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History Of The Forum
Topic Started: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:52 am (5,329 Views)
lmay19
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Augustus Caesar
Jan 4 2007, 09:24 PM
No. I actually said "get rid of it" instead of add more of your very, very, very disturbing avatar.

What's wrong with it? It's just a constant replay of a part from KH2
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Red Knight
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It just looks really f*cking wrong though. It's a very disturbing endless loop
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lmay19
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But Sora likes it ;[
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XenoShaun
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Jan 4 2007, 09:31 PM
But Sora likes it ;[

I think Augustus has a point Jin. Atleast get rid of the ones in your sig, the avatar is fine though.
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And so his first commander and boss has left this site.
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Maybe when Hondam gets back, we can all contribute our knowledge here.
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lmay19
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GoldenSummit
Jan 4 2007, 09:36 PM
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Jan 4 2007, 09:31 PM
But Sora likes it ;[

I think Augustus has a point Jin. Atleast get rid of the ones in your sig, the avatar is fine though.

Oh fine, you Sora fanboy. :/
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XenoShaun
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Guan Yu's apprentice
Jan 4 2007, 09:53 PM
Maybe when Hondam gets back, we can all contribute our knowledge here.

Yeah, I'm sure with us together we have the knowledge to get this all sorted properly.

and thanks Jin.
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SlickSlicer
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I love ytmnd...

And Sora loves his goof troop. :)

Shawnee (you've been promoted to a Native American tribe)-Let GYA and Hondam do it. They've been here longer than you or I.
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lmay19
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SlickSlicer
Jan 4 2007, 11:22 PM
I love ytmnd...

And Sora loves his goof troop. :)

Shawnee (you've been promoted to a Native American tribe)-Let GYA and Hondam do it. They've been here longer than you or I.

What the hell @ that post.
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SlickSlicer
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You got that avatar from ytmnd right? That's where I saw it anyways...
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lmay19
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Oh, no someone posted it in a gif sharing thread somewhere else... they might have gotten it from ytmnd. But what the heck do you mean by "you've been promoted to a Native American tribe"????????????????????????????????????????
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Red Knight
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Shawnee was a native American tribe, it's also the name of a river. GS=Shawn. Add 2 es to Shawn and you get Shawnee :D
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XenoShaun
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Augustus Caesar
Jan 5 2007, 01:59 PM
Shawnee was a native American tribe, it's also the name of a river. GS=Shawn. Add 2 es to Shawn and you get Shawnee :D

Actually my name is spelt Shaun, but close enough.
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Red Knight
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Are you going to mention stuff like 100,00 posts? I posted the last few posts necessary to get to 100,000. Did I get any accolades for it? No.
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XenoShaun
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I doubt we will mention that. But its up to the guys that will update it.
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Artemis
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I guess I could continue this (seeing as besides GYA I'm one of the few staff members currently here that was there since Sean left).
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MasamuneDuckey
Jan 5 2007, 05:20 PM
I guess I could continue this (seeing as besides GYA I'm one of the few staff members currently here that was there since Sean left).

Yeah that would be good, I believe I joined a few months after the leaving of Sean, so wouldn't know anything about that. Though I know the recent things that have happened, so I could contribute at that part.
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After Sean left, I had a bunch of stupid arguments with Honda Tadakatsu over practically nothing. After awhile that stopped, because we weren't actually arguing over anything important. There was peace in the staff for awhile since Kham was gone, but I think we allowed him to come back, whereupon he was good for a short while and then started screwing with the board again. Come to think of it, Kham basically caused most of the chaos and arguments in the staff for quite a long time. The so-called 'civil war' that GYA mentions was nothing more than a petty feud that began between Honda and Sean and was extremely exacerbated by my 'entrance' into the fray. The reason that got so chaotic was because I favored a 'democratic' kind of staff where all the staff could vote on things before they got done. Honda didn't agree with this, but he and I sided anyways because he didn't support a staff where Sean got to call the shots. I got pissed over several occassions where Sean did things without so much as even bringing them up in the staff forum, but eventually things stopped getting so out of hand. I would then go on to oppose every leading staff member who tried to do things without counseling the other mods.

