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| Samurai Warriors 2: Empires; Japan is in your hands! | |
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| COCONUT MILK | Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:33 pm Post #976 |
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First Lieutenant
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If I could find it in the shops I would buy it, but it's never there. |
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| MoxManiac | Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:14 pm Post #977 |
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SW2:E is a shining example of what the peon AI in SW2/XL should have been. |
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| SnowMan | Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:10 am Post #978 |
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"This is no good, no good at all."
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Everybody talks about how much better the A.I. is in this game, but I just don't see it. Maybe I'm just oblivious to it, but can you give me some examples on how they're smarter? |
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| StrikeForce9 | Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:53 am Post #979 |
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Pink-Eyed Cyborg
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The Allies' AI is better in this game than in the original. They can protect themselves and the bases that you tell them to guard. They can even take a base if the morale is high and our army is bigger in size. And if they think they are unable to win or nearly lose, they retreat. Unlike in DW5E I tell my allies to attack, they just go and get themselves killed (suicide). |
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| SnowMan | Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:56 am Post #980 |
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"This is no good, no good at all."
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Ahh, yes, I remember now. They are amazing. Thanks for reminding me.
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| Fayt | Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:38 pm Post #981 |
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I think it's just the nature of the Empires game which makes it more difficult, the enemies when weakened tend to retreat to a base and take on a more defensive approach making progress more difficult. In that regard they are certainly smarter and it in turn gives a more generous difficulty. I freaking love Empires titles, I like them more then the standard and XL pacts in fact. Too bad this wasn't released after SW2XL and the additional characters added to it, even if Kojiro & Katsuie are 'somewhat' unique in it. If any more Warriors Empires packs come out in the future I'll be purchasing them in a heartbeat. Both SW2E & DW5E were awesome games I played many times.
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| Twilight Sky | Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:16 pm Post #982 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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Just my opinion but the absence of CAW in SW2:XL pretty much makes SW2:E superior to both games. I like how KOEI is imposing their will on the people who you know might not wanna use the default characters =p. |
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| PostalOrder | Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:26 pm Post #983 |
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Tiger General
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From what I remember, the SW2E CAW was total cr@p though... |
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| Sanada | Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:29 pm Post #984 |
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its pretty bad, not too bad though. It at least allowed you to use the generic movesets
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| PostalOrder | Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:38 pm Post #985 |
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Tiger General
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Any CAW system that forbids you from using certain weapons based on something as inane as GENDER (if they let you use the weapons at all) isn't worth the bother of including it in the first place. |
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| SRS | Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:54 pm Post #986 |
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A. Dunno about what you're doing differently, but I often see the other side of Japan owned by a guy with at least five or more territories. B. You can't blame Koei for putting in major clans that don't have unique representation in SW. Blame history? I'm actually quite happy to see them map filled with as many clans as possible, because there were significant armies(Mori, Chosokabe, Mogami, etc.) in those territories doing their thing, not to mention several of them were the clans the unique characters fought for(Ginchiyo for Otomo, Masamune for Date before he became the ruler, Magoichi for Suzuki before he became head.) I never liked seeing those huge open spaces in the DW Empires games, myself. C. Don't play on Ruler conditions. Switch to Isolate or Conquer(was that the name? I forgot) so you can only win by completely surrounding the enemy daimyo's territory first before attacking, or complete annihilation, respectively. Enemy rulers only stay in their beginning territory in the Ruler mode. |
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| Twilight Sky | Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:44 pm Post #987 |
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Emperor's Retainer
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I take back what I said. SW2:XL owns SW2E. I killed more people in one stage than I could do in 5 in SW2:E. Back to back 1000+ kills is worthy of my praise. The enemies do less running away and there is some fun scenarios for me to pick besides empire mode>divided land. If anything SW2 original can GTFO. |
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| jfty.009260 | Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:44 pm Post #988 |
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I have this game and I think that it's quite good, but not on par with the original. In SW2, there was so much things to do and so much peons to hack, hack and slash. The best thing about SW2:E was the AI, but I didn't like how they could easily kill you even on Normal difficulty when you haven't started building up your characters. |
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| Twilight Sky | Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:01 pm Post #989 |
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That doesn't change even after you break the stats cap. The only way you have a chance of "barely" holding your own is through atk/def policies. |
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| Skode | Wed Apr 2, 2008 6:00 pm Post #990 |
