Gracia Hosokawa

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Gracia Hosokawa; SW2: XL
Topic Started: Jun 28 2007, 12:44 AM (8,903 Views)
Naoto Shirogane	Jun 18 2008, 10:06 AM Post #226
Won't be on KW for a while, I'm gonna miss everyone!! Posts: 499 Group: Members Member #9,796 Joined: September 19, 2007 Gender Female	O.o now that you mention it...I hardly hear her name being called out...
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The Hero	Jun 18 2008, 03:16 PM Post #227
Heyya!:D Posts: 1,010 Group: Members Member #221 Joined: December 27, 2005 Gender Male	I think they used her other name (Gracia) in SW because thats what she is mostly known by in history.But she isnt ever mentioned in the game as Tama, just Gracia.
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LoW	Jun 18 2008, 06:19 PM Post #228
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,435 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	I would like her name to be Tama instead. Although I think Gracia sounds better, they shouldn't use it if they don't bother to include her religion. KOEI is honestly being too ridiculous with their cencorship sometimes.
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Seraphil	Jun 18 2008, 07:32 PM Post #229
The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel? Posts: 3,819 Group: Moderators Member #1,112 Joined: March 16, 2006 Gender Male	LoW Jun 18 2008, 05:19 PM I would like her name to be Tama instead. Although I think Gracia sounds better, they shouldn't use it if they don't bother to include her religion. KOEI is honestly being too ridiculous with their cencorship sometimes. Oh for crying out loud. Censorship? You've got to be kidding me. This is the same Koei that has Christianity conversions and samurai calling out in the name of God in battle in their other games. They most likely didn't include it because they may have wanted to do something more free-form with Gracia. And Gracia is her more well-known name in Japan. It's like arguing that Hanzo should've been named Masanari when Hanzo is the obviously more well-known name.
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LoW	Jun 18 2008, 10:00 PM Post #230
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,435 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	Oh yeah, I totally forgot Kessen >_>. But that just makes you wonder even more why they couldn't do the same thing for SW's Gracia as they did for Kessen's. Well-known name or not, I still don't think it suits her SW character, especially when you think about the name's background and why it was given to her. You could compare it to Hideyoshi's nickname, "Monkey". If Hideyoshi would act like a normal guy and have a generic moveset, I'm sure that almost no one would understand why he is called as Monkey by others. My point is, that if Gracia will be known as Gracia in the future SW games, KOEI should do something about it and not just ignore her religion. That way, everyone would know how to answer this question: Retainermori Why was she named Gracia? --
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MUTSU	Jul 7 2008, 12:04 AM Post #231
悪魔城ドラキュラ Posts: 67 Group: Members Member #16,519 Joined: July 2, 2008 Gender Male	Gracia is soooo cute! >.< It's nice that she is Mitsuhide's daughter! I love Mitsuhide!!! with Ranmaru<33333333



Cao Pi.	Jul 9 2008, 07:40 PM Post #232
Your'e not even fit enough to share the battlefield with me. Posts: 101 Group: Members Member #16,450 Joined: June 29, 2008	i love gracia too making her my fav sw girl as her martial arts and magic are the best combination. i also love her on screen/game romance with mago as they just look stunnig together. ialso feel her story mode emotional as she leaves home and joins mago and grows much wiser from her experience with him. i also love her weapon as she is the first to fight hand to hand combat with elemental magic skills. wow she is amazing.
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Da Qiao Forever	Jul 12 2008, 10:58 PM Post #233
Squirrel Warrior Posts: 1,042 Group: Members Member #10,891 Joined: November 8, 2007 Gender Male	You know...I wish Gracia could have worn what she does in her concept art in the WO2 Gallery. That looks so much better! >_< She probably wouldn't have looked so loli! XD She looks much more Shakespearsp? like...
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Cheshire	Jul 13 2008, 01:38 AM Post #234
Mmmmm.. Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #14,396 Joined: April 1, 2008	@DaQiao Forever LoL right! That's outfits looks so good on her! XD I love the black leggings. Dang loli! But Gracia still super adorable! Wait how old is she suppose to be anyway?
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foomin	Jul 13 2008, 01:43 AM Post #235
"i smell poop..." Posts: 2,736 Group: Members Member #4,229 Joined: November 17, 2006	Spiral Jul 13 2008, 12:38 AM @DaQiao Forever LoL right! That's outfits looks so good on her! XD I love the black leggings. Dang loli! But Gracia still super adorable! Wait how old is she suppose to be anyway? game-wise, i'd expect that she's portrayed to be in her late teens. historically, she was 38 when she died at Osaka. she was one character i could see being garbed in traditional Japanese fashion, kimono and obi...and we got Little Green Riding Hood instead?? i was not pleased with either her look or her story, but i really do like her now. she's pretty endearing, other than her VA.
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The Hero	Jul 13 2008, 02:44 AM Post #236
Heyya!:D Posts: 1,010 Group: Members Member #221 Joined: December 27, 2005 Gender Male	foomin Jul 13 2008, 12:43 AM Spiral Jul 13 2008, 12:38 AM @DaQiao Forever LoL right! That's outfits looks so good on her! XD I love the black leggings. Dang loli! But Gracia still super adorable!� Wait how old is she suppose to be anyway? game-wise, i'd expect that she's portrayed to be in her late teens. historically, she was 38 when she died at Osaka. she was one character i could see being garbed in traditional Japanese fashion, kimono and obi...and we got Little Green Riding Hood instead?? i was not pleased with either her look or her story, but i really do like her now. she's pretty endearing, other than her VA. Agreed, I love Gracia!! Her character/personality is just so innocent, indearing, and hopeful.
	Byyy Cao Pi! Lady Nene, Toshie Maeda, Da Qiao, Sun Ce, Jin Kazama, Ling Xiaoyu, Sophitia, Yoshimitsu, Lightning, are my favorites! BoA, BoA, BoA! ;]


