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Samurai Warriors 2: Empires; Japan is in your hands!
Topic Started: Jul 4 2006, 09:43 AM (23,345 Views)
Hondam	Jul 5 2006, 03:13 AM Post #26
轟 Posts: 4,228 Group: Members Member #46 Joined: August 30, 2005 Gender Male	Jin Jul 4 2006, 01:43 PM Mouri Motonari Jul 4 2006, 11:41 PM Hokkaido..? You do realize there was next to no one ruling hokkaido, right? >_> Alex said there was. I have to go now but in the SB2 thread... Alex found one. EDIT Samurai Archives MATSUMAE The Matsumae were an offshoot of the Takeda and unified Hokkaido's Oshima Peninsula during the mid-16th Century. They later submitted to Toyotomi Hideyoshi and were confirmed in their holdings by Tokugawa Ieyasu. Matsumae Yoshihiro (Kakizaki Yoshihiro) Ezo warlord 1550 - 1618 Matsumae Yoshihiro was the lord of the Sonogi area of Ezo Province (Hokkaido) and submitted to Toyotomi Hideyoshi in 1590, bringing troops to the reduction of Kunoe Castle the following year. Until the time of Yoshihiro, the Matsumae were known as the 'Kakizaki' clan - this would change in 1606, when Yoshihiro visited Kyoto and Osaka. He became known as 'Matsumae' Yoshihiro while showing a map of Matsumae, the town in Ezo where his clan was originally from, to a group of the late Hideyoshi's chief retainers at Osaka Castle. Yoshihiro had reportedly many Ainu in his army, and these were well-known for their special poisoned arrows, although it is not known how effective these arrows were in battle, if employed at all. Quote: You do realize there was next to no one ruling hokkaido, right? >_> The history of Hokkaido is very bleh. The early Ainu was the only exciting thing about it.
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Inspector Trout	Jul 5 2006, 03:18 AM Post #27
Scotland Yard Posts: 362 Group: Banned Member #100 Joined: October 16, 2005	Neo Juste Belmont Jul 5 2006, 02:56 AM If September 2006 is the release date.... does this mean the US version of SW2 is going to be delayed again? no and no!



Nouhime	Jul 5 2006, 03:20 AM Post #28
Dea Tacita Posts: 1,070 Group: Members Member #214 Joined: December 16, 2005	Uh okay let me clear this up again.. three links were posted inregards to this? Official site - http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/sengoku2e/ Game Watch - http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/2...704/sengoku.htm IGN - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/716/716438p1.html expected release date is written on the official site and Game Watch. It states... September 2006. That is all. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE US RELEASE DATE. THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT GAME RELEASES. More stuff: Release info. There will be 3 different 'packages': just the Empires game (4494 yen), Empires Treasure Box (7280 yen), Sengoku Musou 2 + Empires premium box (8400 yen). That is all that the information released at the moment. The end. Anymore weird things about "ooh the US release is going to be pushed bacckk bahblahblah!!!" will end up with this thread being closed because i'm mean. What i've written here is basically a translation of the GameWatch page with exception to the "it's an Empires game! first of its kind in the Sengoku Musou series! ooh! War! Excitement! AH!"
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Inspector Trout	Jul 5 2006, 04:46 AM Post #29
Scotland Yard Posts: 362 Group: Banned Member #100 Joined: October 16, 2005	Lord_Dragon Jul 5 2006, 03:12 AM Neo Juste Belmont Jul 4 2006, 09:56 PM If September 2006 is the release date.... does this mean the US version of SW2 is going to be delayed again? What does the SW2:E getting release in Japan have to do with the NA version of SW2? nothing.



