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Best Officer Destroyer?; Who got the moves to take generals out.
Topic Started: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:41 am (9,089 Views)
Tenkoshiro
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I guess it has to be Cao Cao's C6, especially with full skills especially Agility! :lol:
It's so fast and at the same time, strong and has a very wide range!!!
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zenkokuku
Jan 15 2008, 04:23 AM
kejimasters
Jan 15 2008, 09:20 PM
why has nobody said lubu his r1 with him i can get his r1 to kill a general in one hit

The main reason for that is, the HUGE amount of musou usage required to use his R1, and the frequency of that move actually hitting the general is very less. =(
But powerful it is. :)

Same. Granted it is one of the cooler and stronger one's but even with his skill and a huge musou bar, you can only use it a few times. But then you have those guys with really useful R1s like Mitsuhide or Zhou Tai, where they are pretty strong and require no musou. ;)
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:huh: I don't think I've seen anyone post about Lu Xun ...

That guy is a nice officer destroyer as well. His C4 with the right setup is instant KO to most officers. His R1 firewall attack is also a beast.
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gtowneupho1
Jan 15 2008, 03:04 PM
zenkokuku
Jan 15 2008, 04:23 AM
kejimasters
Jan 15 2008, 09:20 PM
why has nobody said lubu his r1 with him i can get his r1 to kill a general in one hit

The main reason for that is, the HUGE amount of musou usage required to use his R1, and the frequency of that move actually hitting the general is very less. =(
But powerful it is. :)

Same. Granted it is one of the cooler and stronger one's but even with his skill and a huge musou bar, you can only use it a few times. But then you have those guys with really useful R1s like Mitsuhide or Zhou Tai, where they are pretty strong and require no musou. ;)

well then you could use the conserve skill to reduce the amount of musou he uses that is what i did
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kejimasters
Jan 15 2008, 11:34 AM
gtowneupho1
Jan 15 2008, 03:04 PM
zenkokuku
Jan 15 2008, 04:23 AM
kejimasters
Jan 15 2008, 09:20 PM
why has nobody said lubu his r1 with him i can get his r1 to kill a general in one hit

The main reason for that is, the HUGE amount of musou usage required to use his R1, and the frequency of that move actually hitting the general is very less. =(
But powerful it is. :)

Same. Granted it is one of the cooler and stronger one's but even with his skill and a huge musou bar, you can only use it a few times. But then you have those guys with really useful R1s like Mitsuhide or Zhou Tai, where they are pretty strong and require no musou. ;)

well then you could use the conserve skill to reduce the amount of musou he uses that is what i did

True, but for PWR characters like Lu Bu who use so much musou on their specials, Conserve doesn't help that much. You would have to have Absorb on his weapon to regain musou, but still it would not be enough and the slot would be better suited for another attribute. Even with Conserve & Refill abilities + Absorb 10 on his weapon, Lu Bu would not be able to regain enough musou to abuse his special that often. Those abilities & attributes are better left for TEC characters, IMO.

I agree it is a powerful move, but just not as abusable as say Dian Wei C3ex which uses maybe a millimeter of musou, yet still wipes out everything within a 20 foot radius.
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Mr.Honda
Jan 15 2008, 10:27 AM
:huh: I don't think I've seen anyone post about Lu Xun ...

That guy is a nice officer destroyer as well. His C4 with the right setup is instant KO to most officers. His R1 firewall attack is also a beast.

Agreed. Lu Xun can be great to use in this game. I find him to be easier to juggle compare to him in 5.

The best officer destroyer for me is Sun Ce. I was able to kill Tadakatsu when I first went up against in Wu Gaiden 7-X without switching back and forth just kept juggling his C4? (I keep getting my charge attacks confused. The one with the fire explosion.) like there was no tomorrow. That ended up depleting his health quickly. He ended up not having any chance to strike back. I was surpised to kill him within seconds because of that plus it's fun spamming his R1 attack like crazy which helps alot too.
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zenkokuku
Jan 15 2008, 10:23 AM
kejimasters
Jan 15 2008, 09:20 PM
why has nobody said lubu his r1 with him i can get his r1 to kill a general in one hit

The main reason for that is, the HUGE amount of musou usage required to use his R1, and the frequency of that move actually hitting the general is very less. =(
But powerful it is. :)

Not same, I think it's quite weak...

btw, Lu Xun is great, I only like Cao Cao better...
Officer Destroyer:
~Cao Cao(C6)
~Yukimura Sanada(R1)
~Lu Xun(C4, R1)
~Orochi(C1)
~Ginchiyo Tachibana(R1)
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Mr.Honda
Jan 15 2008, 09:27 AM
:huh: I don't think I've seen anyone post about Lu Xun ...

That guy is a nice officer destroyer as well. His C4 with the right setup is instant KO to most officers. His R1 firewall attack is also a beast.

