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Sex Education; Virginity, Age of Consent, and STDs
Topic Started: Sat Apr 7, 2007 6:48 pm (9,581 Views)
Rugal
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Oh geez.. losing your virginity at 12 years old? Seriously TWELVE YEARS FRIGGIN OLD? That is just sick, and repulsive. Some people should have their sexual organs removed. Like how they do to animals.
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Rugal
May 13 2008, 04:08 PM
Oh geez.. losing your virginity at 12 years old? Seriously TWELVE YEARS FRIGGIN OLD? That is just sick, and repulsive. Some people should have their sexual organs removed. Like how they do to animals.

Yeah, and while we're busy with removing other people's sexual organs: let's remove those of the mentally/physically handicapped as well. Oh, and those of alcoholics and gypsies. And henceforth, let it be known that it is forbidden for an Aryan person to have a relation with a Jewish person. The German Reich must remain pure! In fact, why don't we kill them all straight away? Saves us the trouble of removing organs.

Seriously, what the love is wrong with you? You seem to blame the kids, while it's pretty much the parents at fault as far as I'm concerned. I despise the modern day trend of parents failing to raise their kids properly and then blaming TV, music or games.

Think before you rape your keyboard. You know what's really sick? You being the judge over whether other people are worthy of their reproductive organs or not. Or degrading fellow people to 'animals'. You do know that both things you said were used in the Third Reich, do you?
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May 13 2008, 11:18 PM

Yeah, and while we're busy with removing other people's sexual organs: let's remove those of the mentally/physically handicapped as well. Oh, and those of alcoholics and gypsies. And henceforth, let it be known that it is forbidden for an Aryan person to have a relation with a Jewish person. The German Reich must remain pure! In fact, why don't we kill them all straight away? Saves us the trouble of removing organs.

Seriously, what the love is wrong with you? You seem to blame the kids, while it's pretty much the parents at fault as far as I'm concerned. I despise the modern day trend of parents failing to raise their kids properly and then blaming TV, music or games.

Think before you rape your keyboard. You know what's really sick? You being the judge over whether other people are worthy of their reproductive organs or not. Or degrading fellow people to 'animals'. You do know that both things you said were used in the Third Reich, do you?

You are both going fancy on your keyboard right now *waves around godwins law*

Ofcourse it seems a bit over the top to state that some kids shoudl lose their reproductive organs, although it is a fact that there are alot of babys born from way to young girls that 1: cant and wont ever raise their kids and 2: are still kids themselves.
In my town a 14 year old girl is pregnant, i find that a crime since the baby wont ever have a decent life, so what are you so high about against that jumping into defence mode emediatly, you should first think before you post.
Some kids indeed do deserve to lose their reproductive organs in situations in wich they are a loose bullet sexually, but they should get anesthesia's first.

Oh and yes you are right about parents being to blame, thats exactly why i find you shortsighted that you cant make the same link toward the kids that get a baby and would be irresponsible parents themselves.
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I think that if the two people that are involved in the sexual acts must face these responsibilities. In some societies it is part of their culture to have children before the age of 16. By stating that people who do have sex and give birth to babies under the age of 14 should lose their reproductive organs because of their age you are basically saying that they are wrong in their way of life.

To me I find that kind of ignorant. Our bodies are matured by the age of 15. People with too high morals usually look down upon people who get pregnant at those ages because they don't think they are ready for children because of their traditions or morals. There is a reason why the age of consent is different in many countries.

But did you ever think about the people who get raped and aren't allowed to have an abortion because of religious beliefs or forced to have the child. Like that girl who was raped by her father and had like 7 of his children. If anything I think people that rape women or (men) should be punished or have their balls removed. It is the most sickening and inhumane thing a person can do. That's why I think Japan is sick for putting that crap in most of their media.
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May 14 2008, 12:13 AM
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May 13 2008, 11:18 PM

Yeah, and while we're busy with removing other people's sexual organs: let's remove those of the mentally/physically handicapped as well. Oh, and those of alcoholics and gypsies. And henceforth, let it be known that it is forbidden for an Aryan person to have a relation with a Jewish person. The German Reich must remain pure! In fact, why don't we kill them all straight away? Saves us the trouble of removing organs.