Burning Skulls	Jul 13 2008, 04:46 AM Post #237
There is darkness in every heart... Posts: 811 Group: Moderators Member #8,618 Joined: July 19, 2007 Gender Male	I think her moveset is great. It's nice to see someone who used their hands and magic and stuff. But I really would've preferred if her story revolved more around Mitsuhide instead of Magoichi. And I won't have to hear 'Mago' constantly in her story. Otherwise I like her character even though I think they should've made her a bit older.
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Daqi	Jul 13 2008, 11:57 AM Post #238
Fireball Posts: 103 Group: Members Member #16,707 Joined: July 11, 2008	I've still not played as her.I couldn't find SW2:XL in the stores nearby but I already feel that I'm gonna love her.She's extremely cute and I love red-haired characters.



Zhen Ji~	Jul 18 2008, 09:33 PM Post #239
~Storm~ Posts: 531 Group: Members Member #10,519 Joined: October 22, 2007	Her story is so.....everything is so....fake >> I mean it's just a Magoichi storyline and her freakin name is last on the officer list -,- Before when i saw pics of her, I thought dude...change your expression why is your face always like that..?!! <_< But I've played her...at least her face changes xD Her outfit is blah.....She's like....a foreign elf....and she doesn't really interact with her dad Her gaiden stage is cute, but there was no Nene <_< and her story mode...uhhh...Tadaoki loved her a lot and didn't want to kill her <_< She is the BEST on horse! but on feet, she's slow and weak.... Only is she shoots out magic and her range is bad... I don't dislike her totally, I think she's kinda cute.... But I don't think she is amazing for all she does is have slow martial arts and go MAGO!
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LittleDragonZ	Jul 18 2008, 10:01 PM Post #240
Behold the spear of Baby Dragon! Posts: 6,846 Group: Admins Member #3,636 Joined: October 5, 2006 Gender Male	Yeah, haha, Mago Mago Mago is like her trademark for now. So let's see what happens in SW3. She is a bit strange to use on the higher difficulties, Zhen Ji~. All you've got to do is use your magic and flee. Then rinse and repeat.



