Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Hello and welcome to KOEI Warriors (Forum), the official leading Rank 1 forum of ZetaBoards free online service of thousands of message boards aimed at video gaming; specifically the best KOEI TECMO fan site online! With over 35,000 forum members already a part of the community and millions of comments recorded! Thank you for visiting, we hope you enjoy the message board!

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. By signing up and experiencing KOEI Warriors message board you will have access to features that are member-only such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, voting in recognized polls, and more importantly discussion and the latest news from KOEI TECMO with fellow fans of their products. Our Members Only section via joining will grant you KOEI Warriors graphics, downloads and more.

We also have social network pages on Facebook, Twitter and a videos channel on YouTube, so please find us there.

If you need any help please don't hesitate to ask a member of staff/moderator. Thank you.


Regards,
KOEI Warriors Staff Team


Join our community at KOEI Warriors (Forum)!

Already a member? Welcome back, please login here and enjoy KOEI Warriors (Forum).

Username:   Password:
Locked Topic
Warriors Orochi (Musou Orochi); DW and SW combined!
Topic Started: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:28 am (43,745 Views)
OneWingedAngel
Elite Soldier
[ *  * ]
BlackKite
Feb 8 2007, 06:42 AM
OBJECTION!!

There is a flaw in your list...

Quote:
 

Nagamasa - 1
Yoshihiro - 2
Tadakatsu - 3
Ina - 4
Kanetsugu - 5
Sakon - 6
Hideyoshi - 6

Nene - 7
Musashi - 8
Ieyasu - 9
Mitsunari - 10
Ginchiyo - 11
Yoshimoto - 12
Kotaro - 13*

That, is clearly a contradiction. the SW2 section is actually 10 new SW2 characters + 4 SWXL characters = 14.

That means, if the 15 character limit is present, only one of the SW NPCs (Kojirou/Katsuie/Kennyo) will fit, and that's unlikely. Besides, Kojirou & Katsuie aren't original in SM2E: They're using CAW weapons, and their movesets are mixed from other character's movesets.

My bad. SW2E hasn't been released yet here in the states so i wasnt aware that Kojiro and Katsuie were CAW. Haven't been able to find anything listing their movesets online in a language i could read. And i hadn't noticed the numbering flaw.

However (yes i know, its a long shot) if you look at the pics of the character select screens with Kunoichi and Goemon in the center it's obvious that the Selections are on an infinate scroll. It could be that the 15 char. limit is something we're assuming and that there are more characters "hidden" at the ends of the list. It wouldn't be the first time a game did that. And if they're reworking the movesets of the characters that didnt make the SW2 cut and the DW movesets, it's possible they would give Kojiro and Katsuie their own sets while they're at it.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
BlackKite
Member Avatar
長宗我部菜々

Hmm... If you put it that way, that could be possible...

But I still doubt it. KOEI seemed to put in a screenshot from the seemingly 100% cleared game (Everything unlocked and maxed out)

And we can confirm already that the SW1 section only covers the first 15 SW1 characters, from Yukimura to Ranmaru.
I guess we should wait for a screenshot of SW2 section.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Kairal
Officer
[ *  * ]
Most likely they'll just add a few new specials (like 5-6) and then re-use a whole ton of them.

Blackkite just how much Phoenix wright have you been playing? My copy of JFA still hasn't arrived yet :(

Some of the screenshots show some of the same coloured characters in the same team. Doesn't look like you'll need one of each.

PS Any particular reasons you think those character will be forced to fight for Orochi?

Anyway I guess they'll divide the Sengoku people into 2 teams of 14 with Kotaro joining Orochi.

I guess they'll have the Oda (with all the Toyotomi) + Takeda (without Sakon) + Uesugi which is exactly 14 officers.

Then they'll have Tokugawa organizing everyone else (i.e Azai, Date etc.) which also equals 14.

I figure Kojiro, Katsuie and Kennyo won't be in it at all.

