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Toshiie Maeda; SW2:XL debut!
Topic Started: Aug 26 2007, 01:55 AM (3,692 Views)
MysteriousStranger08
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Meh, an okay character.

Not bad movset, although his Musou is strikingly simmilar to Nagamasa, and he hardly ever uses his spears. (Are they there for decoration or something :blink: )

Personality is a failure. Toshiie's Story mode brought about two failures. Toshiie's "Katsuie is amazing and the best, why am I listening to Hideyoshi" and Hideyoshi's "Lets leave Nobunaga to die."

A fine fighter but a dull personality

(He also gets pwned by two men, both shorter than him, and one not as strong as him at all. Blockhead)
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one of my favourite character good moveset and great personality
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MysteriousStranger08
Sep 1 2009, 08:23 AM
Meh, an okay character.

Not bad movset, although his Musou is strikingly simmilar to Nagamasa, and he hardly ever uses his spears. (Are they there for decoration or something :blink: )

Personality is a failure. Toshiie's Story mode brought about two failures. Toshiie's "Katsuie is amazing and the best, why am I listening to Hideyoshi" and Hideyoshi's "Lets leave Nobunaga to die."

A fine fighter but a dull personality

(He also gets pwned by two men, both shorter than him, and one not as strong as him at all. Blockhead)
Well in his defense he does use his spears on every charge attack (most of which are pretty darn good IMO) and he did beat the crap out of Hideyoshi on his ending.
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Sadly, that ending was cut from English localization which I still find ridiculous >_>. Bah, it was the only part I was looking forward to while playing his Story mode.
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I believe it was only cut from the EU version. My NA copy still has it in. Always found it strange they did that, though.

As for Toshiie in SW3, I hope he gets a story change. It's fine that he's close to Katsuie and feels torn between fighting for him or Hideyoshi, but he should feel more like an Oda officer than a subordinate of Katsuie's. Also, since Kanetsugu got his famous helmet, I'm hoping Toshiie gets his too.
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You mean the yellow helmet like in Nobunaga's Ambition? That is cool if they add it.
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Sep 5 2009, 09:10 PM
You mean the yellow helmet like in Nobunaga's Ambition? That is cool if they add it.
No helmet he's perfect the way he is.
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Sep 5 2009, 06:04 PM
Sadly, that ending was cut from English localization which I still find ridiculous >_>. Bah, it was the only part I was looking forward to while playing his Story mode.
It's in my game... it would've been more satisfying if Toshiie wasn't acting like such a suck-up up until then.

He really needs to be his own man.

Toshiie was a guy so devoted to Nobunaga that even when Nobunaga cast him out Toshiie never quit serving him and worked his way back on his own merits. I was really disappointed by his love-fest over Katsuie.
Edited by Amakusa, Sep 5 2009, 10:06 PM.
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This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore....
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So you guys can confirm that it is in NA copy? Since I know that some people who bought NA copy of the game said that they didn't have the original Japanese ending either.

Now if only someone would post it on Youtube since I'd love to see it.

//Anyway, I still think Toshiie was a total fail story and personality wise, even if they had included his original ending in the PAL version. Usually I have something good to say about the character's story/personality, but in Toshiie's case, I can't come up with anything.

//Wohoo, finally, I found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOLzWYi3A_s&feature=related

Well, I was right, that ending certainly makes up for some of Toshiie's bad character traits. However, I still can't help but to feel that his story was unfinished. He constantly keeps saying that he wants to make a name of himself and become a great warrior. Did that ever happen? We don't know since his story ends immediately after Katsuie is gone. If you ask me, his last Story stage or Dream stage should have been Odawara or Sekigahara where he would show everyone what Katsuie and Hideyoshi taught him.
Edited by LoW, Sep 5 2009, 11:13 PM.
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Yeah that's not in the EU version I have. Argh. What a shame I've never seen someone take a beaten like that in a Warriors game, I don't think. Really quite emotional, on par with the likes of Zhuge Liang's ending in 5 and Oichi's in SW2.

Perhaps we may see him more devoted to Nobunaga in SW3.
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I like his new look a lot, and is it just me or does he look a lot more fierce now? Like one worthy of being Katsuie's apprentice. His skin looks a little paler, his facial expression in a lot more menacing and the fur+darker armour give him a more rugged look, as opposed to the clean cut golden boy in XL.

Hopefully the new colour scheme is a hint towards a more Oda orientated Toshiie as opposed to the Katsuie/Hideyoshi fanboy in XL. More interactions with Nobunaga are a must, but also Keiji as well. IIRC the only time he even aknowledged Keiji existed was in his dream stage with like one line: "Keiji what are YOU doing here?!"
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I didn't particularly enjoy him in SW2XL (I'm going to get slammed for this...). His character came off, to me, far too annoying, in fact almost whiny. His costume didn't make him look original, which fortunately SW3 fixed. I was disappointed that he and Keiji didn't interact more (I don't know if they did historically, but I think that would work better). His moveset didn't really stand out for me either... I dunno, I felt like maybe his character was rushed. So far I like how he looks in SW3 and I hope that the game continues to increase my opinion of him. I didn't like Keiji at first either so who knows? Maybe great Maeda's work the same way? Eh, bad joke...
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I thought his moveset was crazy good but his voice and personality didn't fit hiis age,or what he looked like at least,like 22 to 25.
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