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What Do You Think Of Magoichi Saika?
Awesome moveset, Awesome Personality 60 (65.2%)
Terrible moveset, Awesome Personality 22 (23.9%)
Bad All Around 10 (10.9%)
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Magoichi Saika; Rate His Personality/Moveset
Topic Started: Jun 9 2007, 04:20 AM (2,194 Views)
Jsun
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I don't think anyone has made a character discussion about this guy because I don't think people truly play him that much because of his quirky moveset. I have to admit I love his personality as a womanizer, sleezy, and wild kind of guy. Kinda reminds me of Mugen from Samurai Champloo and Wolfwood from Trigun. I think the big disappointment about Magoichi Saika is his weapon. I mean its so big and it feels weird when your playing him because the musket is clunky and all. That bayonet at the end of the gun doesn't really help much either. The weapon needs to be abit faster and be lighter so it will match with his crazy moveset. Other than that I pretty much love him. Specially his awesome One Liner quotes in SW2 and his rugged/wild appearance.

Anyone else think that KOEI should make his weapon easier to use and so he can be able to do multiple things. For example: In the movie Death Trance, the main character wields a Bokken with a Gun hiding in the sheath. I think that they should use a moveset similar to that so he can hit people with the bokken and take it out whenever to use the gun. Kinda like Date Masamune. I mean who carries a Musket that big anyways to fight, its just weird. A bokken with a Gun sheathed inside sounds cooler and more suitable for that Era.

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Scarmiglione
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Magoichi would be one of my favorite characters, if it weren't for his moveset. In other words, I agree with you whole-heartedly.

One thing I noticed is that his portrayal seemed almost like a stereotype that the Japanese normally attribute to Americans in anime. The free-loving, womanizing, rugged, gun for hire.

I've got a couple nicknames for him because of this. "Japanese Rambo" and "The Real American Hero........ of Feudal Japan."
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I think his SW2 moveset is fine. His biggest flaw is his vulnerability when doing his moves. I guess he makes up for it in his bullets. He's definately not nub friendly, but he's fun once you figure out exaclty when to use which charges. :P
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His musou is great, but I think his special should cause much more damage. The only thing they need to change is his weapon I guess.
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But then he couldn't be the leader of Saika Mercenaries anymore :(.

I thought he was ok in SW1 although his Musou and Charge attacks were horrible. At least he had great S string. In SW2, however, KOEI improved him a lot. Now his Musou is one of the best attacks in game and his Charge attacks are stronger. But I do wish his moveset type would be Special and not Charge. His current Special attacks are not effective and the Charge attacks he has are not good enough for Charge character.

I like his musket too but IMO he should use it only for shooting. KOEI should do like Capcom did: Give him a knife as secondary weapon which he could use for his S string.
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Scarmiglione
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Jun 9 2007, 12:04 AM
But then he couldn't be the leader of Saika Mercenaries anymore :(.

I thought he was ok in SW1 although his Musou and Charge attacks were horrible. At least he had great S string. In SW2, however, KOEI improved him a lot. Now his Musou is one of the best attacks in game and his Charge attacks are stronger. But I do wish his moveset type would be Special and not Charge. His current Special attacks are not effective and the Charge attacks he has are not good enough for Charge character.

I like his musket too but IMO he should use it only for shooting. KOEI should do like Capcom did: Give him a knife as secondary weapon which he could use for his S string.

I haven't gotten my hands on a copy of SW 2, yet, so I was basing my judgement on his SW 1 controls.

All the more reason for me pick it up, if he really has been improved.
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i love everything about him and his personality is nice ^_^
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His moveset (while improved) still needs some work. I'll admit, I think his musou is excellent (especially when teaming up with bodyguard) but his lack of range is what makes him worse than other comparable characters. Take Ina & Masamune, for example ... the range on Ina's arrow attacks is ridiculous ... & Masamune can clear crowds pretty well with his charge attacks. Magoichi's charge attacks seem to be slower & can get interrupted.

Also, while characters like Ina & Masamune can hold their own against some of the tougher opponents, Magoichi struggles. Facing someone like Tadakatsu, you better hope the enemy troops drop a lot of musou jars.

He does, however, have a great personality & his story line in SW2 brings out a lot of his character in different ways.
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I don't really use Magoichi's charge attacks much in SW2. Just give Magoichi a musket with a detachable blade.
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I find him ok. He has one of the most interesting storylines in SW2. However, one thing I can't stand about him is the way he uses his musket. Come on, you have a long range weapon!! And that bayonet at the end of his gun? Tiny. I also don't like his Charge attacks, though I love his musou in SW2. It sucked in SW1.

