Kanetsugu Naoe

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How would you rate him?
Great moveset, great personality	49 (59%)
Great moveset, poor personality	24 (28.9%)
Poor moveset, great personality	7 (8.4%)
Poor moveset, poor personality	3 (3.6%)
Total Votes: 83

Kanetsugu Naoe; Most hated?
Topic Started: Oct 4 2007, 04:10 PM (4,258 Views)
T.e.n	Oct 4 2007, 04:10 PM Post #1
Obsessive Yue Ying Fan OMG Posts: 1,696 Group: Members Member #9,822 Joined: September 20, 2007 Gender Male	Quick anecdote (not even) - I recently bought Musou Orochi for PS2 because I was craving something new and it was prime for character interaction and new alliances, etc. But to my surprise, beyond that I found something new - the Sengoku Musou characters are pretty cool (ironically, in Sengoku I have tended towards to men while I Dynasty Warriors I love the women way more). So yeah, I was browsing though who I'd unlocked when I came across Kanetsugu Naoe. I was in love. Well, not really but I thought he was awesome. And I started playing with him and I just thought he was so fun! He uses seals and a sword and he respects and understands love and honour and I think he has an amazing visual design. It really stands out among the group work and I think it's pretty gorgeous. Plus, I like the fact he has this cool thick lips - Nice visual differentiation and big lipped people need love. Actually, it's more like he's good looking but not in a very typical way, so I like. Then I go to the dreaded internet. Oh, dreaded internet - Through you I learn that Naoe is hated with a venom because of his incessant love and honour talk and his big lips and the like. Maybe not here on KW, but in LJ communities and the like he seems to be pretty reviled. My heart! Broken! But not really! My first thought was 'Man, I lived through DW5's Yue Ying 'My husband! My husband! My husband! I wish I was my husband! I love my husband!'' so I don't know if these people knew pain. Granted, my only exposure of playing with him is through Musou Orochi. I've never played any of the Samurai Warrior games at all, and now I want to get the one he's in. Anyways, what do you guys think? Do you hate him? Or join forces with me for the Kanetsugu love?
	From the moment of birth, every human being wants happiness and does not want suffering. - Tenzin Gyatso


M.O.G.	Oct 4 2007, 04:17 PM Post #2
Michael on my right, and Raziel on my left Posts: 4,900 Group: Moderators Member #7,647 Joined: May 30, 2007 Gender Male	I'll join. His talk about love is no worse than Ma Chao's talk about justice. He has one of the best MS a great design and a very enjoyable story line in SW2.
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GoW	Oct 4 2007, 04:19 PM Post #3
KOEI Warriors Unifier Posts: 1,757 Group: Members Member #7,496 Joined: May 22, 2007	To be honest tenno, the love, honor, and justice talk is a bit over the top at times. But its no worse than Ma Chao. However if you've played the Odawara level in SW2 that quote is one that will stand the test of time in all warriors games. It makes some cringe but its still memorable. Now as a character I really like him in the game. Alot like his boy Mitsunari, it took a while for him to grow on me. The two of them even without attack bonuses on thier weapons make up for it with pretty good movesets. His string all the way to his C4 is good to me. Good at clearing crowds and his level 3 musou rules. He's even good on a horse as well. But in Warriors Orochi, he's one of the ones that gained a lackluster special. Thats only my opinion now, Ive heard some people use it for certain things and it works for them. They did tone his persona down a little in WO, but they did that to everyone in a way.



T.e.n	Oct 4 2007, 04:52 PM Post #4
Obsessive Yue Ying Fan OMG Posts: 1,696 Group: Members Member #9,822 Joined: September 20, 2007 Gender Male	gtowneupho1 Oct 4 2007, 03:17 PM I'll join. His talk about love is no worse than Ma Chao's talk about justice. He has one of the best MS a great design and a very enjoyable story line in SW2. Is it ironic that I want to stab or laugh at Ma Chao for that, but the honour talk doesn't get me going? I don't know but thanks for the solidarity bwaha. And his Musou (what I've seen) is amazing. "G. O. W." To be honest tenno, the love, honor, and justice talk is a bit over the top at times. But its no worse than Ma Chao. However if you've played the Odawara level in SW2 that quote is one that will stand the test of time in all warriors games. It makes some cringe but its still memorable. Now as a character I really like him in the game. Alot like his boy Mitsunari, it took a while for him to grow on me. The two of them even without attack bonuses on thier weapons make up for it with pretty good movesets. His string all the way to his C4 is good to me. Good at clearing crowds and his level 3 musou rules. He's even good on a horse as well. But in Warriors Orochi, he's one of the ones that gained a lackluster special. Thats only my opinion now, Ive heard some people use it for certain things and it works for them. They did tone his persona down a little in WO, but they did that to everyone in a way. Hey, I understand! If it's anything like Ma Chao, then of course it's over the top. :lol: See, I've never played any Samurai Warriors games period - Do you think I should pick them up? Other than him, Magoichi and Okuni I'm not too interested but maybe I should... Who knows. So he's worse in Warriors Orochi? Wow, considering he's that fun there... I wonder what it's like to play him in SW2. I like chaining the darts together on a higher difficulty general because they're... well, chainable but I think it's alright. I mostly like his R1 C4. Really~? Hmmmm. That's all cool to find out...
	From the moment of birth, every human being wants happiness and does not want suffering. - Tenzin Gyatso