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King of KW
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If i remember correctly are there not conditions required to unlock this for activation. Its been so long since i originally done everything i could with this game i cant remember, still standing against time anoll - good game. |
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| SnowMan | Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:58 pm Post #991 |
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1 - They just never bother attacking, I don't know why. 2 - I don't blame anyone for this, since I realize that there were important people of the era that aren't unique in the SW games. It's just that I don't know the Sengoku period that well. I'm fine with the DW generics since I am much more familiar with the Three Kingdoms era. 3- You're right, I should play with that mode. But you have to admit that it's dumb that rulers never move from their original spots. DW5E was much better when it came to board movement. I didn't have to put it on Isolate back then. |
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| SRS | Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:50 pm Post #992 |
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DW5E did the same thing on Ruler, though. One time I started next to Cao Cao, allied with him, and years later he and I both had control over most of China... and he had never moved from his capital Xu Chang despite my letting the alliance run out for several seasons. Defeated him, instant win. |
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| SnowMan | Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:32 pm Post #993 |
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That happens sometimes, but most of the time I played it the enemy ruler always moved out of dodge. |
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| LeonaOkami | Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:25 am Post #994 |
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Eh, rented SW2E.. played it a while.. got bored.. took it back. I dunno. Something about getting so far, then having to start all over again and again kindof drains me. The tactics were interesting though. Still, I'm mad at my brother for wasting his money and buying it for the 360. Should of spent that on getting DW6 sooner than we did. Not dragging down anyone; we all have different tastes. Mine's just not for the Empires games. I like having things in storymodes. Even if they aren't very close to history, they're closer than what you end up with in most Empires scenarios. |
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| Nanar | Tue May 20, 2008 5:01 pm Post #995 |
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sw2e is the best empires game to date. i have played this game at least 25 times already. i played everysingle senario but the one i like best is free for all. i have all charecters unlocked, i have the three best horses, almost unlocked the artwork. i still need quite a few funny stories unlocked thou. and i still need some movies unlocked.. gee after 25 play throughs, you'd think i got everything by now but i dont'.. that sucks.... EDIT: ok everyone here is a trick that i have done many many times. to get the 4th weapon the first time around. you need to make everyone of your allies , when the battle is near end, to attack the enemy leader. while that is happening, you go around and kill the peons that pop up or spawn in and around the enemy main camp. do this untill there is only 3 or 2 minutes remaining after you rack up 500 kills, then go kill the commander. then you'll have your 4th weapon. i have done this many times and a few times i got 1000 kills so i got the badge and the weapon. now, after you won the 4th weapon, and you play again, all you need to do is kill 100-200 enemies to get the weapon for that charecter. |
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| Oblivion | Wed May 21, 2008 12:30 pm Post #996 |
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Aimless Wanderer
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AI was at it's peak, but the fact the CAW wasn't that great and there was no ending edit, one of my favorite features for empire games wasn't present, I was dissapointed.
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| Fayt | Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:11 am Post #997 |
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Sakon, has left the topic.
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I still love this game, and still play it from time to time. I always enjoy starting from scratch (eliminating carry offer officer growth), and trying to build my army from a different position/army/time frame to keep renewing the challenge of the game. I also really enjoy how every battle I can use someone different, it helps keep it fairly fresh for me. (Just I now miss the SW2XL characters missing from it...) Quick question for you fellow SW2E players, what two tactics to you prefer to use the most? (On both Offense & Defense missions?) |
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| Oblivion | Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:32 am Post #998 |
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I think I used Neutral Start the most, then Equal Start, sometimes I hire units like Wind Ninjas but thats about as much tactics as I use... For some reason, when I play Empire, if I recruit lets say, Yoshihiro Shimazu, I try to recruit his whole family and hopefully, his whole army, its just something I do in Empires. |
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| Ultimate Legend | Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:01 pm Post #999 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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Yeah,I do that too.Especially with Shimazu since their clan is large.Others are the Date,Takeda,and Hojo. Nominate for Sticky. |
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| Wei-Yan | Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:41 pm Post #1000 |
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Rebellious Wei-Yan
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has anyone noticed that Naomasa Ii in the games always wears red armour instead of blue like the rest of the tokugawa are they trying to say something there and he had to events with Tadakatsu aswell well one of them all the tokugawa avengers were in it the other was just him and tadakatsu i have 3 question has anyone got the From Father to Son event Have Yukimura Sanada and Masayuki Sanada enter a battle together while in the same army second question Greater Than Mitsunari event Finish a battle with Mitsunari Ishida and Sakon Shima in your attacking army (Mitsunari and Sakon may have to be the only two officers in you army i have tried the first one don't know how many times and the sakon-ishida one i have done attacking and defending with only using them two. does ishida have to be the lord. third question when u get to rank 2 how do u get to rank 1 i've done it once whats the best way |
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