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Samurai Warriors 3 Ideas; Announced For The Wii
Topic Started: Oct 24 2007, 12:45 AM (4,254 Views)
Nakasone Spirit	Oct 24 2007, 12:45 AM Post #1
General Posts: 202 Group: Banned Member #10,197 Joined: October 7, 2007	Shouldn't Honganjii Kennyo and Ishikawa Goemon and Kunoichi be in that game?



Shu	Oct 24 2007, 12:48 AM Post #2
KW Comedian Posts: 1,168 Group: Members Member #8,721 Joined: July 23, 2007	Nakasone Spirit Oct 23 2007, 11:45 PM Shouldn't Honganjii Kennyo and Ishikawa Goemon and Kunoichi be in that game? Dunno about kunoichi....but they do need another one of the sanada 10 braves. As for the other 2, yeah.
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VulpineNinja	Oct 24 2007, 06:35 AM Post #3
Elite Soldier Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #10,565 Joined: October 23, 2007	Kunoichi isn't exactly a legendary Japanese warrior, but just someone to represent a female ninja. Yeah, i go for Sanada Ten Braves as well. I'd like to see Sarutobi Sasuke ^^



Fayt	Oct 24 2007, 06:40 AM Post #4
Sakon, has left the topic. Posts: 3,638 Group: Members Member #9,265 Joined: August 19, 2007 Gender Male	Kunochi: No, same reasons as I don't want Fu Xi & Nu Wa in the games. Characters which were not part of the history shouldn't be in the game. SW2 & DW5 had that correct to an extent, I hope Koei build on that rather then making people up. There are too many characters which need addition to go pulling tricks like that. Goemon, I liked him in SW1, the ninja-bandit thing is really cool. I'd like to see that back. As for Honganjii Kennyo, I don't know alot about him but he wouldn't be a bad choice.
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BlackKite	Oct 24 2007, 06:48 AM Post #5
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object. Posts: 4,023 Group: Admins Member #38 Joined: August 26, 2005 Gender Male	Kunoichi doesn't belong in SW games. Goemon and Kennyo really needs to be back. Especially Kennyo; Capcom used Koei's forsakement of Kennyo as an advantage then featured him in SB2 and making him playable in SB2H.
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VulpineNinja	Oct 24 2007, 07:50 AM Post #6
Elite Soldier Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #10,565 Joined: October 23, 2007	I wonder if they dare adding Toyotomi's wives (nene is the second) and Oda's concubines; Kitsuno and Lady Saka? After all, they are the ones who bore his children, not Nohime. =P



Fayt	Oct 24 2007, 07:57 AM Post #7
Sakon, has left the topic. Posts: 3,638 Group: Members Member #9,265 Joined: August 19, 2007 Gender Male	VulpineNinja Oct 24 2007, 04:50 PM I wonder if they dare adding Toyotomi's wives (nene is the second) and Oda's concubines; Kitsuno and Lady Saka? After all, they are the ones who bore his children, not Nohime. =P Maybe...Nene didn't have Hideyoshi's children either. It would really change the relationship between the characters if it happened though. I really enjoyed the quirky relationship Nene & Hideyoshi had, adding Lady Chacha would dramatically change it. Although, if they want more females they are two reasonable options...
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VulpineNinja	Oct 24 2007, 08:43 AM Post #8
Elite Soldier Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #10,565 Joined: October 23, 2007	the problem is, nene is Hideyoshi's favourite wife. While Nohime doesn't really love Oda, who loves Kitsuno more. But these addition of women might confuse players and the relationship is not for lil children to know (IF they play)... well...concubines. Or we could add sisters. nobunaga has another sister but she wasn't that popular. EDIT: Why not add Masamune Date's wife, Megohime? :3