GoW	Oct 4 2007, 04:58 PM Post #5
KOEI Warriors Unifier Posts: 1,757 Group: Members Member #7,496 Joined: May 22, 2007	tennoarashi Oct 4 2007, 03:52 PM See, I've never played any Samurai Warriors games period - Do you think I should pick them up? Never...played...SW.......faints. Well most will tell you to pick up SW2, But I think you should play the original to see how it all started. It really changed how we saw the entire warriors game genre. No Kanetsugu is not in it, but you will like it if you give it a chance.



TheRyanHimself	Oct 4 2007, 04:59 PM Post #6
The children of Evil are truly insane. Posts: 1,517 Group: Members Member #8,963 Joined: August 4, 2007	I enjoy anyone who sides against Tokugawa. I'm in.



T.e.n	Oct 4 2007, 05:03 PM Post #7
Obsessive Yue Ying Fan OMG Posts: 1,696 Group: Members Member #9,822 Joined: September 20, 2007 Gender Male	G. O. W. Oct 4 2007, 03:58 PM tennoarashi Oct 4 2007, 03:52 PM See, I've never played any Samurai Warriors games period - Do you think I should pick them up? Never...played...SW.......faints. Well most will tell you to pick up SW2, But I think you should play the original to see how it all started. It really changed how we saw the entire warriors game genre. No Kanetsugu is not in it, but you will like it if you give it a chance. Psh, I picked up DW on a whim becuase I like certain Japanese interpretations of Chinese culture. :lol: Of course I wouldn't pick up Samurai Warriors considering I'm a little sick of the superhype Japanophiles tend to create. But if you guys they're good, then I shall. Besides, in SW1 I still have Magoichi, Okuni and No. And they're fun. @TheRyanHimself - Bahahha, but Tokugawa's so cute. Imagine him as a plushie.
	From the moment of birth, every human being wants happiness and does not want suffering. - Tenzin Gyatso


TheRyanHimself	Oct 4 2007, 05:06 PM Post #8
The children of Evil are truly insane. Posts: 1,517 Group: Members Member #8,963 Joined: August 4, 2007	tennoarashi Oct 4 2007, 11:03 AM @TheRyanHimself - Bahahha, but Tokugawa's so cute. Imagine him as a plushie. NO! Not plushie Ieyasu! Little arms...rounded hands...HE IS THE POSTER BOY FOR PLUSH!



T.e.n	Oct 4 2007, 05:15 PM Post #9
Obsessive Yue Ying Fan OMG Posts: 1,696 Group: Members Member #9,822 Joined: September 20, 2007 Gender Male	TheRyanHimself Oct 4 2007, 04:06 PM tennoarashi Oct 4 2007, 11:03 AM @TheRyanHimself - Bahahha, but Tokugawa's so cute. Imagine him as a plushie. NO! Not plushie Ieyasu! Little arms...rounded hands...HE IS THE POSTER BOY FOR PLUSH! With a giant cute spear of Doom. Well, here's a question - What would you guys do to 'improve' Kanetsugu?
	From the moment of birth, every human being wants happiness and does not want suffering. - Tenzin Gyatso


Tesouken	Oct 5 2007, 09:31 AM Post #10
Han's Unifier Posts: 1,131 Group: Banned Member #9,993 Joined: September 28, 2007	Ive always liked naoe, exept for his horrible mousou attack wich misses 99% of the projectiles. (maybe he couldnt aim because his lips where in his line of sight) No, to be honest i never even noticed his lips. I guess im not a guy-lip kind of person. He has an interesting image, and i dont mind the love and honor comments. If i need to be irritated by anything it will definatly be the new voice of hideyoshi, it made me quit using him alltogether. Naoe is like a soft breeze in my ears compared to hideyoshi.



