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Zhang He; Beauty! Come to me!
Topic Started: Apr 8 2007, 06:38 PM (9,037 Views)
Macv12
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"Was the enemy camp pretty?"

"Um, well, uh, it was...normal, I suppose."

Zhang He ownz. His personality is unique and funny, as opposed to the somewhat generic warrior types. His appearance is certainly flamboyant (I myself don't really like the butterfly wings), but it's generally fine, and goes well with his character. His moveset is amazing as far as I'm concerned. The only thing I would improve is the range of his C5. Currently, I'm in the process of finding a good avatar featuring him (though I do hate to sacrifice Ina; maybe I'll just put him in my sig).

Besides, his interactions with other characters, rare as they are, are to die for. Just watch the scene between him and Xiahou Yuan during his musou mode (Mt. Ding Jun, I believe). Try to envision the following between the elegant and beautiful Zhang He, and the large and boisterous Xiahou Yuan:

"A general must command his troops with grace, and poise." *pose*
"Like...this?" *pose*
NOTE: The above post is TOO LONG
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Ranmaru Mori
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I'm so tired of ***************ing about the weapons.


"Wah, i want everything to be historically accurate" Then go buy the History Channel game. You think KOEI doesn't consider this? Maybe they feel that a "fun factor" might pull in more people then "And now historically accurate: Only 3 weapons to choose from!"

So cry all you want, it won't change, and you'll keep playing. And for every person who stops playing because a girl has a flute, 3 will join because magical cards are cool.
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Ranmaru Mori
Apr 10 2007, 02:57 AM
I'm so tired of ***************ing about the weapons.


"Wah, i want everything to be historically accurate" Then go buy the History Channel game. You think KOEI doesn't consider this? Maybe they feel that a "fun factor" might pull in more people then "And now historically accurate: Only 3 weapons to choose from!"

So cry all you want, it won't change, and you'll keep playing. And for every person who stops playing because a girl has a flute, 3 will join because magical cards are cool.

I have no problems with the weapons used.
Its just how over the top Koei are going with some characters personality's and images. And yes that may be a good thing. But it also may not be.
Its good to make each character has unique as possible because then you have a wider variation to choose from and won't have to play story over story thinking to yourself ''Have I done this before??''.
However IMO they must draw the line at some point in regards to how extreme the personality's become.
I initially thought that they would draw the line with Ranmuaru Mori's design in SW1, but boy was I wrong!
They should of done the same with Zhang He, but of course they pushed him into the next level.
Now are we going to see Ranmaru literally become a girl in the next installment!?? Who knows?? :P
No actually, I am being serious!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mori_Ranmaru


That's why he's the way he is. Wasn't a random idea by KOEI.
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Ranmaru Mori
Apr 12 2007, 06:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mori_Ranmaru


That's why he's the way he is. Wasn't a random idea by KOEI.

I am not saying they made it up by themselves. I am just saying they have gone over the top, especially with the voice.
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It's VERY common for women to voice for young boys in anime/games/etc so NO they have not gone over the top.

Also, Zhang He only wears butterfly wings in an ALTERNATE COSTUME in DW4. Or should I be talking about Oichi being a stuffed rat, or Tarzan Masamune?
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Well know matter what anyone says about him, I still love his jump charge in Dynasty Warriors 5! :wub:
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In reality that would bend and perhaps destroy his claws...
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Chaos
Apr 24 2007, 03:18 PM
In reality that would bend and perhaps destroy his claws...

