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| Sean | Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:34 pm Post #1 |
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I've been reading a book on Taoism as of late. It's interesting, because people in olden times believed that if you swallowed stuff as a product of mercury, lead, and who knows what, you would be swallowing a pill of immortality. Silly. |
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| Rigochu | Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:45 am Post #2 |
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i got a few books on taoism... sum of them quite explicit (sexual in nature).... actually they're my dads... i havn't really read any of them... (just looked at teh pix!! lol)
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| Kham | Mon Aug 7, 2006 6:29 pm Post #3 |
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I'm a taoist
If you have any questions about Taoism just ask .
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| Guan Yu's apprentice | Tue Aug 8, 2006 12:32 am Post #4 |
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Ok. How is Taoism different from Buddhism? |
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| Sean | Tue Aug 8, 2006 12:40 am Post #5 |
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Taoism begins with a "T" and Buddhism starts with a "B".
... <_< Wikipedia: Taoism: A principal philosophy and system of religion of China based on the teachings of Lao-tzu in the sixth century b.c. and on subsequent revelations. It advocates preserving and restoring the Tao in the body and the cosmos. Buddhism: 1. The teaching of Buddha that life is permeated with suffering caused by desire, that suffering ceases when desire ceases, and that enlightenment obtained through right conduct, wisdom, and meditation releases one from desire, suffering, and rebirth. 2. The religion represented by the many groups, especially numerous in Asia, that profess varying forms of this doctrine and that venerate Buddha. Also, an interesting thought came up just now. 1. The teaching of Buddha that life is permeated with suffering caused by desire, that suffering ceases when desire ceases, and that enlightenment obtained through right conduct, wisdom, and meditation releases one from desire, suffering, and rebirth. 2. The religion represented by the many groups, especially numerous in Asia, that profess varying forms of this doctrine and that venerate Buddha. Well that was easy wasn't it? |
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| Amirah | Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:43 pm Post #6 |
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If you ate two much lead or mercury it would lead to mortalily, not imortality, LOl. |
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| Dogman | Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:01 am Post #7 |
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There are two types of Taoism- First, is the traditional Chinese religion of ancestor and spirit worship, an awful lot like the Japanese Shinto faith. Second, is the school of philosophy that originated with Lao Tsu, and which was combined with Buddhism to create Chan (Zen). It was also extremely influential in the development of Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. The second is the more interesting of the two. It is difficult to describe because it is the Way of having no Way- Taoism is not a theory or system of belief as much as it is a process. Personal liberation is an important part of Taoist theory, although it is usually pursued as liberation from your own ego (your fears, prejudices, etc). Another major part is learning to let go- the see the world and yourself from the perspective of what is, not what should be. Taoism is also associated with a deep connection to nature and humanity in general. |
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| SlickSlicer | Tue Jan 2, 2007 3:17 pm Post #8 |
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This either needs to be put into the Chinese History forum if it's a historical discussion or it needs to be put into the general board if it's a discussion on Taoism and its' precepts in general. This is why you need me as a moderator. >_< |
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| SlickSlicer | Tue Jan 2, 2007 8:36 pm Post #9 |
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You guys moved it to the Chinese History forum eh? Then I assume this is a discussion about the history of Taoism. Well...here's where I chime in.
Taoism seems to have started before the Three Kingdoms period, but it became a big religion around the time of the Han and Three Kingdoms era. Militant groups like the Yellow Scarves (and all the sects that branched off from it), Zhang Lu's Taoist sect and others helped to spread the religion to the common man. Many famous characters of the Three Kingdoms were Taoists. Buddhism, China's other big religion (before the Commies took over >:)), began to spread greatly slightly after the Three Kingdoms era. It was during the Age of Fragmentation, a period where many different barbarian tribes overran Northern China (which was in control of the Western Jin dynasty), that Buddhism began to become prominent. There were some characters, such as Zhai Rong, that were devout Buddhists during the Late-Han to Three Kingdoms era, but it wasn't until foreigners took over many parts of China that a foreign religion like Buddhism could be very successful. Popular legends like the Story of that one monk's pilgrimage to India (Saiyuki?) may have helped spread Buddhism. |
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| kongming's_disciple | Tue Jan 2, 2007 11:12 pm Post #10 |
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SlickSlicer, I am impressed. You have done your research well. However, there are a few things I would like to add: Daoism is more of a westernized term to classify those who conduct Daoist practices. Daoism is not a religion until the end of the Eastern Han dynasty and the start of the Three Kingdoms. One of the most influential Daoist groups during this period is called Celestial Masters or Five Pecks of Rice, founded by a man called Zhang Daoling(or Zhang Ling). Before that, as SlickSlicer had already mentioned, Daoism is more of a way of thinking, a kind of philosophy with life-preserving exercises and practices associated with it. Lao Tzu, and Chuang Zi, and other Daoists along similar lines of thinking before that time would not refer to themselves as 'Daoists'. It is also suspected by many whether Lao Tzu had actually existed as a person historically. Did you know?: In addition to worshiping Daoism, emperor Huan of Han is also the first Chinese emperor to worship Buddhism. |