Astus	Oct 5 2007, 09:47 AM Post #11
Frakkin' Toaster Posts: 2,749 Group: Admins Member #8,568 Joined: July 17, 2007 Gender Male	tennoarashi Oct 4 2007, 04:15 PM TheRyanHimself Oct 4 2007, 04:06 PM tennoarashi Oct 4 2007, 11:03 AM @TheRyanHimself - Bahahha, but Tokugawa's so cute. Imagine him as a plushie. NO! Not plushie Ieyasu! Little arms...rounded hands...HE IS THE POSTER BOY FOR PLUSH! With a giant cute spear of Doom. Well, here's a question - What would you guys do to 'improve' Kanetsugu? I second the notion to get the Samurai Warriors games, they are awesome and sre superior to the DW series in some ways and if you like Noh then IMO she's sooo much better in SW1 than in Sw2, she has a better voice and a much better persona. To improve Kanetsugu i'd definitely get him to tone down on all the honour crap, i really detest how he says it like a kazillion times each level, i detest that as much as Ma Chao's justice talks and Yue Ying's/Zhen Ji's/Noh's(SW2 persona) husband obsession. But other then tone down his honour obssession there isnt a lot to change IMO as he's a pretty much awesome character (would've been my favourite but you can guess why not) As Tesouken said they could change his musou in a way that makes it more easier to get enemies, maybe longer range or the inclusion of his sword. But his design is perfect in my mind and good luck playing SW if you decide to get it, you wont be dissapointed.
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M.O.G.	Oct 5 2007, 01:45 PM Post #12
Michael on my right, and Raziel on my left Posts: 4,900 Group: Moderators Member #7,647 Joined: May 30, 2007 Gender Male	The only way I could really improve him would be to change his element to ice because he's great with that and to give him some attack power on his weapon. And yes change his musou. If you freeze an enemy first and then do his level 3 musou attack they have virtually no chance of living even of hell difficulty.
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TheRyanHimself	Oct 5 2007, 01:45 PM Post #13
The children of Evil are truly insane. Posts: 1,517 Group: Members Member #8,963 Joined: August 4, 2007	I agree with the honor thing...it does kinda make him one dimensional. But at least they joke about it IN the game. That makes me feel like they are aware of it, and it's all in good fun. On a side not...I tend to familiarize his helmet with Boba Fett's ****, the Slave 1 from Star Wars. Hence why I use to call him "Slave 1 Head."



T.e.n	Oct 5 2007, 02:21 PM Post #14
Obsessive Yue Ying Fan OMG Posts: 1,696 Group: Members Member #9,822 Joined: September 20, 2007 Gender Male	Replace 'honor' with 'Tempura' - instant laughs! I have slain another for the taste of TEMPURA!
	From the moment of birth, every human being wants happiness and does not want suffering. - Tenzin Gyatso


MitsunariIshida	Oct 5 2007, 10:57 PM Post #15
Perfected Mastermind Of The Secret Sechemers Posts: 522 Group: Members Member #8,677 Joined: July 21, 2007	Well,you can use Tampura for friendly conversations.Like a example i made up... Keiji:Hey Kanetsugu,if you need honor,then you need food. Kanetsugu:I cant agree with you more.What are you eating. Keiji:Perhaps some dumplings.What are you going to eat? Kanetsugu:Tampura in the name of honor.It doenst hurts to do it once,
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Amakusa	Oct 9 2007, 07:49 AM Post #16
General Posts: 223 Group: Members Member #8,248 Joined: July 1, 2007	The thing that made Ma Chao tolerable and Kanetsugu not is for a simple reason: Kanetsugu's critique of Odawara Castle is just too ridiculous. There's practially nothing that Ma Chao says that comes anywhere near that.



