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Dynasty Warriors 6 [v4]
Topic Started: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:40 pm (62,676 Views)
Diao Chan
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has there been any news these two days?
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Diao Chan
Oct 3 2007, 10:35 PM
has there been any news these two days?

Just the scan showing Zhou Yu, Zhang Fei, and Xiahou Dun.
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Diao Chan
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Oct 4 2007, 04:40 AM
Diao Chan
Oct 3 2007, 10:35 PM
has there been any news these two days?

Just the scan showing Zhou Yu, Zhang Fei, and Xiahou Dun.

oh, I had hoped for more characters to be revealed but I think that it might be cool, I just hope that there would be some characters being revealed tommorow.
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The Demon King
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Scans are only released on Wednesdays, so its very doubtful we are going to have some news tomorrow. Maybe a site update on Friday, but that will consist of the pictures included in the scans.
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The Demon King
Oct 4 2007, 03:57 PM
Scans are only released on Wednesdays, so its very doubtful we are going to have some news tomorrow. Maybe a site update on Friday, but that will consist of the pictures included in the scans.

And considering we have already received ones of Zhang Fei & Xiahou Dun I'd only expect full CG models etc for Zhou Yu and no more for the remainder of the week.

It’s a little disappointing and this slow release my belief that some characters will be cut increases...
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Oct 4 2007, 06:28 AM
The Demon King
Oct 4 2007, 03:57 PM
Scans are only released on Wednesdays, so its very doubtful we are going to have some news tomorrow. Maybe a site update on Friday, but that will consist of the pictures included in the scans.

And considering we have already received ones of Zhang Fei & Xiahou Dun I'd only expect full CG models etc for Zhou Yu and no more for the remainder of the week.

It’s a little disappointing and this slow release my belief that some characters will be cut increases...

Don't worry, if Zhang Jiao is still in as a playable, then they won't have cut to many, if they have cut any.
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The Demon King
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Why do you say that? Even though Zhang Jiao plays a little role in the game, its a very important one. If it wasn't for the Yellow Turban Rebellion and other rebels of the time period then we will never have had the Three Kingdoms era. The year long battles left the Han very weak and open to corruption, in which Dong Zhou took advantage of. That rebellion led the Han to increase the allowance of armies running local governments. With that chaos stemmed forth, you know the rest.
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The Demon King
Oct 4 2007, 07:40 AM
Why do you say that? Even though Zhang Jiao plays a little role in the game, its a very important one. If it wasn't for the Yellow Turban Rebellion and other rebels of the time period then we will never have had the Three Kingdoms era. The year long battles left the Han very weak and open to corruption, in which Dong Zhou took advantage of. That rebellion led the Han to increase the allowance of armies running local governments. With that chaos stemmed forth, you know the rest.

Where as that is true...Zhang Jiao's NEVER had a good MS or stats. Nor does he have a particularly interesting Musou Mode. He could easily be thrown in as a Unique Model, who still holds importance, though not playable.
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TheRyanHimself
Oct 4 2007, 12:47 PM
The Demon King
Oct 4 2007, 07:40 AM
Why do you say that? Even though Zhang Jiao plays a little role in the game, its a very important one. If it wasn't for the Yellow Turban Rebellion and other rebels of the time period then we will never have had the Three Kingdoms era. The year long battles left the Han very weak and open to corruption, in which Dong Zhou took advantage of. That rebellion led the Han to increase the allowance of armies running local governments. With that chaos stemmed forth, you know the rest.

Where as that is true...Zhang Jiao's NEVER had a good MS or stats. Nor does he have a particularly interesting Musou Mode. He could easily be thrown in as a Unique Model, who still holds importance, though not playable.

Aww...but I love his story modes!!! Especially when he goes around converting people!! And his lines...gets me into stitches throughout the game!! "There's another disbeliever converted!!!" Can a line get anymore original!? "HEAVEN!!!!"
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winkster
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I have to agree. Playing as the Yellow Turbans is always hilarious.
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Oct 4 2007, 12:40 PM
Why do you say that? Even though Zhang Jiao plays a little role in the game, its a very important one. If it wasn't for the Yellow Turban Rebellion and other rebels of the time period then we will never have had the Three Kingdoms era. The year long battles left the Han very weak and open to corruption, in which Dong Zhou took advantage of. That rebellion led the Han to increase the allowance of armies running local governments. With that chaos stemmed forth, you know the rest.

I said playable, because frankly he is pretty worthless as a playable character. His moveset is really, really bad, and his story is pretty pointless. I mean you can include him as a NPC for the yellow turban rebellion, but he shouldn't really be a playable character.
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Zhou Yu is looking, well, kinda manly now. "Pyro" looks more feminine than him now. And that FMV of him and Zhuge Liang being in the day makes me think that either Chi Bi is in the day like some of you have notitced, or we may see the time of day change as the stage progresses, ala SW1. But with his new weapon and that small screenshot I see some Kilik in him as well, which is expected.

And we got Dun and Zhang Fei again, WTH Koei?
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winkster
Oct 4 2007, 08:32 AM
I have to agree. Playing as the Yellow Turbans is always hilarious.

Don't get me wrong, I love his character. I think he's ridiculously funny, but as far as his DIRECT influence on the Three Kingdom's period...I don't find it as important as people who actually LIVED during the Three Kingdoms.