I agree with LoW. Give him a secondary weapon.

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Gotta luv a womanizer in games. Magoichi is probably the closest thing to an american in the game, his look, personality, and weapon. From SW1 to SW2 he and Masamune get the vote for most improved character. His musou is actually useful in his SW2 form, and his only real weakness is the speed of his C4. He is one of the characters they could have made Normal and expanded on his MS with alot more musket fire.....they missed a golden opportunity with him.
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Magoichi's C3 is a great combo line and he has one of the best personalities the game. However as a previous poster has said he really strugles against the tougher characters, his dream stage on hard isn't that difficult, but if you go for Honda then you will be looking for rice balls fast.
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I like Magoichi's move set. The way he just kinda clubs people with the barrel of his gun is kind of akward... But I don't think hand to hand musket fighting translates well to such large battles. because it's mainly about tripping, stabbing, and jabbing. Be neat if he had some kinda set up like that samurai from Trigun, where he could attach the hilt of his sword to either a gun, or a sword and switch freely between the two.

I dunno. It'd be nice if he used hand to hand combat or something. But then I just want a hand to hand fighter in General. And someone who uses a saber-dagger combo. But thats more western.

On the whole, he's a cool guy. I like the way he's more free than basically any of the other characters. Feeling what he wants to feel, as the story dictates. He and Mitsuhide are the only ones I can think of that are really like that. Everyone else just kinda says catch phrases and does what the alien space beams tell them to do.

Though that scene with Ieyasu falling off his horse was Awesome. Not burnning with unrelenting revenge awesome. But awesome.
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Magoichi is pretty good and his personality suits him. The only bad thing about him is... why does his musket only fire only 3 meters then disappear?
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Overall he's ok, cool and funny, compare with SW1, I think SW2 was way cooler and his attack had more improved.
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Magoichi is awsome! He use's a musket, he's funny!
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I don't think anyone has made a character discussion about this guy because I don't think people truly play him that much because of his quirky moveset. I have to admit I love his personality as a womanizer, sleezy, and wild kind of guy. Kinda reminds me of Mugen from Samurai Champloo and Wolfwood from Trigun. I think the big disappointment about Magoichi Saika is his weapon. I mean its so big and it feels weird when your playing him because the musket is clunky and all. That bayonet at the end of the gun doesn't really help much either. The weapon needs to be abit faster and be lighter so it will match with his crazy moveset. Other than that I pretty much love him. Specially his awesome One Liner quotes in SW2 and his rugged/wild appearance.

Anyone else think that KOEI should make his weapon easier to use and so he can be able to do multiple things. For example: In the movie Death Trance, the main character wields a Bokken with a Gun hiding in the sheath. I think that they should use a moveset similar to that so he can hit people with the bokken and take it out whenever to use the gun. Kinda like Date Masamune. I mean who carries a Musket that big anyways to fight, its just weird. A bokken with a Gun sheathed inside sounds cooler and more suitable for that Era.

Insane Magoichi Saika-like Gun Scene from Death Trance (Will take awhile to load)
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I think your right my friend he would be most love for his fantastic feats on the battlefield......even though his is still one of my favorite characters awe....they should also bring back his secondary outfit the one when he's shirtless and has his hair down..it really fits his overall character it even inspires me even more to play as him :D
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Yeah, you bet... So far, I think the most suitable outfit for him was shirtless, that makes him looks llike Rainbow!!!
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I agreed too.Hes definity improve in his moveset and his attitude.
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Magoichi is my favorite character in Samurai Warriors. He has an awesome personality especially with the ladies. Most of the time I find it funny how he ends up failing with the ladies. I don't know what his moveset was like in SW1 since I don't own that game but from playing SW2, I love his movest espeically his C4.
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I kind of like Magoichi i didnt at first though. His personality is really funny and different ^_^ I think he has a bad moveset which could be much better. If it were better then i would go him more. Its because of his attitude that i play as him anyway

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a difficult character to master, i wish his moveset were better(i'd like and use him more) and his personality is awful, part playboy and part complete DORK, he never makes it with the ladies, because, any woman who fell for those lines and attitude would deserve the guy. painful.
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I just love Magoichi
I find him funny and at the same time serious and a great character to play with ^_^
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Magoichi is like so similar to Okuni.
One flirts with all the girls and the other flirts with all the guys. ^_^

Edit: Yeah, Okuni with girls too, and teach them how to become beautiful. <_<
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doesn't Okuni flirt with girls too? :P
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