Kratos Aurion	Oct 12 2007, 09:34 PM Post #17
MOAR Posts: 2,390 Group: Members Member #8,741 Joined: July 24, 2007 Gender Male	Kanetsugu and Ma Chao are my heroes personality wise, second only to Nagamasa. Honor, Love, and Justice! The three of them are my WO team for personality The ONLY problem with Kanetsugu: The Rather weak musou. I turn my character to aim ALL of the little beam things at the officer (In the opposite direction of the way he normally goes, so it slows down the radius of where the beams fire, so theyre limited to right in front of me, pummeling whatever was unlucky enough to be in such a position) but even when they ALL hit, its usually better to just do his C2 during his Musou. Don't know why, but it needs to be less garbage and more WIN. And what does he say at Odawara? I cannot remember to save my life what he said and my TV is occupied. Damn this is gonna bother me. Kanetsugu=Win. Only change his musou.
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san-shin warrior	Oct 16 2007, 06:41 AM Post #18
General Posts: 213 Group: Members Member #8,309 Joined: July 4, 2007	He is also one of my favouruite character... His moveset is ok, same goes to musou, though a bit similar with Zuo Ci, but still, he's cool!!! Of course speaking 'bout honour, I think he was a bit carried away with that, But not as serious as Nagamasa... :lol:



PostalOrder	Oct 16 2007, 06:24 PM Post #19
Tiger General Posts: 553 Group: Members Member #5,956 Joined: March 8, 2007	I personally can't stand any of these stupid "FOR JUSTICE!!!!111ONEONEELEVENTYONEMILLION!" characters. Ma Chao, Nagamasa, Kanetsugu... Liu Bei started to get to me in DW5 and I used to love him Besides that... Kanetsugu is so ridiculous. He has some cool weapons, and a good moveset but he's soooooooo weak and his musou is sooooooooooooo weak and he is soooooooo annoying XD His commentary on everything just... kills me a little inside every time I hear it. Ugh ugh ugh. You get the story before the chapter starts, you don't need his stupid Kenshin-fanboying during the battle too! And I don't like his happy face - it grosses me out. I wouldn't despise him so much if he just SHUT UP once in a while. And for the record : Thank heavens someone else said something about Yue Ying's husband chasing in DW5. She was badass in 4... now she's a moron.



GoW	Oct 16 2007, 07:39 PM Post #20
KOEI Warriors Unifier Posts: 1,757 Group: Members Member #7,496 Joined: May 22, 2007	ALOT of the personas in WO got toned down. And Kanetsugu was one of them. He has a much deeper and more serious voice over. But he's also not used as much in the storyline after Kyushu in the SW story. So, like the majority of the roster, you dont get to hear his usual self.



PostalOrder	Oct 16 2007, 07:43 PM Post #21
Tiger General Posts: 553 Group: Members Member #5,956 Joined: March 8, 2007	Yeah but we're talking SW, not WO. Everyone gets watered down in WO.



King Of Wei	Oct 16 2007, 08:17 PM Post #22
Why do they even bother!!!! Posts: 2,390 Group: Members Member #9,380 Joined: August 25, 2007	kanetsugu is the best well one of the best he is okay but sometimes he does get annoying when he talks about justice and all that. but i think overall he is a good character to play with. he doesn't look very hedious like dong zhou in dw6 and he doesn't have a lame move set so i think he will go somewhere in the middle, my favourite charcter has to be musashi. kanetsugu can go somewhere in the middle where he isn't my fav character or my worst character.
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Tekshou	Oct 16 2007, 09:33 PM Post #23
Dreaming 6 Posts: 596 Group: Members Member #10,343 Joined: October 14, 2007	Kanetsugu is definately not the most hated. He has a decent moveset and set of costumes but his 'honor-obsessed' additude ticks me a little.. But no, not nearly as hated as say, Yoshimoto..



MitsunariIshida	Oct 16 2007, 10:28 PM Post #24
Perfected Mastermind Of The Secret Sechemers Posts: 522 Group: Members Member #8,677 Joined: July 21, 2007	Well,too bad becasue Yoshimoto wont be hated in SW2:Xl due to his musou being revamped to be like Gan Nings.Ehhh. Anyway,Kanetsugu is fine with me.Hes in my top 10 i believe,didnt die in the choas mode at least for the entire storyline.The one i mosly use is his S string.His moveset is kind of average.
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Mei Ling	Oct 17 2007, 01:01 AM Post #25
The One, The Only Voice Actress! Posts: 1,316 Group: Members Member #7,856 Joined: June 10, 2007 Gender Female	Lord_Nagamasa Oct 12 2007, 08:34 PM And what does he say at Odawara? I cannot remember to save my life what he said and my TV is occupied. Damn this is gonna bother me. He said something along the lines of..."Odawara Castle is truely formidable, but it has one weakness, it's lack of JUSTICE!" or something...
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