And to this day I can't seem to understand why he is regarded as bad. IMO all he did was lead the suffering population of China into battle with the feuding, hateful, selfish, eunuch ruled empire. Oh well...any enemy of Cheng Pu is an enemy of mine.
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As for the subject of Zhang Jiao, you guys can forget about him leaving. He plays too important a role to just get rid of. He lead to the wars that started the 3K era. Now what I'd like to see as far as scans go is some action of Zhou Yu. I'm willing to bet that his renbu will be similar in a way to Lu Xun's. Or it might just me some giant ball of fire that explodes killing hundreds of enemies. Then again that's a little too much lke FF for Koei to do.
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iKing
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TALK ABOUT ZHANG JIAO ON THIS THREAD PEOPLE
ZHANG JIAO
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GoW
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King Of Wei
Oct 4 2007, 03:01 PM
TALK ABOUT ZHANG JIAO ON THIS THREAD PEOPLE
ZHANG JIAO

Stop auditioning to be a mod King of Wei.

Anyway, since the whole game is getting a facelift, maybe even Zhang Jiao will become a respectible character in some aspects. I mean I've seen Zhuge Liang using telekinisis in some of his moves. Zhang actually claimed to have mystic powers, so we will see.
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Making Zhang Jiao a unique NPC will be a backwards move IMO, if they do that why not go ahead and do the same to Dong Zhou, Meng Huo, Zhu Rong, almost all of the other characters who did not has as big as an impact as the kingdom based ones. Zhang Jiao may be a religious lunatic and his moveset may suck (I actually liked it), but the reality is his part is too of a one to just recant it. They added him in DW3XL for a reason.

Now the removals of Imagawa, Kunoichi and Goemon are somewhat justified. Imagawa because he did not fit in the timeline of SW2, Kunoichi who was a fictional representation of the Sanada Ten Braves and Goemon who might have been based on a folk hero and really didn't do any battling in the Sengoku period.

If Koei went that route then why did they include Musashi Miyamoto and Sasaki Kojiro. They were Samurai Warriors in name only, they never really participated in the battles outlined in SW2.

Going back full circle, I base my keeping of Zhang Jiao on the fact that his role had a ripple effect on Ancient China. Not being able to play his story will be a great injustice to the Three Kingdoms period.
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Oct 4 2007, 03:09 PM
King Of Wei
Oct 4 2007, 03:01 PM
TALK ABOUT ZHANG JIAO ON THIS THREAD PEOPLE
ZHANG JIAO

Stop auditioning to be a mod King of Wei.

Anyway, since the whole game is getting a facelift, maybe even Zhang Jiao will become a respectible character in some aspects. I mean I've seen Zhuge Liang using telekinisis in some of his moves. Zhang actually claimed to have mystic powers, so we will see.

what! i am not trying to be a mod
i don't want to be a mod
i just made a thread with zhang jiao
so i thought that if you want to talk about him you could go into that thread instead of posting about him here.
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"They added him in DW3XL for a reason. "

Wasn´t he in DW2?
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Endless_Light
Oct 4 2007, 03:20 PM
"They added him in DW3XL for a reason. "

Wasn´t he in DW2?

Not that I know of. Demon King makes good points, but you must remember, Diao Chan is fictional as well. And it looks as if she and the other females who had nothing to do with battle (except Zhu Rong) are here to stay.
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Oct 4 2007, 09:26 AM
Endless_Light
Oct 4 2007, 03:20 PM
"They added him in DW3XL for a reason. "

Wasn´t he in DW2?

Not that I know of. Demon King makes good points, but you must remember, Diao Chan is fictional as well. And it looks as if she and the other females who had nothing to do with battle (except Zhu Rong) are here to stay.

He was a playable character in DW3 but like all the other Others characters did not get a musou mode until DW3:XL.
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The Demon King
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I forgot he was playable in DW2. I just popped in my copy to check. Also Diao Chan may have not participated in any battles but she had as much of an impact as Zhang Jiao. Due to her and her adoptive father double crossing Dong Zhuo with Lu Bu's help, some stability was added to the Han and Dong Zhuo's evil reign ended.

I remember early on in the book, Dong Zhuo goes outside for a ride when he sees a group of people in the street celebrating. He tells his men to kill each and every man and cut off their heads. Dong ties all the heads to his carriage and comes back to the Emperor's palace saying he just defeated a group of bandits and should be rewarded. Now thats damn evil.
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The Demon King
Oct 4 2007, 04:38 PM
I forgot he was playable in DW2. I just popped in my copy to check. Also Diao Chan may have not participated in any battles but she had as much of an impact as Zhang Jiao. Due to her and her adoptive father double crossing Dong Zhuo with Lu Bu's help, some stability was added to the Han and Dong Zhuo's evil reign ended.

I remember early on in the book, Dong Zhuo goes outside for a ride when he sees a group of people in the street celebrating. He tells his men to kill each and every man and cut off their heads. Dong ties all the heads to his carriage and comes back to the Emperor's palace saying he just defeated a group of bandits and should be rewarded. Now thats damn evil.

i remember raeding that

another really bad part of the book is when Cao Cao was running away from Dong Zhuo and he goes to his dads oath brother to hide for the night he takes him in, long story short Cao Cao ends up killing every one of his dads oath brothers family by accident :blink: when i read that i was like wooooooooo :(

but also back on topic i realy do think that Zhang Jiao is quite important think of it this way if there was no yellow turban rebelion there would be not 3 oath brothers to make such a big name for them selfs

heck they would never have met :o
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