Alternatively swap the Toyotomi for Tokugawa.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
BlackKite
Member Avatar
長宗我部菜々

Kairal
Feb 8 2007, 03:11 PM
Blackkite just how much Phoenix wright have you been playing? My copy of JFA still hasn't arrived yet :(

Hmm... I've done both the first & the second.
Quote:
 
Anyway I guess they'll divide the Sengoku people into 2 teams of 14 with Kotaro joining Orochi.

It's been confirmed that the Sengoku people are grouped by prequel-sequel.
The first group consists of the 15 SW1 characters (From Yukimura to Ranmaru)
The second one will most likely consist of 4 SWXL characters + 10 SW2 characters.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Tenka Musou
Member Avatar
Kabuki Mono
[ *  * ]
Quote:
 
Well then Potato, Koei sure has their work cut out for them  ; changing all 48 DW movesets to SW's level. And Yoshimoto & the others.



If they don't make any new animations that part is easy, they mix a DW character's moves with moves from SW characters to make a new moveset. By that pic with Zhao Yun doing Yukimura's C4 stab chain, methinks they'll be doing just that.

As for Yoshimoto, Kunoichi and Goemon; they can simply remain charge type.

Milking anything to the last of its usefulness is the way for anything with programming.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Azai Nagamasa
Member Avatar
Ragnarok Online Kicks j00 Ass and WoW's ASS =3
[ *  *  *  * ]
BlackKite
Feb 8 2007, 06:42 AM
OBJECTION!!

There is a flaw in your list...

Quote:
 

Nagamasa - 1
Yoshihiro - 2
Tadakatsu - 3
Ina - 4
Kanetsugu - 5
Sakon - 6
Hideyoshi - 6

Nene - 7
Musashi - 8
Ieyasu - 9
Mitsunari - 10
Ginchiyo - 11
Yoshimoto - 12
Kotaro - 13*

That, is clearly a contradiction. the SW2 section is actually 10 new SW2 characters + 4 SWXL characters = 14.

That means, if the 15 character limit is present, only one of the SW NPCs (Kojirou/Katsuie/Kennyo) will fit, and that's unlikely. Besides, Kojirou & Katsuie aren't original in SM2E: They're using CAW weapons, and their movesets are mixed from other character's movesets.

Just....a little question Who's Kennyo >.<....I dont remember him...thanks for the one who give me the Info

Offline Profile Goto Top
 
LittleDragonZ
Member Avatar
ReVeluv

Having Lu Bu and Tadakatsu together will make the game far too easy unless they:
1:Drastically increase the amount of soldiers.
2:Increase the difficulty base level or have another level above Chaos.
Online Profile Goto Top
 
BlackKite
Member Avatar
長宗我部菜々

Azai Nagamasa
Feb 8 2007, 08:27 PM
Just....a little question Who's Kennyo >.<....I dont remember him...thanks for the one who give me the Info

Honganji Kennyo... the most forgettable NPC in SW. After all, he only appeared in Magoichi's Musou story.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
OneWingedAngel
Elite Soldier
[ *  * ]
Any ideas what the treasure box on the character profiles would be? Secret 3rd costume maybe?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
KOEI Warriors
_root.admin

Well seriously I wonder what Nene will turn up to be, maybe she can turn to be Qiao or who? That must be fun!
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Hanzo Hattori
Member Avatar
Voracious
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I dreamed of something like this happening...

Some strange power sends the DW and SW world togethers and they both work to solve a problem. The entity or power tests them in various ways reannacting battles and such.

I cannot translate well, but what is this game about? I did see Kunoichi, Goemon, and Yoshimoto return though! Is is DW versus SW? Do you team up with them?

What is the plot?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Seirio
Member Avatar
....are you cursing at me in Jewish?
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
GO to the front page,look for what Insp.Chin put on his second update of MO.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Kairal
Officer
[ *  * ]
BlackKite
Feb 8 2007, 10:03 AM
Quote:
 
Anyway I guess they'll divide the Sengoku people into 2 teams of 14 with Kotaro joining Orochi.