Seriously, what the love is wrong with you? You seem to blame the kids, while it's pretty much the parents at fault as far as I'm concerned. I despise the modern day trend of parents failing to raise their kids properly and then blaming TV, music or games.

Think before you rape your keyboard. You know what's really sick? You being the judge over whether other people are worthy of their reproductive organs or not. Or degrading fellow people to 'animals'. You do know that both things you said were used in the Third Reich, do you?

You are both going fancy on your keyboard right now *waves around godwins law*

Ofcourse it seems a bit over the top to state that some kids shoudl lose their reproductive organs, although it is a fact that there are alot of babys born from way to young girls that 1: cant and wont ever raise their kids and 2: are still kids themselves.
In my town a 14 year old girl is pregnant, i find that a crime since the baby wont ever have a decent life, so what are you so high about against that jumping into defence mode emediatly, you should first think before you post.
Some kids indeed do deserve to lose their reproductive organs in situations in wich they are a loose bullet sexually, but they should get anesthesia's first.

Oh and yes you are right about parents being to blame, thats exactly why i find you shortsighted that you cant make the same link toward the kids that get a baby and would be irresponsible parents themselves.

Generally, I wipe my ass with Godwin's law. I don't even get why it's legitimate. Somebody says something comparable to what the Nazi's did, he's gonna get the comparison smacked in his face.

And don't you bloody tell me to think before I post. Not every 12/14-year old kid who is sexually active gets knocked up. There's a thing like anticonception. You're making it seem like there are hundreds of 12-year old girls are getting knocked up every minute and they all flush their babies down the toilet.

Also, I find it shortsighted that you automatically assume that every teenager would be an irresponsible parent. Sure, getting kids loves up their life (if they don't choose for abortion/adoption, and there are always people wanting to adopt a kid) but that's their own choice, as long as the kid doesn't feel the repercussions. The amount of care a parent can give in terms of income shouldn't matter squid. Because if it would, we might as well castrate poor people. And some 21-year old people are kids themselves still, should we forbid them to reproduce?

Only rapists deserve to lose their lust and ability to reproduce, for the safety of others, not as mere punishment.

Saying that you want to cut the balls off of 12-year old kids because they have sex is just sick, no matter your bleeding heart concerns for the kid, of whom you automatically assume he will become a criminal who was never loved by his parents.
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May 13 2008, 11:18 PM
Rugal
May 13 2008, 04:08 PM
Oh geez.. losing your virginity at 12 years old? Seriously TWELVE YEARS FRIGGIN OLD? That is just sick, and repulsive. Some people should have their sexual organs removed. Like how they do to animals.

Yeah, and while we're busy with removing other people's sexual organs: let's remove those of the mentally/physically handicapped as well. Oh, and those of alcoholics and gypsies. And henceforth, let it be known that it is forbidden for an Aryan person to have a relation with a Jewish person. The German Reich must remain pure! In fact, why don't we kill them all straight away? Saves us the trouble of removing organs.

Seriously, what the love is wrong with you? You seem to blame the kids, while it's pretty much the parents at fault as far as I'm concerned. I despise the modern day trend of parents failing to raise their kids properly and then blaming TV, music or games.

Think before you rape your keyboard. You know what's really sick? You being the judge over whether other people are worthy of their reproductive organs or not. Or degrading fellow people to 'animals'. You do know that both things you said were used in the Third Reich, do you?

Hey, I just think that some people do not deserve the privelege of being able to reproduce. This planet is over-populated as it is. What does removing sexual organs have to do with removing handicapped/disabled people? Or a Jewish person having relations with an Aryan person? However, you are right about the parents not raising their children properly.