GYA became an administrator either after Sean left or after Insight left. I forgot when he was one, but I was there to see both Sean and Insight leave. I started to play a huge freakin' role in the staff. I started increasing the amount of stuff I did and getting involved with issues like 'how to handle members like MizzleSunBizzle' and how we would warn and deal with members. I favored a lenient policy, because I felt that members like MizzleSunBizzle did more to help the forum than hurt it (and just because some stupid people were offended by him didn't mean crap). I became a global moderator, and started making threads both to show the members how chaotic the staff was and to get member feedback on how to reform the staff forum. Eventually, the moderators started siding against me because a lot of the time I was all for kicking them out of staff and bringing in new blood (like Lord of Wei, etc.).

MizzleSunBizzle started getting unnecessarily warned by moderators. He eventually quit the board, but before he left he, me and HondaTadakatsu made the rules that are currently on the forum. I had two main goals with making the rules. One was to be more specific with what was against the rules and the other was to be less specific with punishments for the rules. Sean, the previous maker of the rules, had claimed himself that his rules had been a rough draft. In any case, even though we made the rules, I would have to post them in the staff multiple times before they were finally adapted. In fact, they weren't even put up until Goldensummit was made an administrator, an event which happened WAY the hell after me, MSB and HondaTadakatsu had made the new rules in the first place.

Goldensummit joined. I was at first friendly with him, Axomme, LizaVetaVath and Chin. This changed, however, as soon as we stopped talking casually and started having serious discussions and/or debates on things. Actually, most of the time LizaVetaVath agreed with me when we had these, but Axomme became alienated from me after awhile. Cao David came here with the stolen work of TheTwoDud. This would not be turned into a RPG for awhile though (in the meantime, I started roleplaying with Jbrace, Raistlin, Zeros, Cao David and others on TheTwoDud's actual site). Finally DWCC would come to the forum. Wu (under Goldensummit) would win the game, and I would go on to make most of what became Samurai Warriors Conquers Japan Version 1.0. Goldensummit, TheTwoDud and GYA would play the significant role of modding all the different 'Warriors Conquer' games that emerged on the forum.

I started really wanting to change the staff. I tried to reform it in numerous ways, but most of the time the staff voted against everything I proposed (a lot of the time they did this for their own selfish reasons too :/). At some point in time, and on a completely unrelated note, the forum moderator, Amirah, left the staff. Before she left, she DEMANDED that I edit the first post the 'Post a Picture of Yourself' thread to include all the links of pictures that people had posted of themselves. This I did, though it take several hours and should have been her job since she was a moderator of that forum. Ironically, this and other minor things I did in the Picture/GFX board would end up amounting to more than both Amirah and LizaVetaVath did in that particular forum (when I would point this out later, LizaVetaVath would become very angry; that particular episode is mentioned later in this post).

One of the few things that the staff agreed with me on was regarding the banning of Karl_Eichholtz, a.k.a. Inspector Trout. HondaTadakatsu had long wanted to ban him, but I made the final poll which resulted in his permanent suspension from the forum (it was supposed to be temporary, but he hasn't returned). My biggest reversal happened when I put the quote 'Plan and simpel' (written by Cao David) in my signature. This pissed the shit out of several staff members, and resulted in a long battle of Miho, Goldensummit, Cao David & Divine Justice vs. Me, HondaTadakatsu, Jin and some others. It shouldn't have even been an issue, because I was merely quoting something that CAO DAVID HAD HIMSELF SAID.

Before this Cao David battle was going on, GYA posted the amount of mod actions everybody had. When I saw that I had the most actions, much more compared to other moderators, I was flustered because it seemed like my colleagues were all talk and no action. The posting of mod actions by an admin led to a great change in moderator work ethic. Suddenly, getting a lot of mod actions became a goal worth attaining, and conflicts broke out between members over who was and was not a good moderator. Nouhime and Jin, two senior staff members, were particularly aggressive in their quarrelling. Jin, though having less mod actions than Nouhime, had power over less boards than her but had been a mod for more time than her. When it was pointed out that he had less mod actions, one of the legendary battles between these two moderators would ensue. Another would occur over the release date topic, and at one point Nouhime would complain to Inspector Chin about Jin, resulting in Jin's temporary exile to the Dynasty Warriors forum.

