Why is everyone hating the CAW system?

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Why is everyone hating the CAW system?; in Empires
Topic Started: Dec 12 2006, 09:33 AM (1,679 Views)
God-Like Phoenix	Apr 29 2007, 03:37 AM Post #51
Mercenary General Posts: 3,521 Group: Moderators Member #5,908 Joined: March 5, 2007 Gender Male	how long is that away though, so why dont we just stay in this time period, i rekon the created characters are all right, theyre especially good, cause theyre mine
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Danion	Apr 29 2007, 09:38 AM Post #52
- Posts: 375 Group: Banned Member #6,950 Joined: April 21, 2007	The CAW is fine to me,the charachter models are pretty cool.



Seruso	May 3 2007, 02:01 AM Post #53
Victorious Dragon Posts: 206 Group: Members Member #5,527 Joined: February 11, 2007 Gender Male	Because in the CAW mode the character is "already create" you only out your name and choose a weapon



Tenkoshiro	May 22 2007, 12:46 AM Post #54
don't get too excited, i might leave again y'know Posts: 1,508 Group: Members Member #6,502 Joined: April 3, 2007 Gender Male	I hate it that they did not include Keiji, Oichi, Kotarou, Mitsuhide, Shingen, Kenshin's weapons!
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Zhu Rong	May 23 2007, 01:56 PM Post #55
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digorthiss	Jan 18 2008, 02:52 PM Post #56
First Lieutenant Posts: 142 Group: Members Member #11,687 Joined: December 8, 2007	The CAWs pretty good but it needs more added to it



Hojo Ujitaka	May 20 2008, 05:29 PM Post #57
General Posts: 332 Group: Members Member #15,022 Joined: April 25, 2008 Gender Male	i enjoy creating officers the only thing i do not like though is that you can't be everyone particularly no caw can be MITSUHIDE AKECHI Why? no fair... other then that i don't mind at all. oh and here is a list of names i used for my officers Matsu Maeda she was a body guard in sw2 Akira takarada an actor in Gojira movies Akira Kurosawa you all know him Kyoko Manabe she was the lady who was controled by the kiraku in destroy all monsters Megumi Odaka she was the actress that played as miki saegusa in the later godzilla movies Miki Saegusa she was same above. Kenji Shibata i wanted to create a brother for Katsuii Shibata. Fumiko Kosaka the name is awesome and i gaver her the magoichi weapon. Kumi Mizuno she was an actress in gojira movies also..
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Astus	May 21 2008, 06:16 AM Post #58
Frakkin' Toaster Posts: 2,755 Group: Admins Member #8,568 Joined: July 17, 2007 Gender Male	I personally think that DW5: E had a MUCH better CAW than SW2: E, Because DW gave you the option to customise your character much more than SW, and DW had unique models rather than the generic ones of SW... Hopefully in SW3, a CAW akin to the one they had in SW1 is included but of course much more customised and worked upon.
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KOEI Warriors	May 21 2008, 06:39 AM Post #59
_root.admin Posts: 0 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: August 11, 2005	CAW in SW2E is really a disappointment, they concentrated more on the strategy part of the game. It would be good if the customization was as good as DW5E one.



Seraphil	May 21 2008, 06:56 AM Post #60
稲が成敗いたします！ Posts: 3,830 Group: Moderators Member #1,112 Joined: March 16, 2006 Gender Male	The only thing truly better about DW5E's CAW is much more choices for females. CAW strengths DW5E: -More clothing/face/hair choices -Change size of character -Can pick any player character's weapon SW2E: -Can choose from generic models -Almost twice as many color choices -Can pick from 4 voices rather than DW's 3 -Can pick generic officer's weapons -Can pick stat growth -(limited) customizable abilities CAW weaknesses DW5E: -Many clothing/face/hair choices sucked -HORRIBLE voice selection(worst thing here, even more so since the Japanese CAW voices were mostly great; It sucks ass to have ALL of my females have the Innocent voice, but it's the only decent one! Even worse is I loved Relaxed in Japanese [very regal, princess-like voice] but the English one[bored whore] is even worse than the difference between SW1's Nouhime voice in Japanese and English! :() -NO customization for stats(second worst thing here!) SW2E: -Lacks customization for clothing/face/hair beyond preset models(color can still be changed however) -Some officer weapons are not usable --- Is the look of your character so important that you would sacrifice: good voice choices and the ability to customize stat growth and special abilities? DW4E's CAW was better than DW5E and SW2E both, anyway. SW2E at least managed to keep most of what was good from it instead of discarding it all for just good looks.
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SlickSlicer	May 21 2008, 09:32 AM Post #61
- Posts: 3,367 Group: Banned Member #7,082 Joined: April 29, 2007	Quote: Is the look of your character so important that you would sacrifice: good voice choices and the ability to customize stat growth and special abilities? Yes it is. I've never cared that much about voices and, to be honest, stat growth is hardly all that important in a game where you just cut down tons of enemies. How cool your warrior looks, though, is.