Thats why its good to not think of it as realistic. :)
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Indeed it is, he'd cry if he broke a nail...
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He does indeed have a superb moveset doesn't he?? ;)

Literally every move of his is unique and great! :D

Let me ask you something, what would you say if you saw another new character appear with his claws?? Would you be happy or sad??
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Let me tell you, I Hate his moveset with a passion, I hate the character, I hate his persona, I hate the fact that he used Beauty in most of his speeches, I despise the fact that he dances in his last FMV in DW5, I would like him to be fully revamped, some may say I am not comfortable with my sexuality because I don't like the way he acts, they would be wrong, I am fully comfortable, I just don't like it when producers put people who act homosexual on a game which kids play, it's almost as though they're teaching them to be gay. He is one of my least favourite male characters down the bottom with Lu Xun. I would love it if someone better can along with claws with a better Moveset and less queer personality.
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Chaos
Apr 24 2007, 04:15 PM
Let me tell you, I Hate his moveset with a passion, I hate the character, I hate his persona, I hate the fact that he used Beauty in most of his speeches, I despise the fact that he dances in his last FMV in DW5, I would like him to be fully revamped, some may say I am not comfortable with my sexuality because I don't like the way he acts, they would be wrong, I am fully comfortable, I just don't like it when producers put people who act homosexual on a game which kids play, it's almost as though they're teaching them to be gay. He is one of my least favourite male characters down the bottom with Lu Xun. I would love it if someone better can along with claws with a better Moveset and less queer personality.

Lol that FMV of his was labelled as the funniest in the game! :lol:

Wo, I was not expecting that post of yours to be like that. But I really was not expecting anything at all. :P

Koei must make characters unique in order for them to be all individual. So that can't be helped, although it can be slightly altered. ;)

Would people think of the same of Lu Bu if he was not the greatest warrior?? No they would not!
Would people think of the same of Xu Zhu if he was not slow and large in size with a huge skull shattering weapon?? No they would not!

You can see where I am coming from now, right??

Anyway Zhang He's persona is fine except for the fact that it needs to be dimmed down a fair bit, and his appearance also, thats all.

His MS should not be touched without a caution, because its great in my opinion! :)
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Apr 24 2007, 04:15 PM
He is one of my least favourite male characters down the bottom with Lu Xun. I would love it if someone better can along with claws with a better Moveset and less queer personality.

They are the fastest characters in the game!
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Apr 24 2007, 04:26 PM
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Apr 24 2007, 04:15 PM
He is one of my least favourite male characters down the bottom with Lu Xun. I would love it if someone better can along with claws with a better Moveset and less queer personality.

They are the fastest characters in the game!

Do you think that there should be more quick characters or more slow characters??
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Apr 24 2007, 04:26 PM
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Apr 24 2007, 04:15 PM
He is one of my least favourite male characters down the bottom with Lu Xun. I would love it if someone better can along with claws with a better Moveset and less queer personality.

They are the fastest characters in the game!

It doesn't make them good. It's more than just speed that it necessary in a character.
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Zhang He reminds me of Vega somewhat, well a queer Chinese version. The claws are cool. His look needs to be less "flying the Rainbow Flag" so to speak.
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I like his moveset and all, but I don't like how he keeps talking about beauty and dancing and all those other things...
"So beautiful are they that birds alight and fishes drown, the moon hides her face and the flowers blush for shame at sight of them."
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yeah his movesets pretty cool, just lose the wings and maybe change "Beauty!" to "Hot Women!" and he could be just like Magoichi, haha :P
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Zhang He should be more masicline on his costume and looks but her personailty should be fenime and so as her fighting style.
I cant take pride in such megear Endevaors.
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Moveset ok...But I don't like him when he mumbles about beauty. Makes me feel like strangling him. Otherwise he is fine.
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i know his title was Robust Marquis but that Koei took that too literally. He wasn't supposed to be gay, flamboyant and metrosexual yes but not full out gay! his moveset's alright, though.
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Aug 28 2007, 12:58 PM
i know his title was Robust Marquis but that Koei took that too literally. He wasn't supposed to be gay, flamboyant and metrosexual yes but not full out gay! his moveset's alright, though.

Where does it say in DW that Zhang He is gay?

No where.

He's feminine. There's a difference. <_<
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What about the beauty obsession? Does that seem normal to you in any way at all? He wears pink and purple, what am I supposed to think.
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Aug 29 2007, 01:39 AM
What about the beauty obsession? Does that seem normal to you in any way at all? He wears pink and purple, what am I supposed to think.

That doesn't make someone gay. I've already told you what he is. He's feminine. -_-
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