In response to the mod actions that were listed, I posted a giant moderator reform thread where I tried to give each moderator certain tasks to complete to make the board better. Many moderators got PISSED at me for this. LizaVetaVath and Zhuge_flea went off on me the most, if I remember correctly. Many of the moderators that I shunned were ejected from the staff later on (ironically), but I was so frustrated at how defensive they were getting and how much they fought against what I was trying to accomplish that I asked to be banned after many arguments in the staff forum between me, Goldensummit, LizaVetaVath (who later admitted she was a bad mod, according to Shaun *cough*), Miho and Inspector Chin over moderator reform and the whole issue about Cao David.

I tried to make the board better through reform, but I could never accomplish much because reform involved getting rid of bad moderators and putting in better, more efficient ones (and the current moderators would, of course, not agree to a reduction of power). I couldn't handle the conflict, and so I kicked myself out of the forum.

"Never decrease the koku (revenues) of a vassal under you, but do not increase the koku (revenues) of a vassal too much, too quickly as then you will never need to decrease your vassals' revenue in the first place."

The Koei Warriors staff had raised too many people to too many high positions too fast. Because it was so difficult to decrease their status while keeping their loyalty to the board, problems were bound to occur in the staff, and I was blamed for these problems. Since then, many of the people who made it into the staff without much qualification have been ejected from staff. Some, like Kham, have even been banned.
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I left the forum. I was told that peace had been initiated following my leave, but this was far from the truth. I had tried to allow members to play a more active role in helping staff reform by openly discussing the staff problems themselves with members. Before I had left, Chin claimed that many members had complained about me, HondaTadakatsu and others. Just slightly before I asked to be banned, I created a topic for members to voice their complaints openly and for the staff to resolve them (this topic is still stickied in the feedback section). Nobody posted anything in that topic when I was still around. When I left, things got out of hand.

Masanori had apparently been one of the most significant people to complain about elitism in the staff. I had myself called Honda an elitist in the past, but by this time I had long resolved my differences with Honda. Masanori, however, had much to complain about the way others had treated him. The staff shot his complaints down and quarreled with him for quite awhile, before masanori, a member (rather than a mod), finally left. This all happened while I was gone, but I was exposed to seeing it when I returned. It appeared that when I had left, the staff fighting had been changed from staff to staff conflict to staff to member conflict. Another source of conflict, however, was with a claim that Chin had made stating that many members had complained. In fact, masanori would be the only member to state significant complaints against the board.

Of the most important things that happened when I was gone, Honda Tadakatsu removed the system of moderators voting on things before they were done. A more efficient but less democratic staff hierarchy was thus now more firmly in place.

The rest will be continued by Shaun.
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That's all in the past now. I've given up that name.
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Um.... not to start anything, but Masanori was out of line, and she was really the only person who did that, IIRC.
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Of course it's in the past. Hence this is a 'History of the Forum' thread, Makoto.

@ DJ-Out of line? That's a subjective statement. I'm just stating the facts, and the facts are that contrary to what Chin had said about millions of members complaining, only masanori made any real complaints against the forum staff and this was a source of conflict after I left.
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MasamuneDuckey
Jan 6 2007, 12:43 AM
@ DJ-Out of line? That's a subjective statement. I'm just stating the facts, and the facts are that contrary to what Chin had said about millions of members complaining, only masanori made any real complaints against the forum staff and this was a source of conflict after I left.

Ohhhh, I see what you're saying. Nevermind then, misunderstanding.
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Artemis
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Hm...*edits original post to make it more clear*

Alright, it should make more sense now.
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lmay19
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You forgot a LOT of events. But you werent here so that may have been why. But how the hell could you forget the war between myself and Nouhime? And what about the "JP VA option in SW2: Empires"? We all have our own stories to tell, I guess. ;)
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