Based on my experiences in life, some people are indeed "animals." This is my opinion. If you can't handle that, then that's your problem.
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Generally, I wipe my ass with Godwin's law. I don't even get why it's legitimate. Somebody says something comparable to what the Nazi's did, he's gonna get the comparison smacked in his face.
I know that godwins law also goes for using it to swiftly but you are being so extremely defensive here im pretty sure you are just trying to make your opinion more valid with the whole "third reich" argument, so i hope your ass will understand godwins law better than you do.
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And don't you bloody tell me to think before I post. Not every 12/14-year old kid who is sexually active gets knocked up. There's a thing like anticonception. You're making it seem like there are hundreds of 12-year old girls are getting knocked up every minute and they all flush their babies down the toilet.
So tell me why kids of 12/14 age should be sexually active? Do you find that responsible?
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Also, I find it shortsighted that you automatically assume that every teenager would be an irresponsible parent.
apparently you do.
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Sure, getting kids loves up their life (if they don't choose for abortion/adoption, and there are always people wanting to adopt a kid) but that's their own choice, as long as the kid doesn't feel the repercussions.
Kids do feel repercussions wich i will explain after the next quote..
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The amount of care a parent can give in terms of income shouldn't matter squid. Because if it would, we might as well castrate poor people. And some 21-year old people are kids themselves still, should we forbid them to reproduce?
It has nothing to do with income but with understanding, and kids of a 12/14 age are always irresponsible, and not able to reason for others 24/7 necaserry to raise a kid.
The only way a child of a child can be raised is by adoption wich in its own is an unhealthy situation for a child. A child needs two caring parents father and mother who spend their full time making their child have decency and especially understanding. A child does not have this on its own and will only learn this well when its past puberty wich is exactly why a child cannot raise a child, and a child being raised by anything other than a healthy parental situation will become socially and emotionally handicapped.
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Only rapists deserve to lose their lust and ability to reproduce, for the safety of others, not as mere punishment.

Saying that you want to cut the balls off of 12-year old kids because they have sex is just sick, no matter your bleeding heart concerns for the kid, of whom you automatically assume he will become a criminal who was never loved by his parents.

I didnt say that, i said that children who are "loose cannons sexually" thus being both irresponsible for themselves but also ruin the future life of another child if they would get pregnant deserve to lose their reproductive organs.
It should be only a measure for a reason, not a law for a measure.. especially not by government.

Now i will await your even more blatant nazi comparisans and same strongly denials over not thinking before you post while i eat my popcorn.
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Generally, I wipe my ass with Godwin's law. I don't even get why it's legitimate. Somebody says something comparable to what the Nazi's did, he's gonna get the comparison smacked in his face.
I know that godwins law also goes for using it to swiftly but you are being so extremely defensive here im pretty sure you are just trying to make your opinion more valid with the whole "third reich" argument, so i hope your ass will understand godwins law better than you do.
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And don't you bloody tell me to think before I post. Not every 12/14-year old kid who is sexually active gets knocked up. There's a thing like anticonception. You're making it seem like there are hundreds of 12-year old girls are getting knocked up every minute and they all flush their babies down the toilet.
So tell me why kids of 12/14 age should be sexually active? Do you find that responsible?
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Also, I find it shortsighted that you automatically assume that every teenager would be an irresponsible parent.
apparently you do.
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Sure, getting kids loves up their life (if they don't choose for abortion/adoption, and there are always people wanting to adopt a kid) but that's their own choice, as long as the kid doesn't feel the repercussions.
Kids do feel repercussions wich i will explain after the next quote..
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The amount of care a parent can give in terms of income shouldn't matter squid. Because if it would, we might as well castrate poor people. And some 21-year old people are kids themselves still, should we forbid them to reproduce?
It has nothing to do with income but with understanding, and kids of a 12/14 age are always irresponsible, and not able to reason for others 24/7 necaserry to raise a kid.
The only way a child of a child can be raised is by adoption wich in its own is an unhealthy situation for a child. A child needs two caring parents father and mother who spend their full time making their child have decency and especially understanding. A child does not have this on its own and will only learn this well when its past puberty wich is exactly why a child cannot raise a child, and a child being raised by anything other than a healthy parental situation will become socially and emotionally handicapped.
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Only rapists deserve to lose their lust and ability to reproduce, for the safety of others, not as mere punishment.

Saying that you want to cut the balls off of 12-year old kids because they have sex is just sick, no matter your bleeding heart concerns for the kid, of whom you automatically assume he will become a criminal who was never loved by his parents.

I didnt say that, i said that children who are "loose cannons sexually" thus being both irresponsible for themselves but also ruin the future life of another child if they would get pregnant deserve to lose their reproductive organs.
It should be only a measure for a reason, not a law for a measure.. especially not by government.

Now i will await your even more blatant nazi comparisans and same strongly denials over not thinking before you post while i eat my popcorn.

