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| Hondam | Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:11 pm Post #1 |
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Devil Kings =/= Sengoku BASARA Character DESIGN =/= The actual character. I.E: Just because Azure Dragon LOOKS like Date Masamune, He ISNT. Zebra's are white with black stripes, but does that mean Zebra A = Zebra B because they look the same? No. Devil Kings is NOT Sengoku Basara. When I see topics saying 'Who is your favorite DK character?!', dont answer with 'Masamune.' Masamune IS NOT in Devil Kings. If I see any posts or topics as such, I'll make a wirtten notice to please stay on topic (Saying Devil Kings names in an SB topic and vice-versa is technically Off-topic) and if the poster/s dont, I'll have to warn. Simple. |
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| BlackKite | Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:45 am Post #2 |
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Just want to add.. The producer of both Sengoku BASARA and Devil Kings, Mr. Hiroyuki Kobayashi, had stated in the past: Even though SB and DK share the same gameplay system and character designs, these two games are totally different to each other. Hope that makes things clear. This announcement is brought to you by HondaTadakatsu and Alex Dino. :ph43r: |
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| Hondam | Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:55 am Post #3 |
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PH33R DAMMIT >:o |
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| Crazypete | Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:09 pm Post #4 |
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i'm sure people are smart enough to know the difference.. <_< |
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| SlickSlicer | Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:08 pm Post #5 |
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Could someone point out to me how these two games are that different? They look like they're both hack-n-slashers with characters that even look the same. What makes Devil Kings and Sengoku Basara "totally different to each other?" |
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| LoW | Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:34 pm Post #6 |
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Haven't played Sengoku Basara, but I've heard the differences of it and Devil Kings. SB: - Based to Japan's Sengoku Jidai period - Characters are based to historical ones (with few expections) - Battles are also based to historical ones - 16 playable characters, 5 Special NPCs - Some characters movesets may different from Devil Kings DK: - Based to fantasy world, where everyone fight to rule Japan - Characters are fictional - Battles are fictional - 12 playable characters, 9 Special NPCs - Some of the items were removed - Some characters may have less skills to use than in SB and moves mgith have been changed. - Prime Attack is only in Devil Kings That's all I know. There are more differences though, but I don't know more than that. |
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| ChrisX | Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:29 pm Post #7 |
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DK doesn't take place in Japan. Everyone fight for the right to rule the fantasy world they live in. What's weird is why Devil King is trying to conquer the WHOLE REAL WORLD in his ending when his world is just the fantasy one. |
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| SlickSlicer | Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:13 am Post #8 |
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The first three bullet points are essentially the same thing. You could just say that one takes place in a fictional world and one takes place in feudal Japan. But that doesn't alter significantly the gameplay of the game and it doesn't make the games immensely different as well. Basically Devil Kings was just Capcom's solution of selling their games. They thought for some reason that Sengoku-Jidai games don't sell well here and so they decided to just change the storyline of one game. Either way that's not an enormous difference. The gameplay is not changed and only the story is distorted in DK. The character thing is irrelevant. That doesn't change much either and the less amount of items in Devil Kings is just a downgrade and not an important change. It doesn't make Devil Kings THAT much different from Sengoku Basara, it just makes it slightly worse for some people and to others (such as Honda who doesn't mind the removal of Reaper, Toshiie and Matsu), it doesn't make the game any different at all. The moveset changes and the ability to use prime attack the only thing that's a significant change. But are the characters movesets that varied from Sengoku Basara to Devil Kings? That's something only somebody who's played both can answer. And either way both games are still hack-n-slashers and have identical looking characters with similar movesets. It seems like Capcom gave the West a Sengoku Basara clone set in a fictional world because they didn't think SJ games can sell well...but overall there's not much a difference between the games, there's a ton of confusion related to how similar the games are and I don't think it should be a warnable offense for people to mistake the two. |
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| Hondam | Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:39 am Post #9 |
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For the record, Toshiie was one of my best SB characters. Look at sig pl0x. >_> Sengoku Basara -Takes place in the Sengoku Era of Japan -Date Masamune and Sanada Yukimura are the main characters -Each person sans a few are based on real people -Each stage and battle are based on real battles -The main 'story' of this game is to unite Japan under your banner Devil Kings -Takes place in a fictional, fantasy themed continent -It's main character is Devil King. -These people have no relation to the SB characters who LOOK like them and are based off of no one -The stages are all fantasy themed -Main story: The Devil King sold his soul to the Devil, in order to gain power. Hence the name as well. Notice: LOOKS dont mean ANYTHING. I may LOOK like someone, but I am not said someone. You've already broken down Wei's post, but think this way Slick: My first points: A game taking place in let's just say Holland and another game takes place in Japan. You cant have the same game. The areas themselves are different, and one country cant apply to another. So conquering Japan =/= Conquering a Fantasy World. Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara Second: Main character(s) are different. Why does this mean anything? Well, take Gotach Force for example (I know you've played it >___>). Having Kou as the main character and then having Orochi as the main character in another dosnt make them the same game. There will be different stories, different everything. Same with SB and DK. The main characters affect background and plot. Masamune/Yukimura are rivals in the Sengoku Era; Devil King sold his soul for power. Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara. Third: Again, looks mean nothing. Sengoku Basara has characters all based on real people sans the 3 not. Devil Kings' characters are mere fantasy people dreamed up on a whim. Zebra A =/= Zebra B. Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara Fourth: The stages. My house may LOOK like someone else's, but that dosnt mean my house is thier house. Fuji-san may LOOK like a Himilayan mountain, but Fuji-san =/= said mountain. Same with the stages the similarities in layout mean nothing, and most stages have been changed entirely. Odawara isnt a glorious castle in Devil Kings, since it dosnt exist. The stage with the same layout is an Anubis-God of death giant temple; no castle. And like the characters, SB's stages are based on real places, Devil King's were dreamed up. Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara Fifth: The STORIES themselves are a different. One of the biggest factors too. A sequel game dosnt have the same story as it's prequel, and obviously they arent the same. Said situation also applies here. If one game has Bananas trying to rule the world, while the other is about Bananas trying to grow muffins in the sugar field, they CANT be the same game. Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara. Some other factors: - Hell, there's only like 3~4 Samurai armies in Devil Kings. - Lots of symbols have been changed. - Different fighting system in Devil Kings. - Etc Etc Bottom line: Devil Kings is not and will never be Sengoku Basara. Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara |
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| SlickSlicer | Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:15 am Post #10 |
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Right. I was waiting for you to reply because I know you've played both and could give me the best response. I just wanted to understand what made them so different because I can easily understand why there's a great deal of confusion, especially with characters because they look exactly the same. You've shown me how the game and characters are varied and now that this has been accomplished, people will have a better idea on why Devil Kings =/= Sengoku Basara and realize the meaning of this new rule.
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| Hondam | Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:03 am Post #11 |
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xd >_> But yeah, rule made and heed it. |
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| Mizzle | Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:34 am Post #12 |
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Lol Honda... |
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| LoW | Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:29 pm Post #13 |
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Well like Honda said, places like Holland and Japan for example, wouldn't be same thing >_<. Anyways, yeah I think Honda said it pretty well (he actually has played the both games), but I still would like to add the differences, what a FAQ writer from Neoseeker listed. //Nevermind. The FAQ was TOO BIG for this site. I'll just give you a direct link: http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html...07014&rid=99441 |
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| Hondam | Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:50 am Post #14 |
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>_> I'd do the same at GFaqs if it would stop being a bish and let me log in. |
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| Mizzle | Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:21 am Post #15 |
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Sue G-faqs for being newbs. |
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| Hondam | Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:37 am Post #16 |
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Hmm..You can log in on the other hand... GO MIZZLEH AND SPREAD THE TEACHINGS OF ALEX AND HONDA Dont tell them it's from here though. Dun wan nubs from the SB board to come D: |
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| Mizzle | Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:03 am Post #17 |
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not a chance! You should make a new account, or something.
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| Hondam | Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:11 am Post #18 |
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Tried. Twice. >_> |
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| BorderGirl90210 | Thu May 18, 2006 8:32 pm Post #19 |
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Sorry to those of you who are firm believers of the zebra a does not equal zebra b crap... but imo this is bs... I'll abide by your rules... but honestly... this is unbeleivable |
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| lmay19 | Fri May 19, 2006 12:43 am Post #20 |
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Just remember... looks can be deceiving.
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| Hondam | Fri May 19, 2006 3:21 am Post #21 |
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So, Zebra A = Zebra B? GG. |
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| necrosis | Fri May 19, 2006 7:51 pm Post #22 |
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You two are the most anal retentive people I've ever seen on the internet. I LOVE IT
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| BorderGirl90210 | Fri May 19, 2006 8:16 pm Post #23 |
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Yep, two zebras same stripes |
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| BlackKite | Sat May 20, 2006 6:10 am Post #24 |
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Hmm. Even though those two zebras have similar stripes, are you sure they have exactly the same stripes, and also voice, trait and habit? :rolleyes: Remember, Nobody is the same, even a lookalike twins won't have the same friction skin ridges or fingerprints.
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| necrosis | Sat May 20, 2006 6:13 am Post #25 |
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Clones are the same. .... |
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