Crimsondramon	May 21 2008, 09:34 AM Post #62
Ujiyasu is not impressed Posts: 5,567 Group: Global Moderators Member #5,870 Joined: March 1, 2007 Gender Male	Maybe KOEI should go look at other games CAW or whatever their equivalent names are... Like Soul Calibur III for example? I think it was quite decent...and don't get me started on PREVIOUS WWE games..those were quite good, now aint that good.
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CyberSynaptic	May 22 2008, 12:41 AM Post #63
Elite Soldier Posts: 35 Group: Members Member #14,659 Joined: April 11, 2008	I didn't really hate the CAW system in Empires, but I was peeved at the serious lack of options when it came to your character's appearance. If they gave as many options as they did in DW5XL (minus the lame male face and hair options), then I would've been pretty satisfied with it.



Amakusa	May 22 2008, 05:42 AM Post #64
General Posts: 223 Group: Members Member #8,248 Joined: July 1, 2007	Crimsondramon May 21 2008, 08:34 AM Maybe KOEI should go look at other games CAW or whatever their equivalent names are... Like Soul Calibur III for example? I think it was quite decent...and don't get me started on PREVIOUS WWE games..those were quite good, now aint that good. Eh... I thought Soul Calibur III's character creation got really lame after a while. Most of the faces on that game sucked. While it was decent to re-creating characters for other games I hardly felt I was creating a character that really belonged in the game (but then, Soul Calibur hasn't actually been good gameplay-wise since the first Soul Calibur).



Lord_Redhand	May 22 2008, 06:28 AM Post #65
General Posts: 231 Group: Members Member #7,322 Joined: May 12, 2007	Becuase compared to DW 5: Empires it was limiting.
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Hojo Ujitaka	Jun 7 2008, 11:51 PM Post #66
General Posts: 332 Group: Members Member #15,022 Joined: April 25, 2008 Gender Male	those are valid weaknesses and strengths to most they would agree. including myself. however , i kinda enjoyed all caw creation. it just added more players to choose from. and sw caw had the chance to have generic generals created. if dw does that that would be cool. but like i said i like caw creation so it makes no difference to me what things they have and don't have for them.
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MasterofMusou	Jul 15 2008, 02:29 PM Post #67
You are already in my genjutsu. Posts: 1,358 Group: Members Member #16,014 Joined: June 7, 2008 Gender Male	I liked the CAW in DW5 XL/Empires better.However SW2 Empires had some good options in it to. What I would like to see is some unique movesets(Like Fu Xi and Nu Wa,considering their not in DW games anymore).At least 5 would be good.Some extra options like DW5XL and it would've been great!
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Chosis	Jul 15 2008, 03:21 PM Post #68
First Lieutenant Posts: 143 Group: Members Member #14,415 Joined: April 1, 2008	Sengoku Robo Samuraioh May 21 2008, 05:56 AM The only thing truly better about DW5E's CAW is much more choices for females. Is the look of your character so important that you would sacrifice: good voice choices and the ability to customize stat growth and special abilities? DW4E's CAW was better than DW5E and SW2E both, anyway.� SW2E at least managed to keep most of what was good from it instead of discarding it all for just good looks. SW2E not-so-strengths: -Can choose from generic models The premise behind making an officer is to have the freedom to look different. How is being able to make your supposedly original warrior look exactly like everyone else a strength? -Almost twice as many color choices That's a result of the way the game's structured. In DW5, there are six major forces: Shu, Wei, Wu, Yellows, Dong Zhuo's and Lu Bu's. In SW there's around twice that. -Can pick generic officer's weapons Again, how is this a good thing? The generic officer's movelists are restricting and weak compared to a main characters'. -Can pick stat growth Redundant, because DW doesn't implement an experience mechanic, relying on stat improvement items. In the end you're choosing how your character is improved by what items you pick up. DW5XL not-so-weaknesses -Many clothing/face/hair choices sucked That's entirely your opinion, I liked the selection here. -HORRIBLE voice selection Not only entirely opinionated, but wholly redundant. You're playing a Warriors game; most of the main characters' voices are awful. -NO customization for stats(second worst thing here!) Incorrect. DW doesn't implement an experience mechanic, relying on stat improvement items. In the end you're choosing how your character is improved by what items you pick up. As for your final point: no matter which one you prefer, by the time we reach endgame with a character their stats will be exactly the same as the next guy: totally maxed out. The only point of difference will be, weapons aside, how the character looks. I'd rather an original edited officer than a generic one.



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