SlickSlicer	Jul 5 2006, 05:33 AM Post #30
Unregistered	Uh...who the hell will Koei use for the clans of the West. Besides the Shimazu of course... Quote: Well the clan that was in Hokkaido was only installed in the south anyways. The Matsumae I mean. Still though I don't think it would be pointful to add that clan or the Hokkaido to the game except in an expansion like Empires. Well the clan that was in Hokkaido was only installed in the south anyways. The Matsumae I mean. Still though I don't think it would be pointful to add that clan or the Hokkaido to the game except just for an Empires expansion...
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Neo Juste Belmont	Jul 5 2006, 05:36 AM Post #31
Trinity of SRW Originals Posts: 1,895 Group: Members Member #1,164 Joined: March 20, 2006	Nouhime Jul 5 2006, 09:20 AM Uh okay let me clear this up again.. three links were posted inregards to this? Official site - http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/sengoku2e/ Game Watch - http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/2...704/sengoku.htm IGN - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/716/716438p1.html expected release date is written on the official site and Game Watch. It states... September 2006. That is all. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE US RELEASE DATE. THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT GAME RELEASES. More stuff: Release info. There will be 3 different 'packages': just the XL game (4494 yen), XL Treasure Box (7280 yen), Sengoku Musou 2 + XL premium box (8400 yen). That is all that the information released at the moment. The end. Anymore weird things about "ooh the US release is going to be pushed bacckk bahblahblah!!!" will end up with this thread being closed because i'm mean. What i've written here is basically a translation of the GameWatch page with exception to the "it's an Empires game! first of its kind in the Sengoku Musou series! ooh! War! Excitement! AH!" Just a second here. XL? I thought it's about Empires?
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Nouhime	Jul 5 2006, 06:05 AM Post #32
Dea Tacita Posts: 1,070 Group: Members Member #214 Joined: December 16, 2005	Neo Juste Belmont Jul 5 2006, 04:36 AM Just a second here. XL? I thought it's about Empires? ah, a typo. Thanks for catching that. I'll go edit my post now. <3
	「我が日輪の申し子サンヂー、見るがいい～！」 Shima Sakon is my hero.


BlackKite	Jul 5 2006, 11:49 AM Post #33
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object. Posts: 4,023 Group: Admins Member #38 Joined: August 26, 2005 Gender Male	I know they're going to make this.. a direct competitor to Sengoku BASARA... But still, if they make the Chousokabe & Mouri daimyo generics, I'd rather play SB2 anyday. Oh, and I suppose the rumour that there will be no XL for SW2 is true... I had seen an interview with the director, where he was asked whether there will be the usual XL or not, and he said he didn't think so.
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Neo Juste Belmont	Jul 5 2006, 12:38 PM Post #34
Trinity of SRW Originals Posts: 1,895 Group: Members Member #1,164 Joined: March 20, 2006	Of course you play SB2 differently than SB1. SB2 has STORY MODE not CONQUEST mode. It's a different league. That's why I can take it that 'Chousokabe and Mouri daimyos are generics' acceptable in SW2, but if they stay generic in Empires... That's a crime. But I'll still play SW series any day. Not until Capcom removes their anti-Tokugawa bias and give more non-generic Tokugawa characters.
	Tokugawa Ieyasu would like to say: "Kidnap me NOW, would you? HA!" Sig by BlackKite. Arigato. And one more thing: Spoiler: click to toggle There is no Date Masamune in KOEI. Only an ass-kisser wuss.


BlackKite	Jul 5 2006, 12:48 PM Post #35
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object. Posts: 4,023 Group: Admins Member #38 Joined: August 26, 2005 Gender Male	Neo Juste Belmont Jul 5 2006, 06:38 PM Of course you play SB2 differently than SB1. SB2 has STORY MODE not CONQUEST mode. It's a different league. That's why I can take it that 'Chousokabe and Mouri daimyos are generics' acceptable in SW2, but if they stay generic in Empires... That's a crime. In case you haven't read the recent breaking news yet, SB2 will retain the Conquest mode. :rolleyes:
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Hondam	Jul 5 2006, 01:05 PM Post #36
轟 Posts: 4,228 Group: Members Member #46 Joined: August 30, 2005 Gender Male	Sengoku BASARA has already done what Koei has failed in. Win it has.
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Inspector Trout	Jul 5 2006, 01:13 PM Post #37
Scotland Yard Posts: 362 Group: Banned Member #100 Joined: October 16, 2005	here are the characters that should make they're grand debut before XL: new characters: William Adams Jan Joosten van Lodensteijn Luis Frois Muneyoshi Yagyu Munenori Yagyu Akane Yagyu Ohatsu Ekei Ankokuji Hideyasu Yuki Yodo Hidemitsu Samanosuke Akechi Tenkai Nankobo Kennyo Honganji Katsuie Shibata Kojiro Sasaki returning: Goemon Ishikawa Yoshimoto Imagawa Katsuie,Kojiro,and Kennyo should get unique weapons instead of a generic Spear or Sword movesets.