You know you're right. I totally forgot about that. Also everyone seems to forget about Zhang Liao as well. His C1 with the right set up is just awesome. I've been through an entire stage just doing that move and only got hit a couple of times. Same works with Diao Chan and a few others. Doesn't seem to be quite as good for Guan Yu though.
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gtowneupho1
Jan 16 2008, 09:24 AM
You know you're right. I totally forgot about that. Also everyone seems to forget about Zhang Liao as well. His C1 with the right set up is just awesome. I've been through an entire stage just doing that move and only got hit a couple of times. Same works with Diao Chan and a few others. Doesn't seem to be quite as good for Guan Yu though.

I totally agre with you on that! It works wonders with Gan Ning, Ling Tong, Ma Chao, Sun Jian, and Xiahou Dun as well. Your right though, Guan Yu's C1 doesn't have that same effect like the others being as his is more on the slow side. Liu Bei's C1 is hard to control when you want to aim in the right direction but if you can hit it perfectly then you shouldn't have much a problem with his.
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Oh I just love doing Gan Ning's. It is just so fun. And I can't remember that well, it's been a few months since I played it, but I think that Zhou Tai has a similar effect on his C1. Either way I like his musou better. Especially, after using the multi-musou feature. The added speed always helps.
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kazxjun
Jan 16 2008, 10:38 AM
gtowneupho1
Jan 16 2008, 09:24 AM
You know you're right. I totally forgot about that. Also everyone seems to forget about Zhang Liao as well. His C1 with the right set up is just awesome. I've been through an entire stage just doing that move and only got hit a couple of times. Same works with Diao Chan and a few others. Doesn't seem to be quite as good for Guan Yu though.

I totally agre with you on that! It works wonders with Gan Ning, Ling Tong, Ma Chao, Sun Jian, and Xiahou Dun as well. Your right though, Guan Yu's C1 doesn't have that same effect like the others being as his is more on the slow side. Liu Bei's C1 is hard to control when you want to aim in the right direction but if you can hit it perfectly then you shouldn't have much a problem with his.

:lol: I just realized that I think I C1 spammed with all those characters listed by you both. In fact, I think I spammed Gan Ning's C1 the entire Wei 7-X stage to get his PI. I don't remember using another move :lol:

Agreed that Guan Yu C1 doesn't seem as effective as the others mentioned. I also liked abusing Xing Cai's C1. IMO, it really helps her alot to get that defensive buff and that move seems to have good elemental activation on it as well.

Wait, did anyone say Zhu Rong yet? :blink: Her R1 attack is massive against both crowds and officers and her C1 breakdance has heavy element activation as well. I liked pairing her with Yuan Shao & using his attack buff then switching back to her. Jie Ting Chaos is a walk in the park with that pair :P
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Yeah, It forgot about her as well. I love her R1, I just can't aim it very well. And I love her C1. It's just hilarious to see her destroy crowds by break dancing.

And speaking of buffs. Anyone ever tried this? Pick Guan Ping, Yuan Shao, and Cao Cao. Do the two buffs then if you've got the right stuff on Guan Ping spam his C4. I don't believe I've done that much damage with many other characters. Went to Wu's last Gaiden on chaos mode, didn't get hit a single time by anybody.
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gtowneupho1
Jan 16 2008, 11:02 AM
Yeah, It forgot about her as well. I love her R1, I just can't aim it very well. And I love her C1. It's just hilarious to see her destroy crowds by break dancing.

And speaking of buffs. Anyone ever tried this? Pick Guan Ping, Yuan Shao, and Cao Cao. Do the two buffs then if you've got the right stuff on Guan Ping spam his C4. I don't believe I've done that much damage with many other characters. Went to Wu's last Gaiden on chaos mode, didn't get hit a single time by anybody.

:lol: Someone did a YouTube video of that actually. That's where I learned about attack buff's stacking ;)

Just imagine the same with Yuan Shao + Cao Cao + Honda Tadakatsu or Guan Yu or even Miyamoto Musashi :blink: Can we say 3X attack power?
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Hehehe, that's actually where I got the idea from.

And OMG @ your idea. I'm so going to try that. *evil grin*
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Zhu Rong's R1 is great for spam attacking. I used that when playing her on Hard mode when I was getting 4th weapons. I find it to be the best attack ever. I also love using SSX's C1 which I forgot to mention earlier. It may have a bit of a disadvantage with it's attack not covering larger crowds but it's fun to use.

I like speed buffing Hideyoshi up and start switching to other characters especially with Lu Bu in Wu Story 8X to unlock his PI. That worked wonders for me. Sun Quan on the other hand, I can go mad crazy with his R1 and C4 attack just for the heck of it.
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Okay hanzo heres the strategy

Weapon Stats needed
Ice
Slay
Range
Agility
Boly
Absorb
Anything else
Then just keep using Square x3 Then R1
Kills easily in chaos!!!!
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Jan 16 2008, 06:19 PM
Okay hanzo heres the strategy

Weapon Stats needed
Ice
Slay
Range
Agility
Boly
Absorb
Anything else
Then just keep using Square x3 Then R1
Kills easily in chaos!!!!

