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Who is your favorite?
Sanada Yukimura 21 (65.6%)
Chousokabe Morichika 2 (6.3%)
Ban Danemon 2 (6.3%)
Goto Matabei 3 (9.4%)
Kimura Shigenari 2 (6.3%)
Akashi Teruzumi 0 (0%)
Mouri Katsunaga 1 (3.1%)
Ono Harunaga 0 (0%)
Someone else 1 (3.1%)
Total Votes: 32
Defenders of Osaka Castle
Topic Started: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:39 pm (1,207 Views)
LoW
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I'm pretty sure that list doesn't have all defenders so I decided to add 'Someone else' just in case. If you guys think the poll misses someone, tell his name and I'll add him.

For me, it's hard choice. They all did great job but I would probably go with Yukimura or Danemon. I'll give my reasons later >_>.
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SlickSlicer
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My favorites are Chosokabe Morichika and Kimura Shigenari. The latter was very brave, and while he did unfortunately lose (I think at the Battle of wakae) eventually, he was at least committed to the cause of the Osaka defenders.
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Sanada Yukimasa
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i vote for yukimura but, kimura shigenari was brve...didnt he light his hair on fire be fore he marched...
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Shogun
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My favorites are Sanada Yukimura, Chousokabe Morichika, Goto Matabei, and Ono Harunaga.
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Sanada Yukimasa
Jul 13 2007, 08:00 PM
i vote for yukimura but, kimura shigenari was brve...didnt he light his hair on fire be fore he marched...

That's a Kessen rumor.

What he actually did was burn incense in his helmet before he went to battle at wakae. He did this so that if he died, his head would make for a better prize. Kind of a weird thing to do, but a lot of the Osaka defenders were kind of weird in general.
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Shinpusan
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My vote goes to Kimura Shigenari.
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atarei
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Absolutely loved Yukimura with his Barbicans and three charge into Ieyasu camp to give him the jeeble weebles of a nightmare or so the rumour went :lol:
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MitsunariIshida
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I voted for Sanada Yukimura.I also have a question,didnt Miyamoto Musashi particpate during the Osaka campagin with the Toyotomi.I know in SW2 and other historical information site about him says that he did particpate in Osaka but i just need a confirmation if its true.
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MitsunariIshida
Aug 4 2007, 07:11 PM
I voted for Sanada Yukimura.I also have a question,didnt Miyamoto Musashi particpate during the Osaka campagin with the Toyotomi.I know in SW2 and other historical information site about him says that he did particpate in Osaka but i just need a confirmation if its true.

It is unknown of whether or not Musashi fought for the West or East for that matter, but he could've been one of the ronin Hideyori gathered before the Osaka Campaign.
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Gummster
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Musashi actually fought for Ieyasu at the battle of Osaka, I think they put him with Toyotomi because of the friendship he with Yukimura in the game.

As for who's my favourite defender of course I'll go for Yukimura, because, epic charge!
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Kratos Aurion
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Mouri Katsunaga. hes the man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mori_Katsunaga

I dont usually trust wackypedia, but whatever..
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atarei
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Gummster could you please quote the source you found Musashi to be DEFINITELY fighting for Ieyasu? Most i read so far seems to think he fought for the Toyotomi but there is a certain disrepancy as in how he actually escaped unscathed.
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Shogun
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We don't know whether he fought for the Tokugawa or Toyotomi, Gummster, please cite your source(s).
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Lord_Nagamasa
Aug 5 2007, 02:03 AM
Mouri Katsunaga. hes the man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mori_Katsunaga

I dont usually trust wackypedia, but whatever..

Mouri Katsunaga played an important role alongside Sanada Yukimura at the Battle of Tennoji. Personally I don't think he played as important a role, but he was still there and still did a lot of damage in the Osaka defender's initial charge. He was a worthy defender.
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No love for Ban The Man >_>? I think he's pretty interesting character since he fought at Korea and like Goto Matabei, he fought for Eastern army at Sekigahara but then joined with Toyotomi forces at Osaka.

I often considered him as fusion of Wei Yan and Yukimura ^_^.
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Never heard about him fighting in Korea or Sekigahara. Where did you get that?
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SlickSlicer
Aug 6 2007, 06:09 AM
Never heard about him fighting in Korea or Sekigahara. Where did you get that?

Wikipedia and Kessen are my only sources, unfortunetly. He fought at Korea and Sekigahara under the service of Kato Yoshiaki (I thought you knew that :huh: ) but later Ban disobeyed his orders and became a ronin.

But I have no idea why he decided to side with Toyotomi at Osaka >_>.
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I think I may have heard about the Sekigahara thing, but I don't know if he served in Korea. And who did Matabei serve under at Sekigahara? I might be confusing the two.

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Aug 6 2007, 08:54 AM
I think I may have heard about the Sekigahara thing, but I don't know if he served in Korea. And who did Matabei serve under at Sekigahara? I might be confusing the two.

The Kuroda I believe.
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vincent5400
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Yukimura. His charges for Ieyasu's base camp were epic.
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vincent5400
Sep 4 2007, 04:49 PM
Yukimura. His charges for Ieyasu's base camp were epic.

Sorry to be off topic, but just as I change my avatar someone joins with my old 1 :blink:
A bit odd... :wacko:

Nice choice in Avatar though :lol:
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YukiZM
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1: Sanada Yukimura
2: Kimura Shigenari
3: Mori Katsunaga
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MysteriousStranger08
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Yukimura

Why is Harunaga even on thier? I think it was him (or his brother Harufasa) who runied the siege for the Toyotomi.

At the final battle of Tennoji, Hideyori was supposed to sally from the castle and hit the Tokugawa flank, but one of the Ono's held him back due their distrust of Yukimura (because he had divised the strategy)
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SRS
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I believe it was Harunaga who did that.

I'm going to lock this and remake it due to it being old and some options being present/not present.
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