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Three Great Spears of Japan?
Topic Started: Jun 23 2007, 06:35 PM (7,605 Views)
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I'm doing some research on Japanese Folklore, Mythology, and History to dig up some interesting concepts for a Fiction I want to write. Basically, I found something I might want to pick at for awhile, but none of my sources have anything on it except for the mere mention of it.

I found something titled 'The Three Great Spears of Japan.' The three spears are the Tonbogiri, Otegine, and the Nihonge. I read briefly about the legend of the Tonbogiri Spear and how it's known as the Dragonfly Cutter, but I haven't found much more.


Help on the Otegine and Nihonge would be appreciated.


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Otegine was my character name in a game..

I have nothing else on it either, other than the fact that it was supposedly brought down by the gods or something to that effect.
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I think Izanagi thrust Otegine into the sea, the drops of water formed the islands of Japan. Nihonge, I'm not so sure about.
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Jun 24 2007, 08:17 AM
I think Izanagi thrust Otegine into the sea, the drops of water formed the islands of Japan. Nihonge, I'm not so sure about.

Wrong. Izanagi used Ama no nuhoko. The three spears the topic creator is talking about were all real spears from famous blacksmiths.
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Yeah, they were real Spears, I heard.


Though, it's likely they were associated with Legends. Look at Guan Yu. Real person turned God. =/
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Jun 26 2007, 02:33 PM
Yeah, they were real Spears, I heard.


Though, it's likely they were associated with Legends. Look at Guan Yu. Real person turned God. =/

And look at Ieyasu. Real man who is still a real man. That was a horrible analogy in that it makes no sense.

There are 3 famous spears in Japan. It's a fact. Honda Tadakatsu's was the Tonbo-giri. Did it really cut a dragonfly in half? Maybe. Was it even sharp enough to? Maybe. Regardless, it was still the name of the spear he used and is considered one of the three.
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yes the three spears were real

and most likely used by the most powerful warriors of japan...seein tadakatsu has one...wouldnt it be wierd if keiji and yukimura had the other two?
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otegine is the sixth weapon of the new officer on sw xl...
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3 great spears of Japan:
Tonbo-giri
Nihon-Go
and,..... I forget
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Yes the three spears are:

Tonbo-giri - the spear weilded by Honda Tadakatsu also known as the Dragonfly Cutter Spear. It was said if a dragonfly sat on the blade, it would be cut in half.


Otegino : Couldn't find anything on this, but I'll look again.


Nihongo or Nipongo - Spear given to Shogun Ashikaga Yoshiaki by Emperor Masatiaki. It was then passed to Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi before being used by Fukushima Masonori ( but I think they mean Masanari ) and finally Mori Tahei.
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I'll look into Otegine..
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sorry to bump but i found this info and yeah

Nihongo was arguably the most famous spear in those days. It was 2.3m length, with a blade of 80cm length. It was originally owned by a daimyo, Fukushima Masanori . But one day, he made a bit with Mori Tahe on drinking sake . The stake was Nihongo. And Tahe won. The next day, Masanori sobered up and asked Tahe to give back the spear. But Tahe rejected. There is a song about the story, Kurodabushi .

so it probly looked a little something like this...
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That's actually interesting
Hope Masanori wield this spear when he become playable in SW3.special
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