Bolt, Flash, Slay, Absorb, Air, Brave, Range, Might

This also works well because he is a TEC character & therefore benefits from critical hits & his C4ex with Bolt lifts opponents off the ground & Air does the rest. I used your setup with Ice and yes, it is powerful but try switching to the above. With Air, Might & Brave, I guarantee that he kills anything & everything with his C4ex. Also, Ice doesn't work too well with TEC characters, per opfer_gv's guide.
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Personal favorites in no particular order...

Kunoichi - Turn invincible. Spam C2. The end.

Cao Ren - For his useful, efficient, and fun bounce combos. C2-ex throwing Lu Bu or Orochi into a stomp juggle never gets old.

Lu Xun - As was mentioned, he has a painful R1 special and a C4 that basically carries the death element because it hits twice with all that awesome tech critical w00tn3ss.

Yue Ying - Fire up the C6-ex blender and watch everything die.
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Bolt, Flash, Slay, Absorb, Air, Brave, Range, Might


This also works well because he is a TEC character & therefore benefits from critical hits & his C4ex with Bolt lifts opponents off the ground & Air does the rest. I used your setup with Ice and yes, it is powerful but try switching to the above. With Air, Might & Brave, I guarantee that he kills anything & everything with his C4ex. Also, Ice doesn't work too well with TEC characters, per opfer_gv's guide.

Well yeah ill try that!
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:o *slaps forehead*

I can't believe I forgot Yue Ying. You're 100% right Rydain, that C6ex of hers does wipe out everything. Plus the fact that her standalone R1 can get them airborne to start, then turn on that blender :lol: for additional destructive pleasure.
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That's exactly why Yue Ying is permanently in my line up. Her blender attack is a sight to behold..she makes spear users look good. A lot of them have good move sets, but do not utilize the range spears have like she does.
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Mitsunaris R1 Spam isnt That Great on Chaos only On Hard Mode and Lower.Have you tried kunocihis R1 Then C2 Spam.Heres a Tip To do it

Needed Weapon Stats
Bolt
Slay
Agility(Needs to Be lvl 7 or Higher)
Flame
Air(NEEDED!)
Might or Rage
Absorb
Drain

Add Any Two More you Want Try Range!
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I agree, his R1 takes two hits on Chaos for peons, only one for Hard & lower.

Here's my preferred setup:

Bolt, Flash, Slay, Absorb, Range, Multi, Agility, Might (again, from opfer_gv's guide)

I'm surprised you don't have Flash :blink: That's one of the essential attributes, IMO. It breaks guard on every Charge attack, even hyper PWR-type generals. His C4 attack + R1 will take out most officers with ease with the above setup.
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Mr.Honda
Jan 17 2008, 12:42 PM
I agree, his R1 takes two hits on Chaos for peons, only one for Hard & lower.

Here's my preferred setup:

Bolt, Flash, Slay, Absorb, Range, Multi, Agility, Might (again, from opfer_gv's guide)

I'm surprised you don't have Flash :blink: That's one of the essential attributes, IMO. It breaks guard on every Charge attack, even hyper PWR-type generals. His C4 attack + R1 will take out most officers with ease with the above setup.

Well im Not a Flash User maybe ill Start using That!
Heres one For Gan Ning But Mr.Honda i think your Know it Though.The C1 Spam!^^ :rolleyes:
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Jan 16 2008, 11:08 AM
gtowneupho1
Jan 16 2008, 11:02 AM
Yeah, It forgot about her as well. I love her R1, I just can't aim it very well. And I love her C1. It's just hilarious to see her destroy crowds by break dancing.

And speaking of buffs. Anyone ever tried this? Pick Guan Ping, Yuan Shao, and Cao Cao. Do the two buffs then if you've got the right stuff on Guan Ping spam his C4. I don't believe I've done that much damage with many other characters. Went to Wu's last Gaiden on chaos mode, didn't get hit a single time by anybody.

:lol: Someone did a YouTube video of that actually. That's where I learned about attack buff's stacking ;)

Just imagine the same with Yuan Shao + Cao Cao + Honda Tadakatsu or Guan Yu or even Miyamoto Musashi :blink: Can we say 3X attack power?

Ok, I tried this in Shu 5-X Battle of Jie Ting (Chaos Mode) ... let's just say that it just wasn't fair, for the enemy that is.

I used Tadakatsu Honda + Yuan Shao + Cao Cao, used YS & CC attack buffs, then activated Tadakatsu's R1 next to the 1st enemy officer I came across ... :blink: 1-shot KO

I thought ok, he was a generic so I'll let that one slide & try it on a non-generic. So I charged straight towards Masamune and on the way met up with SSX & her generic ...

1-shot KO on SSX while she was still on her horse. :blink: :blink: :lol:

Plus I took out her generic at the same time. :lol: 2-shot KO for Masamune. ;) My Tadakatsu wasn't @ level 99 until after defeating Masamune. He gained 5+ levels by defeating those 4 officers (started @ level 94 I think)

I tried repeating this with Lu Bu instead of Tadakatsu, but Lu Bu couldn't defeat the 1st generic officer in 1-shot with his R1. Keiji or Guan Yu might be able to, but not Lu Bu.
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