It's been confirmed that the Sengoku people are grouped by prequel-sequel.
The first group consists of the 15 SW1 characters (From Yukimura to Ranmaru)
The second one will most likely consist of 4 SWXL characters + 10 SW2 characters.

The selection screens are grouped that way but since Wei are divided I guess it doesn't reflect the teams they'll be on. If it was SW1 vs SW2 that would lead to some pretty strange conflicts like Hanzo vs Tokugawa.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
BlackKite
Member Avatar
長宗我部菜々

Hmm.....

http://download1.gamecity.ne.jp/orochi/index.htm

Click at the TREASURE BOX thing at the bottom, it should lead you to a pop-up.

And on it... info regarding the Treasure box. It says: All Musou Character Pins... and there are 77 of them.

...I guess there goes the hope for Kojirou, Katsuie, Kennyo, Nu Wa & Fu Xi being present.
Especially the latter 2, since this is a fictional game, I don't see why KOEI shouldn't include those two.. :l
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Nouhime
Member Avatar
Dea Tacita
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
hark! i just posted that up on the KW front page haha >D

this is another link but it's to buy it.. it's the second one, just click on the blue text link.

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/shop/game/orochi/
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
XthemastaX
Member Avatar
Lu Bu's defeat has enraged Diaochan!
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Too bad this is gonna be the last PS2 game I think and I know a staff member will say this is spam
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Guan Yu's apprentice
Member Avatar
And so his first commander and boss has left this site.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I think that Fu Xi and Nu Wa will be commanders as they are technically god/goddess(thereby creating a clash of the Titans with the Chinese gods vs a Japanese demon) and they will appear in the game but you'll have to unlock them.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
pink_hchan
Member Avatar
The Hope of the Battlefield
[ *  *  *  * ]
I really want this game! Too bad it's not yet released in the North America. Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors rock!
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Tenka Musou
Member Avatar
Kabuki Mono
[ *  * ]
Yeah, if you'll wait for the american release, don't hold your breath. It's gonna be while.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Nevfx
Member Avatar
The mind shall vanquish the sword!
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Its not even out in Japan yet, and we don't even know if it will be out here yet. It probably will, though.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Simihe
Member Avatar
Tiger General
[ *  *  *  * ]
NO! We mustn't let the PS2 die before Sony kills it. Since most of us still can't afford PS3's until the price drop. Sony needs to stop thinking about the rich kids and start thinking about those with overhead and schooling btw. >_>;

And the game will be here. I have an odd feeling it might want to fight KH2FM in the Fall.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Tenka Musou
Member Avatar
Kabuki Mono
[ *  * ]
While I think any story conceived by Tetsuya Nomura isn't worth a halfpenny. KH2FM would probably annihilate this game, as far as sales go.

Koei needs to improve their marketing strategies.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
lmay19
Bundle of Crazy
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Back to the topic at hand. Thank you.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Azai Nagamasa
Member Avatar
Ragnarok Online Kicks j00 Ass and WoW's ASS =3
[ *  *  *  * ]
Btw I think Koei Doesnt Need to Improve their Marketing Strategies..not in Japan but Outside becuase People outside Japan Dont like that much Both Games.... but I think that musou Orochi is the best Thing that Koei can Make to be a Great gift for the Fans Arround the World :P
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Jsun
Member Avatar
KOEI Warriors Forever!
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Azai Nagamasa
Feb 13 2007, 06:42 AM
Btw I think Koei Doesnt Need to Improve their Marketing Strategies..not in Japan but Outside becuase People outside Japan Dont like that much Both Games.... but I think that musou Orochi is the best Thing that Koei can Make to be a Great gift for the Fans Arround the World :P

I agree, there are no advertisements in the US for their games and I know that they don't sell too many in the UK or bring the RTK series there. Musou Orochi I hope will be world wide.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Archives · Next Topic »
Locked Topic

Composed & Designed by, ©KOEI Warriors, 2005-2017. All rights reserved.