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I'll Try And Make This As Clear As Possible
Topic Started: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:11 pm (5,618 Views)
Hondam
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Chen_Stormstout
Jul 24 2006, 11:22 AM
Mouri Motonari
Jul 24 2006, 09:21 PM
Lord of Wei
Jul 24 2006, 09:22 AM
I would like to ask something from those who have played both DK and SB.

Is it true that gameplay in DK got major improvement from SB? Some people have said they enjoyed more from DK than from SB because of better gameplay.

The gameplay in DK is vastly different over the gameplay in SB.

Chen: Why post if you dont care?

No, no, no!
It's not that I don't care.
I'm asking "why" create this thread?
Has there been PROBLEMS with members that are confused with the two games? Like, members flaming each other or something?
I was just curious man...

Then yes, yes there has.

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Dabok
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You're not online? lol
Okay then...I was just curious, it appears to me that these "differences" are subtile...
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Mouri Motonari
Jul 24 2006, 09:21 PM
Lord of Wei
Jul 24 2006, 09:22 AM
I would like to ask something from those who have played both DK and SB.

Is it true that gameplay in DK got major improvement from SB? Some people have said they enjoyed more from DK than from SB because of better gameplay.

The gameplay in DK is vastly different over the gameplay in SB.

Chen: Why post if you dont care?

Question: What was the prupose of triangle button in SB if there wasn't Prime Attack?

Ok, so the gameplay is vastly different, but did you find it better in DK?
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Hondam
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Lord of Wei
Jul 24 2006, 01:37 PM
Mouri Motonari
Jul 24 2006, 09:21 PM
Lord of Wei
Jul 24 2006, 09:22 AM
I would like to ask something from those who have played both DK and SB.

Is it true that gameplay in DK got major improvement from SB? Some people have said they enjoyed more from DK than from SB because of better gameplay.

The gameplay in DK is vastly different over the gameplay in SB.

Chen: Why post if you dont care?

Question: What was the prupose of triangle button in SB if there wasn't Prime Attack?

Ok, so the gameplay is vastly different, but did you find it better in DK?

Sengoku Basara

square = basic string
circle = Basara
triangle = use one of your special moves
L1 = cycle through the moves you selected


Devil kings

square = basic string
circle = fury drive
triangle = priming
R1+Square/Triangle = booster moves

It's only a couple button different things, but the gameplay in DK adds a new spin on the game. So yes, I prefer Devil King's combat system.
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Garnavis
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Um... I think I'm going to take Mouri Motonari's side here.

Okay, look at Sengoku BASARA and Devil Kings as two movies with the same cast, such as This is Spinal Tap and A Mighty Wind. Both movies feature Michael McKean, Harry Shearer, and Christopher Guest, and both movies are fake documentaries about those people playing music. However, their characters in each movie are different, they play different types of music, and the story is different. So, This is Spinal Tap != A Mighty Wind. Sengoku BASARA != Devil Kings.

Does this help?
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VulpineNinja
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meh

Same or not, DK is derived from SB anyway.
No one can stop me from referring Scorpio as Yukimura. They may have changed the names of places, but the stages are the same. They may change the names of characters; but the thing is why would so-called 'dopplegangers' wear the same clothes?

So they're different, but not completely different. I still see some similarities but they're not exactly the same.

sorry for posting a bit too late. I just wanna make it clear on the 'differences' between DK and SB.
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VulpineNinja
Oct 25 2007, 03:44 PM
meh

Same or not, DK is derived from SB anyway.
No one can stop me from referring Scorpio as Yukimura. They may have changed the names of places, but the stages are the same. They may change the names of characters; but the thing is why would so-called 'dopplegangers' wear the same clothes?

So they're different, but not completely different. I still see some similarities but they're not exactly the same.

sorry for posting a bit too late. I just wanna make it clear on the 'differences' between DK and SB.

Nope, the stages are different and... Scorpio's not Yukimura. :P
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DK isn't SB, it's conceptually much worse, a sad idea for a localization that would appeal more to americans. It appealed so much they didn't bother taking SB2 over, go figure
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Myllari
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My favorite character in Devil Kings is Uesugi Kenshin aka Frost.

My least favorite character from Sengoku Basara is the big power ranger robot with the terminator eye named Iron Ox, it is my understanding that this character is allegedly based on Honda Tadakatsu. Perhaps I lack the skills in comprehending how this turd is even remotely based on Tadakatsu, which is why I would much rather refer to the character as Iron Ox irregardless if we are discussing Sengoku Basara or Devil Kings.

That being said, I can see much more of a resemblance between the Devil Kings character Frost to the Sengoku Basara character Uesugi Kenshin. Iron Ox, however, is not representative of Honda Tadakatsu in any aspect whatsoever.