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| Red Knight | Tue Jan 2, 2007 11:16 pm Post #11 |
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Zhang Daoling was also known as Zhang Lu. There was also Wu Tao-Tse and Li Po. |
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| SlickSlicer | Tue Jan 2, 2007 11:35 pm Post #12 |
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No I never knew that. Guess you learn something new every day. Thankies. Augustus: Who are they? |
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| Red Knight | Tue Jan 2, 2007 11:40 pm Post #13 |
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Taoist authors. I'm surprised at you for not knowin' that, dude! |
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| SlickSlicer | Wed Jan 3, 2007 12:04 pm Post #14 |
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I know very little about Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism (yes that's not a religion, but it is a philosophical doctrine in a way, especially Neo-Confucianism)... |
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| Red Knight | Thu Jan 4, 2007 3:42 pm Post #15 |
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Taoism and Confucianism are actually philosophies. Confucianism is extremely egalitarian whilst Taoism is markedly less so. Zen Buddhism and in a way, Nichiren Buddhism were influenced by Taoism. |
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| Dogman | Fri Jan 5, 2007 6:42 am Post #16 |
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How is Taoism less egalitarian than Confucianism? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just curious. |
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| Artemis | Fri Jan 5, 2007 7:13 am Post #17 |
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Confucianism is not egalitarian at all. It wasn't historically used by later philosophers as a doctrine to promote egalitarianism either. In fact, the Neo-Confucianists used Confucianism to justify strict social hierarchy, if I remember correctly. This was also a big reason why Neo-Confucianist schools prospered and were supported by the government during the Edo Period of Japan. Of course, the greatest Neo-Confucianist was the great Zhu Xi... |
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| kongming's_disciple | Fri Jan 5, 2007 8:32 am Post #18 |
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Some say Confucianism is elitist, but I am not too sure about it. You can decide for yourself. Mohism, the philosophy founded by Mo Zi(another popular school of thought during the Warring States period, but eventually dies out in the Qin), however, is definitely egalitarian/somewhat utilitarian. |
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| Artemis | Fri Jan 5, 2007 6:31 pm Post #19 |
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I'm not sure that Kong Fuzi himself was elitist, but the later Neo-Confucianists were sometimes elitist in my opinion. |
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| Red Knight | Fri Jan 5, 2007 8:38 pm Post #20 |
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I think you mean Kung Fu-tze? That was Confucious' Chinese name. Taoism and Confucianism are the only 2 100 Schools philosophy to survive until the present day. |
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| kongming's_disciple | Fri Jan 5, 2007 11:38 pm Post #21 |
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There were different spellings for Confucius' title, as well as other notable figures throughout Chinese history. Kong Fuzi, Kong Fu Zi, Kung Fu-tze or any other spelling are fine, they are merely a translation of the sound Confucius' name/title was pronounced in Chinese. By the way, Confucius' real name is Kong Qiu, Kong being his family name, Qiu being his first name, with the character Qiu meaning 'hill' in Chinese. Out of respect and reverence, Chinese people never refered to him directly as Kong Qiu, substituting his name with the title Fuzi. Fu Zi, or Fuzi is just a general term that a pupil used to refer to their teacher, meaning 'master'. Despite most schools of thought didn't survive, one of them being Legalism, Legalism still has many influences on the rulerships of subsequent emperors and dynasties, and aids them in honing their rulership expertise. |
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| Artemis | Fri Jan 5, 2007 11:54 pm Post #22 |
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BAh...we might as well rename the topic of this title to 'History of Chinese Religion and Philosophy.' |
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| Shogun | Fri Jun 8, 2007 2:23 pm Post #23 |
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Hmm...I thought Taoism was about ''The Ways of Nature'' from the teachings of Lao Tzu. |
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| Wu Fei | Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:47 pm Post #24 |
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Today Confucianism, Daoism, and Buddhism is still strongly influencing the Chinese way of life. All three philosophy had kinda bonded together. However, Confucianism is more of a philosophy while the other two are considered religion. Parts of Southeast Asia, Korea and Japan are influenced by all there. In fact Japan, is heavily influenced by Chinese culture/religion, especially during the Tang dynasty and till this day still. |
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| MitsunariIshida | Sat Aug 4, 2007 8:35 pm Post #25 |
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There was a person named Master Lao.I try to find more infomation about him and he was said to be the founder of Taoism.Is this true? |
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