Blue_Eyes_Oni	Jul 5 2006, 01:44 PM Post #38
Emperor's Retainer Posts: 2,083 Group: Moderators Member #200 Joined: December 8, 2005 Gender Male	If there is no new playable characters in this game, then I'm not buying it... <_<



Rigochu	Jul 5 2006, 03:19 PM Post #39
First Lieutenant Posts: 115 Group: Members Member #2,046 Joined: May 24, 2006	Quote: Uh...who the hell will Koei use for the clans of the West. Besides the Shimazu of course... Mori, Otomo maybe or Ryuzoji maybe even Ukita since they played a role in sekigahara..
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The Red Tiger	Jul 5 2006, 05:41 PM Post #40
Hmph..... Posts: 161 Group: Members Member #184 Joined: November 27, 2005	Hey Hans, when they say western warriors I think they mean the ones from japan.....or did they do something too? (the ones you listed) Also, maybe Samurai Warriors: Empires could come out in November....but its just a guess.
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Moonlit Midnight	Jul 5 2006, 06:20 PM Post #41
Silent Night. Silent Death Posts: 315 Group: Members Member #1,210 Joined: March 25, 2006	I think this is so wierd! NA hasn't even gotten SW2 and they are already planning on Empires. Actually now that I think of it, I guess they are starting now so they don't delay us again. Anyway, I think adding more non-generic characters will add more confusion since there would be like a million different clans and a million different officers, it would be like DW series except more clans, more characters, and Japanese style. I don't think I can get every single character into my head. I like this game not only because it is fun to battle in war, but because every character is unique and has their own style and story, but if you keep adding all these characters then it will be so confusing to follow each and every story. WOW! that was probably the longest i wrote in a reply.



LoW	Jul 5 2006, 07:34 PM Post #42
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,439 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	How many regions do you guys expect to see? I don't know that much about the areas in Japan, but I hope to see more than 25 regions. Well, I'm hoping to see at least unique NPC models for characters like Motochika Chosokabe, Motonari Mouri and Ujimasa Hojo. Otherwise it's going to be a battle between regular NPCs and few playable characters :(.
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BlackKite	Jul 5 2006, 07:51 PM Post #43
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object. Posts: 4,023 Group: Admins Member #38 Joined: August 26, 2005 Gender Male	Well, there were approx. 60 provinces during Sengoku Jidai.. perhaps about 30 should do. But as for the NPCs.. save Kennyo Honganji and Yoshimoto Imagawa, I fear all the other daimyo including Shikoku-Chugoku ones will just remain generic.. like what they did in DW:E games, keeping generic rulers like Zan Gongsun, Teng Ma, Zhang Liu and Biao Liu as generics after all.... ....... ..man, why do I feel weird.... ... [/ura mode] ..HEY!?! Since when did the Ura mode activate?? \(;O.O)/
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SlickSlicer	Jul 5 2006, 09:59 PM Post #44
Unregistered	Rigochu Jul 5 2006, 02:19 PM Quote: Uh...who the hell will Koei use for the clans of the West. Besides the Shimazu of course... Mori, Otomo maybe or Ryuzoji maybe even Ukita since they played a role in sekigahara.. I know but my point is that none of them will be playable. It will be kind of stupid to have one side of Japan be all NPCs and the other be all playable factions fighting for dominance...
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Neo Juste Belmont	Jul 5 2006, 11:52 PM Post #45
Trinity of SRW Originals Posts: 1,895 Group: Members Member #1,164 Joined: March 20, 2006	BlackKite Jul 5 2006, 06:48 PM Neo Juste Belmont Jul 5 2006, 06:38 PM Of course you play SB2 differently than SB1. SB2 has STORY MODE not CONQUEST mode. It's a different league. That's why I can take it that 'Chousokabe and Mouri daimyos are generics' acceptable in SW2, but if they stay generic in Empires... That's a crime. In case you haven't read the recent breaking news yet, SB2 will retain the Conquest mode. :rolleyes: I was about to edit that one, but it was already too night and I had to share computer with my bro and sleep. No fair. >_> Speaking of Otomo, this could be a chance to Koei to make use of Ginchiyo's role where she temporarily led the Otomo clan. That means there are 2 Western 'leaders' currently: Yoshihiro and Ginchiyo. But I still want Mori and Chosokabe. There's also one thing that kept me liking Koei more than Capcom: The presence of Hikaru Midorikawa, who is still unused by Capcom despite his role as a Gundam Pilot, namely Heero Yuy. Why is that? Because he's my all time favorite seiyuu.
	Tokugawa Ieyasu would like to say: "Kidnap me NOW, would you? HA!" Sig by BlackKite. Arigato. And one more thing: Spoiler: click to toggle There is no Date Masamune in KOEI. Only an ass-kisser wuss.