Member "Hondam" this is not meant to be disrespectful, but I could care less about your supposed rule. If you have a problem with that give me your address and I'll mail you a box of Kleenex. The administrators and moderators make the rules on this site to the best of my knowledge, not members who seem to have a bone to pick over their own agenda.
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Hey, that's just your opinion. Hondam is a creative rendition of Tadakatsu in my (and many others') opinions: you have the ultimate legendary powerful character, who cannot be even wounded...what do you do with him? Take the easy path, and create a "man of peerless might" (sick and tired cliche present in every friggin action game/manga/anime ever) or try to twist the cliche, and give this supposedly ridiculously strong character a real reason to be so: make it a friggin robot.


Tadakatsu is the quintessence of the meaning of the word Basara: crazy, out of this world, exaggerated and flamboyant. It might have millions of flaws, but if you bash it for this reason you just have to look at the game's title again. Criticizing it for being too weird just doesn't make sense...
Edited by Nine Demons Yoshitaka, Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:04 am.
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Myllari
Sat Nov 7, 2009 7:05 pm
My favorite character in Devil Kings is Uesugi Kenshin aka Frost.

My least favorite character from Sengoku Basara is the big power ranger robot with the terminator eye named Iron Ox, it is my understanding that this character is allegedly based on Honda Tadakatsu. Perhaps I lack the skills in comprehending how this turd is even remotely based on Tadakatsu, which is why I would much rather refer to the character as Iron Ox irregardless if we are discussing Sengoku Basara or Devil Kings.

That being said, I can see much more of a resemblance between the Devil Kings character Frost to the Sengoku Basara character Uesugi Kenshin. Iron Ox, however, is not representative of Honda Tadakatsu in any aspect whatsoever.

Member "Hondam" this is not meant to be disrespectful, but I could care less about your supposed rule. If you have a problem with that give me your address and I'll mail you a box of Kleenex. The administrators and moderators make the rules on this site to the best of my knowledge, not members who seem to have a bone to pick over their own agenda.
I'm pretty sure that "member" was an Admin at a time. However you're still pretty much a newbie here so I wouldn't expect you to know that.

And just because you think he isn't a representation of Honda, it doesn't change the fact that he is.
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Sat Nov 7, 2009 7:05 pm
Member "Hondam" this is not meant to be disrespectful, but I could care less about your supposed rule. If you have a problem with that give me your address and I'll mail you a box of Kleenex.
That's perfectly fine. I actually wish I could go back and change my first post but this was made well over a year ago (blame it on the stupid posts about SB/DK back on gfaqs...), it doesn't really seem like it would do much.

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The administrators and moderators make the rules on this site to the best of my knowledge, not members who seem to have a bone to pick over their own agenda.


Hah. I actually was a GM or Admin back when I made this. :hehe:
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Myllari
Sat Nov 7, 2009 7:05 pm
My favorite character in Devil Kings is Uesugi Kenshin aka Frost.

My least favorite character from Sengoku Basara is the big power ranger robot with the terminator eye named Iron Ox, it is my understanding that this character is allegedly based on Honda Tadakatsu. Perhaps I lack the skills in comprehending how this turd is even remotely based on Tadakatsu, which is why I would much rather refer to the character as Iron Ox irregardless if we are discussing Sengoku Basara or Devil Kings.

That being said, I can see much more of a resemblance between the Devil Kings character Frost to the Sengoku Basara character Uesugi Kenshin. Iron Ox, however, is not representative of Honda Tadakatsu in any aspect whatsoever.

Well, he is, Iron Ox is based off of Honda Tadakatsu, and Honda Tadakatsu in the SB games is a big ass robot, get over it. -_-

You must be pretty stubborn to say that This robot can't be Tadakatsu because you just can't understand it, thats honestly a very ridiculous reason to say that the truth, is not the truth (that this robot, isn't Honda tadakatsu).

I'm sorry you cannot reason with the fact that the devellopers of SB thought they would take a new approach on Tadakatsu, he is a histroical figure, not a market peice, he isn't Mario or something, you couldn't change Mario into a robot and still say he is Mario, but you could easily do it to a man who lived 500+ years ago.

I get the feeling that the sengoku period is a bit of a mystery to you, and you just get your opinion from viewing other samurai games.
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These last few posts were funny. Epic Necro against a former mod's rule is epic.

And yeah, actually do research on the Sengoku Jidai if you haven't, simply playing video games and watching a movie or two about it won't be enough information in a serious discussion about it.
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Sun Dec 6, 2009 2:03 am
These last few posts were funny. Epic Necro against a former mod's rule is epic.

And yeah, actually do research on the Sengoku Jidai if you haven't, simply playing video games and watching a movie or two about it won't be enough information in a serious discussion about it.
Hey guys. I may be the new guy here, but this post made me lol. A 2-year-late necropost going against a member that used to be an admin? I've never seen that in the years I've spent on the internet.
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