Zhen Ji~	Jul 18 2008, 10:11 PM Post #241
~Storm~ Posts: 531 Group: Members Member #10,519 Joined: October 22, 2007	LittleDragonZ Jul 18 2008, 01:01 PM Yeah, haha, Mago Mago Mago is like her trademark for now. So let's see what happens in SW3. She is a bit strange to use on the higher difficulties, Zhen Ji~. All you've got to do is use your magic and flee. Then rinse and repeat. Her magic attacks....the other SW characters could do that too xD But she's useful, her first charge attack charges up the musuo So her musuo is good :3
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Silvy	Aug 3 2008, 11:46 PM Post #242
Mobile Suit Gundam: Ecole du Ciel Posts: 255 Group: Members Member #14,100 Joined: March 19, 2008 Gender Female	Random question...Are her eyes green or blue? :wacko: Being a redhead, her eyes should be green right?...
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foomin	Aug 4 2008, 12:18 AM Post #243
"i smell poop..." Posts: 2,736 Group: Members Member #4,229 Joined: November 17, 2006	Silvy Aug 3 2008, 10:46 PM Random question...Are her eyes green or blue? :wacko: Being a redhead, her eyes should be green right?... green. which is plainly visible on the actual SW2:XL disc itself. but i know plenty of folks with red(ish) hair who have blue eyes.
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Silvy	Aug 4 2008, 12:22 AM Post #244
Mobile Suit Gundam: Ecole du Ciel Posts: 255 Group: Members Member #14,100 Joined: March 19, 2008 Gender Female	foomin Aug 3 2008, 03:18 PM Silvy Aug 3 2008, 10:46 PM Random question...Are her eyes green or blue? :wacko: Being a redhead, her eyes should be green right?... green. which is plainly visible on the actual SW2:XL disc itself. but i know plenty of folks with red(ish) hair who have blue eyes. Thanks! I'm trying to make a new avatar for myself but the image I was using is kinda pale, so I couldn't see what color her eyes were. They looked gray-ish blue, so I was trying to fix them but I needed the correct color, lol. Thanks again. :3
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The Hero	Aug 4 2008, 02:00 PM Post #245
Heyya!:D Posts: 1,010 Group: Members Member #221 Joined: December 27, 2005 Gender Male	Silvy Aug 3 2008, 11:22 PM foomin Aug 3 2008, 03:18 PM Silvy Aug 3 2008, 10:46 PM Random question...Are her eyes green or blue?� :wacko: Being a redhead, her eyes should be green right?... green. which is plainly visible on the actual SW2:XL disc itself. but i know plenty of folks with red(ish) hair who have blue eyes. Thanks! I'm trying to make a new avatar for myself but the image I was using is kinda pale, so I couldn't see what color her eyes were. They looked gray-ish blue, so I was trying to fix them but I needed the correct color, lol. Thanks again. :3 I luv ur avatar! Yea, Gracia has green eyes.Gracia is the disc covergirl! She is just amazing, her attacks are great.She is beautiful
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Ruka	Aug 25 2008, 02:36 AM Post #246
Kiri no Shugosha Posts: 818 Group: Members Member #17,170 Joined: August 1, 2008	Well she is a great character, however i think she could be more a magic user with a staff or a wand, not fighting using Punches and Kicks, neverthless one of my favorite females and i Love the actress who does her VA.



Darkie	Aug 31 2008, 07:21 AM Post #247
SURPRISE!!!! Posts: 745 Group: Members Member #15,415 Joined: May 11, 2008 Gender Male	One of my favorite characters! Her magic attacks makes her stronger and stronger. I figured that you could totally pawn everyone in a trap in her dream stage. Defeat all females and officers except Ina and the officers close to her. After that use her R1 triangle and use her attack X2 do not go near the officers then activate her lasers(the magic not musou). After that you rule!
	My thoughts are pointing to such a violent world.


Vermillion Sky	Sep 8 2008, 11:43 PM Post #248
The Vermillion Sky Posts: 518 Group: Members Member #12,300 Joined: December 30, 2007	She takes a lot of getting used to. Her move set is very misleading to anybody who loves a monk type character. Since her move set is so incredibly weak, she must rely heavily on her special attacks. The upside to it is that you can one shot even super charged officers heh. NOTHING will live if they are caught by her R1+SSS at close range.She's all about planning ahead. Once you're used to her, it should be cruise control on expert.



Darkie	Sep 9 2008, 01:41 AM Post #249
SURPRISE!!!! Posts: 745 Group: Members Member #15,415 Joined: May 11, 2008 Gender Male	She should have an interesting moveset than her original. She's really hard to control in expert but she can defeat them. But I am annoyed by her stats.
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T.e.n	Sep 9 2008, 02:36 AM Post #250
Obsessive Yue Ying Fan OMG Posts: 1,696 Group: Members Member #9,822 Joined: September 20, 2007 Gender Male	Just throwing my hat in there with those who love Gracia. I'll admit to still disliking alot of the Gothic Lolita-ness, but it's not a bad design. And her narrative! She has one of the freshest, most fully-fleshed out narratives in the game. It's great to see her come into her own, especially in the end - a fully-grown woman who was inspired, and in turn, inspires others. With friendship. It's just wonderful to see, and her Saika stage is almost heartbreaking.
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