I am not trying to validate my own opinion by using the Third Reich argument, I was showing the poster I replied to that mutilating someone's reproductive organs because you don't like their choices is squid and is comparable to the Third Reich. That you pay homage to some retarded theory is your problem, not mine, so quit crying about it. Also, leave my poopchute out of this argument. It has better things to do, like shitting on shitty theories.

I never said "should", I was talking about can, because it's their damn choice and you don't have any business with it unless it's your offspring. You have no right to tell people when they can have sex or not, and absolutely no right to mutilate them if they ignore your meddling.

Apparently I do how? I'm not promoting teenage pregnancy here, and I've never been a fan of living it up as far as sex is concerned. But at least I realise that it's a personal choice. And as I said, there are plenty of alternatives. The kids have parents as well, and you completely fail to explain why adoption is an unhealthy option. Two loving parents with adoption? Check. So what's the unhealthy aspect of it? Abortion is always an option as well. Once again, if they screw up, they pay the price. And yes, I am against people not being able to raise a child trying to do so anyway, something which you so conveniently ignored when you twisted my words which meant "You have no right to make a choice for other people" into "Teenage pregnancy rocks! I love it when they raise kids".

So you're basically saying that an "irresponsible" child of 14 years old who (accidentally) knocks someone up in consensual sex should lose his ability to reproduce forever? Should be forcefully drugged?

Enjoy your popcorn, tool.
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Yes, yes -ofcourse- thats what i was saying.........., and thanks. I will enjoy it.
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Kids do feel repercussions wich i will explain after
It has nothing to do with income but with understanding, and kids of a 12/14 age are always irresponsible, and not able to reason for others 24/7 necaserry to raise a kid.


Generalization FTW! I don't really consider myself the leader of a nation, but I'm far from irresponsible. Nor do I consider other children in my age-range to be irresponsible when their aid is needed.

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The only way a child of a child can be raised is by adoption wich in its own is an unhealthy situation for a child. A child needs two caring parents father and mother who spend their full time making their child have decency and especially understanding. A child does not have this on its own and will only learn this well when its past puberty wich is exactly why a child cannot raise a child, and a child being raised by anything other than a healthy parental situation will become socially and emotionally handicapped.


Not really, a friend of mine didn't exactly have a "healthy parental situation". Daddy left him when he about to born and Mommy died when he was three.
But luckily he still had his aunt. Now he's 15, in good shape and about to finish high school. Sure he has a bit of a temper, but many people have one.

Oh and about the whole Virginity issue:

Bang when you wanna, have thought about it and now that you really really wanna bang, cept when you have AIDS. Then bang with plastic over your dick.
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May 15 2008, 02:54 PM
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Kids do feel repercussions wich i will explain after
It has nothing to do with income but with understanding, and kids of a 12/14 age are always irresponsible, and not able to reason for others 24/7 necaserry to raise a kid.


Generalization FTW! I don't really consider myself the leader of a nation, but I'm far from irresponsible. Nor do I consider other children in my age-range to be irresponsible when their aid is needed.

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The only way a child of a child can be raised is by adoption wich in its own is an unhealthy situation for a child. A child needs two caring parents father and mother who spend their full time making their child have decency and especially understanding. A child does not have this on its own and will only learn this well when its past puberty wich is exactly why a child cannot raise a child, and a child being raised by anything other than a healthy parental situation will become socially and emotionally handicapped.


Not really, a friend of mine didn't exactly have a "healthy parental situation". Daddy left him when he about to born and Mommy died when he was three.
But luckily he still had his aunt. Now he's 15, in good shape and about to finish high school. Sure he has a bit of a temper, but many people have one.

Oh and about the whole Virginity issue:

Bang when you wanna, have thought about it and now that you really really wanna bang, cept when you have AIDS. Then bang with plastic over your dick.

You seem to have an expression disorder. (and not only in this topic)
If i had been a mod you wouldve had a warning for your language my friend :)
Though i hate its so (since he is a doof), drphil seemed to agree with me on todays show concerning the same topic. Not that i want to use that to make a point, just a funny note.
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Actually, both of those topics are in relation to virginity.
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DrewTheDude
May 15 2008, 03:29 PM
Actually, both of those topics are in relation to virginity.