lmay19	Jul 8 2006, 01:38 AM Post #46
;p Posts: 2,740 Group: Members Member #246 Joined: January 2, 2006	Finally back! Anyways, back to business! I have a bad feeling about empires all of a sudden... It will either have few territories with few unique inhabitants, or too many territories with too many generics. Hans Gruber Jul 5 2006, 02:18 AM Neo Juste Belmont Jul 5 2006, 02:56 AM If September 2006 is the release date.... does this mean the US version of SW2 is going to be delayed again? no and no! Your post was pointless. Hans Gruber Jul 5 2006, 03:46 AM Lord_Dragon Jul 5 2006, 03:12 AM Neo Juste Belmont Jul 4 2006, 09:56 PM If September 2006 is the release date.... does this mean the US version of SW2 is going to be delayed again? What does the SW2:E getting release in Japan have to do with the NA version of SW2? nothing. Once again, pointless spam. Hans Gruber Jul 5 2006, 12:13 PM here are the characters that should make they're grand debut before XL: new characters: William Adams Jan Joosten van Lodensteijn Luis Frois Muneyoshi Yagyu Munenori Yagyu Akane Yagyu Ohatsu Ekei Ankokuji Hideyasu Yuki Yodo Hidemitsu Samanosuke Akechi Tenkai Nankobo Kennyo Honganji Katsuie Shibata Kojiro Sasaki returning: Goemon Ishikawa Yoshimoto Imagawa Katsuie,Kojiro,and Kennyo should get unique weapons instead of a generic Spear or Sword movesets. Er, XL? What are you talking about? When was there news of an XL? And uh, Ohatsu? She's a fictional Capcom character from Onimusha: DoD. Where's Mouri when you need him...



BlackKite	Jul 8 2006, 07:18 AM Post #47
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object. Posts: 4,023 Group: Admins Member #38 Joined: August 26, 2005 Gender Male	No. Hatsu-neesan was real. The second daughter of Ichi, she was married to Kyougoku Takatsugu, an Oda retainer. ----- And thanks to one of your quotes, Jin, you remind me of something... XD [ura mode] How about adding DW characters as secret characters for this game? Such as Bei Liu, Mengde Cao Cao, Jian Sun, Yun Zhao, Yu Guan, Fei Zhang, Zhong Huang, Chao Ma, Dun Xiahou, Yuan Xiahou, Liao Zhang, Huang Xu, He Zhang, Meng Lu, Ning Gan, Tong Ling, Gai Huang, Tai Zhou, Yue Ying Huang, Zhen, Shang Xiang Sun.... etc. ....but.. oh wait, that's for the PSP version. Putting these on the console versions won't do good. Sorry, my bad. please ignore this. [/ura mode]
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KOEI Warriors	Jul 8 2006, 10:54 AM Post #48
_root.admin Posts: 0 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: August 11, 2005	Finally it's announced... I knew this is going to be happened 3 months ago and finally it's coming!! Wahahahaa!!!



Xing	Jul 8 2006, 10:59 AM Post #49
Fishing for Dynasty Warriors! :O Posts: 153 Group: Members Member #111 Joined: October 18, 2005	Yay for you guys! Though I wonder if SW 2 Empires is similar to DW5's Empires? (Sorry I don't own a PS 2 so I would not know =_=;; but I seen my friend played DW 5 Empires so ... >_>)



lmay19	Jul 8 2006, 06:57 PM Post #50
;p Posts: 2,740 Group: Members Member #246 Joined: January 2, 2006	BlackKite Jul 8 2006, 06:18 AM No. Hatsu-neesan was real. The second daughter of Ichi, she was married to Kyougoku Takatsugu, an Oda retainer. She was real? o.0 Then is it true that she took shooting lessons from Magoichi? 0.o BlackKite And thanks to one of your quotes, Jin, you remind me of something... XD [ura mode] How about adding DW characters as secret characters for this game? Such as Bei Liu, Mengde Cao Cao, Jian Sun, Yun Zhao, Yu Guan, Fei Zhang, Zhong Huang, Chao Ma, Dun Xiahou, Yuan Xiahou, Liao Zhang, Huang Xu, He Zhang, Meng Lu, Ning Gan, Tong Ling, Gai Huang, Tai Zhou, Yue Ying Huang, Zhen, Shang Xiang Sun.... etc. ....but.. oh wait, that's for the PSP version. Putting these on the console versions won't do good. Sorry, my bad. please ignore this. [/ura mode] Ecksdee Alex went ura. But we dun want DW in this game. If any, I'm sure they probably put Lu Bu in or Zhao Yun. :rolleyes:



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