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| The Argument Against Fate; The Taoist view of the age-old question | |
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| Dogman | Mon Jan 9, 2006 10:31 am Post #1 |
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Fate is one of those quirky little ideas that, when you stand back and look at it, doesn't make much sense. There are two main types of 'Fate,' each has different logic, different implications, and ultimately different flaws that render them both to be somewhat foolish and self-indulgent. The first is Providence, the belief that God(s) created us with specific purposes in mind, but also with free will, and the second is Determinism, the belief that humans don't have free will and that our actions are the sum of our genetic makeup and past experiences. Before the argument can be made, a clear outline of 'free will' has to be laid out. A free choice is one in which you have at least one alternative. If you have only one possible course of action, then that decision is not a free one. The first type of Fate, Providence, is a staple belief of Abrahamic religion. It carries with it the belief that God is infinite and the universe was created by him, and is finite. The fundamental flaw with this system is that it's wrapped up in the question "Why," and asks it about the most peculiar things. They look at the world and ask "Why?", then look at themselves and ask "Why?" God and all the other Old Testament stories are simply invented answers to those questions. The easiest, and, I think, best way to discredit this belief is to simply counter with "Why not?" There is no reason why you should believe that the universe hasn't always existed, there's no reason to believe that you were fated to do certain things, and there's no reason to believe you'll end up in either Heaven or Hell when you die. These are all just answers created to alleviate questions which are, essentially, redundant. The second type, Determinism, is a belief held mostly within Atheist and scientific circles. It dictates that there is no soul, spirit, or consciousness to human beings, and that all of our decisions are the direct result of our experiences and genetic makeup. The fundamental flaw with this belief is that it is lacking in any kind of factual basis, and exists more as an antithesis to Providence than as a belief that can stand on its own merits. It makes the same error as Providence, i.e. jumping to conclusions and pulling complex answers out of thin air. There are even sciences that have provided evidence against Determinism- the field of quantum physics suggests that there is an aphysical aspect to the human being- an 'observer,' a ghost in the machine. The question of fate is one that troubles many, but is easy to dispel. I feel that I simply live, and do not 'live for.' |
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| Gryffin | Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:44 pm Post #2 |
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Han's Unifier
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Thank you. I'm glad to have found someone else who shares my view. |
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