That is true, but this topic is not for the debating, those topics are however.
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Since when have we not been allowed to debate in any topic? Where does it say that in the rules?
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May 15 2008, 03:46 PM
Since when have we not been allowed to debate in any topic? Where does it say that in the rules?

Ok you are right about the debate thing, but let me clarify what the problem is because I don't think a lot of you are understanding the rules clearly.

Rule For All The Forums:

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The rules are pretty much the same. I however cut you guys some slack most of the time even though I shouldn't I do because it gives the debate topics a little more interest. So please try toning it down on the language and trolling. It just makes you guys sound immature and unsophisticated.
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I didn't find the arguments to be no less worse in that aspect in any other topic... And besides, this debate is pretty well done anyway.
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May 15 2008, 04:43 PM
I didn't find the arguments to be no less worse in that aspect in any other topic... And besides, this debate is pretty well done anyway.

I agree with you on that, but the argument was getting carried away with flaming and trolling which than got carried on to other threads. I think I am going to merge this topic with the Sex Education thread so you guys can debate, but please be respectful and courteous towards others. Thank you.

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Topics Merged!

Debate about anything Sex related such as Virginity, Age of Consent, and other things.
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May 15 2008, 05:47 PM
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May 15 2008, 02:54 PM
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Kids do feel repercussions wich i will explain after
It has nothing to do with income but with understanding, and kids of a 12/14 age are always irresponsible, and not able to reason for others 24/7 necaserry to raise a kid.


Generalization FTW! I don't really consider myself the leader of a nation, but I'm far from irresponsible. Nor do I consider other children in my age-range to be irresponsible when their aid is needed.

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The only way a child of a child can be raised is by adoption wich in its own is an unhealthy situation for a child. A child needs two caring parents father and mother who spend their full time making their child have decency and especially understanding. A child does not have this on its own and will only learn this well when its past puberty wich is exactly why a child cannot raise a child, and a child being raised by anything other than a healthy parental situation will become socially and emotionally handicapped.


Not really, a friend of mine didn't exactly have a "healthy parental situation". Daddy left him when he about to born and Mommy died when he was three.
But luckily he still had his aunt. Now he's 15, in good shape and about to finish high school. Sure he has a bit of a temper, but many people have one.

Oh and about the whole Virginity issue:

Bang when you wanna, have thought about it and now that you really really wanna bang, cept when you have AIDS. Then bang with plastic over your ****.

You seem to have an expression disorder. (and not only in this topic)
If i had been a mod you wouldve had a warning for your language my friend :)
Though i hate its so (since he is a doof), drphil seemed to agree with me on todays show concerning the same topic. Not that i want to use that to make a point, just a funny note.

You seem to have a disorder where you continiously fail to reply to arguments.

Anyway, don't mess with Dr.Phily man, he's serious business!
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I think schools need to teach people how to put on and use a condom better!
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I support Slick's statement.
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I think it must not teach in public...Perhaps one by one lessons will be good to teach kids about dating...Actually kids must not know anything about sex till the adultness but in this technological times they can learn anything..So before they learn false things by theirselves teachers should teach them...With one by one Method...




It's a great chaos that you can't find a bride or groom untouched... I can't marry with someone that i suspect that he or she made something with others... :angry: :angry: :angry:
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I agree with sad555
In this modern era,children can learn anything from internet,tv,radio,etc
Before it goes to wrong path,it's better if the school gave sex education in proper ways :)
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Well I believe that its all just about being responsible since if the girl becomes pregnant that is your wife. But I think its wrong for the schools to lie about alot of things about sex just to keep us from doing it, pardon the pun, but to be really clear, condoms when used properly can work over 70% of the time or higher not 0%.
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DemonKing93
Jul 7 2008, 06:05 PM
Well I believe that its all just about being responsible since if the girl becomes pregnant that is your wife. But I think its wrong for the schools to lie about alot of things about sex just to keep us from doing it, pardon the pun, but to be really clear, condoms when used properly can work over 70% of the time or higher not 0%.

That's not usually the case. Most underage girls who do get pregnant do not stay with the guys who got them pregnant. They either get an abortion, give away the child, or keep it. One of the three.
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weird world we live in huh :mellow:

anyway i agree that it should be taught to children but in either kigh school or secondary school.
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