topic Started: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:04 pm (3,352 Views)
Will
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no luoguan zhong novel is 70% real 30% fictional.
When Liu Bei was in Hanzhong and He heard a general died he was disappointed that it was xiahou yuan because he wanted zhang he to die. Zhuge Liang fear Zhang He and Zhang He beated Ma Su in jieting and is a good defending general
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Jandi Rose
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It was the other way around.. the commander was one of Sima Yi's sons.. Zhang He argued to not pursue, but the commander made him... He was pursuing Wei Yan and he fell upon an ambush of archers... he was hit in the right knee and died..
that is why I hate the kingdom of Shu.. all their ploys were basically surprise ambushes.. which to me are cowardly tactics...

Shu was tricked by Wu with a false letter. Shu believed the letter to be from Liu Shan, they fell back, Zhang He pursued when commaned, & that is how he died.
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MitsunariIshida
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Basically,it was a conincidence that Zhang He died by Wu's ploy and Shu's hands.
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Jandi Rose
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In a way, Yes. It is sad, though. :(
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Jandi Rose
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Hi, my name is Jandi. =D
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Now I just thought of something, Koei made Zhang He the way he is in Dynasty Warriors because of his love of poetry(which was not a common thing found among officers) and I was wondering, if Zhang He invested enough time in those artistic intretests of his, would he have become like the Zhang He in Dynasty Warriors we know at one point?

Should I be asking this question only in the Dynasty Warriors Zhang He topic, or is it alright for both topics?
Edited by Jandi Rose, Fri Jul 3, 2009 1:06 am.
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Dongzhou
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Wei had poets, Cao Cao, Pi and Zhi all like to write poems and they don't seem to have turned into a DW Zhang He. Koei are just taking a small aspect of him and creating something different

Zhang He seems quite a capable and smart second in command and I just wonder why, after Cao Zhen's death, Sima Yi was made his superior instead.
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Grace-Zed
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Zhang He love poetry but he was not like the DW Zhang He.

Sima Yi had strong leadership than the Cao family so he had absolute military control. His popularity made the Cao family afraid of him. :)
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Dongzhou
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It was Sima Yi's first major campaign as a commander and Cao Rui felt quite capable of telling him what to do during Sima Yi's second campaign so I'm not sure that is the problem.
Edited by Dongzhou, Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:02 pm.
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the red clift
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Talk about Zhang He,he is bad in the story but he is very good in dynasty warriors 6.
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Wenze
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How exactly was he "bad" in the story? Granted, he was a bit better in actual history, but he was still one of Wei's top generals even in the novel.

Also, lets keep game discussion to the game forums, please.
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Claus
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what type of weapon did zhang he favour?
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Wenze
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It isn't noted what sort of weapon Zhang He brought to battle with him, so, since the histories usually note when a general wielded a unique type of weapon, it can be assumed that he used the same type of spear/sword/halberd/etc. that everyone else did.
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Takenaka Hanbei
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Zhang He=Zhao Yun of Wei

Anyone else agree?
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SRS
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Hnnn... could you explain more what you mean?
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Zhang he is kwl and i think he could beat zhao yun in a battle so it more like

Zhang He>Zhao yun
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Dongzhou
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Think he meant Zhao Yun is Shu's equivalent to Zhang He rather then in terms of ability.

Would favour Zhao Yun over He myself, mostly for the empty city trick
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Wenze
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I'd personally go with Zhang He as Zhao Yun's superior, if not by a whole lot. The empty city trick at Hanshui was impressive, but Zhang He had more victories and gained more land than Zhao Yun did.
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Yuqi
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Apparently, in 'Theory of the three kingdoms' he was shot in the face, by Yue-Ying. Doubt it's true,but still a different tale nonetheless. Do we have any info on his wife, at all?
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Dongzhou
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We know nothing about her I'm afraid
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Rice Ball
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at first time I played Zhang He in DW5, I think he is a girl :o
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Rice Ball
Tue Oct 5, 2010 5:00 pm
at first time I played Zhang He in DW5, I think he is a girl :o
Most of us did.

Zhang He's image of DW is ridiculous for the general he was. I dare to say he was the best of the so-called Wei 5 Generals.
His victory at Jie Ting, the way he recovered the territories Wei had lost while battling Shu, all of this proves that he is quite underrated, both in DW and in the novel
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Kiheiji
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Well, those games are for entertainment purpose solely. DW Zhang He says nothing about the real Zhang He, so I don't see why people complain about it.
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Keiki
Fri Oct 8, 2010 10:58 am
Well, those games are for entertainment purpose solely. DW Zhang He says nothing about the real Zhang He, so I don't see why people complain about it.
Because we can think and express our opinions about something we find cool or not. Also, it's not wrong to compare History to DW

But, I agree with you. The game is for entertainment only.
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Yuqi
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At least his new look is loads better then dw6.
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