Lizaveta Vath	Oct 24 2007, 09:11 AM Post #9
The Ideal girl in London from France Posts: 2,714 Group: Members Member #226 Joined: December 29, 2005	Then Koei should add all concubines, as female officier >_> it was just ironic, because I really hope it won't happen!!!! but who knows Oichi got 2 lovers in the game Nagamasa and Katsuie. For Sanada 10 braves, I got a better idea why don't to add for Yukimura uniquer bodyguard that appears each time when he wants, just by touching the R1 in the control! And to my mind, Koei should add a real female ninja or a lady who truly fought like Chiyome or someone else!
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VulpineNinja	Oct 24 2007, 09:31 AM Post #10
Elite Soldier Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #10,565 Joined: October 23, 2007	I'm only kidding lol. But that would be interesting. Oichi had two lovers because they were officiall married. She marries Katsuie after Nagamasa's death. It's unfair if Yukimura is the only one with bodyguards though... Yeah, nene is not a real female ninja. But too bad that names of female ninjas/kunoichis are not written in history.



Lizaveta Vath	Oct 24 2007, 09:40 AM Post #11
The Ideal girl in London from France Posts: 2,714 Group: Members Member #226 Joined: December 29, 2005	she was married before to katsuie, then divorce from him for nagamasa and then re married with katsuie after the death of nagamasa :wacko: yeah but other characters could have some other special help, oichi could ask for a katsuie bodyguard as he loves her... yes for the female ninja names but hey kunoichi more than ninja must hide themselves!!!
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Shogun	Oct 24 2007, 01:32 PM Post #12
Generic Title Posts: 2,348 Group: Moderators Member #5,876 Joined: March 2, 2007 Gender Male	Honganji Kennyo's removal was a big disappointed, he would make the Ikko-Ikki Rebels (who only appeared once in the game) more important, he is needed for battles like Osaka Bay, Ise, and all those other battles involving the Honganji in SW1. His connections with the western daimyo, he could appear in a lot of battles, supporting Nobunaga's enemies. Kunoichi wasn't supposed to be in SW in the first place, I don't really see a point in this character, adding characters individually is better than adding one character that represents a whole bunch. Ishikawa Goemon, of course he should be back!
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BuddHA0991	Oct 25 2007, 12:27 AM Post #13
Ace of Spades Posts: 1,297 Group: Members Member #6,580 Joined: April 6, 2007	Screw you all who say Kunoichi doesn't belong in this game.LOL jk, but for real, she is one of my favs. If anything she should return with a new name, Chiyome Mochizuki, a historical Kunoichi who served Shingen, but switched to serving Yukimura after Shingen died. She also might need a new moveset, but she HAS to keep that puffy hat.
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Fayt	Oct 25 2007, 12:45 AM Post #14
Sakon, has left the topic. Posts: 3,638 Group: Members Member #9,265 Joined: August 19, 2007 Gender Male	But Kunoichi is only historically correct on a very general level, that's why she is out of place. Maybe something like her for a Bodyguard would be ok, but she shouldn't have a role as a unique playable character when every other character is based off an actual person, not a group of people.
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BuddHA0991	Oct 25 2007, 12:50 AM Post #15
Ace of Spades Posts: 1,297 Group: Members Member #6,580 Joined: April 6, 2007	Thats why I think they should change her name to Chiyome Mochizuki. Also, she needs slight a personality change. In SW, she was doin that wierd giggle and not taking the situation seriously, even at the last level where yukimura was gonna rush Tokugawa. But in Ina's SW1XL ending, she is completly serious, saying she wish she could be as strong as Ina. Her personality in WO is the same as SW, minus the annoying giggle. If they mixed her WO and SW1XL personality, it would be for the better. Also Sakon, Magoichi is a person representing a group of people, as was kotaro Fuma. Both of those are titles of the leaders of the Saika Mercenaries and the Fuma Ninja.
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Fayt	Oct 25 2007, 02:03 AM Post #16
Sakon, has left the topic. Posts: 3,638 Group: Members Member #9,265 Joined: August 19, 2007 Gender Male	BuddHA0991 Oct 25 2007, 09:50 AM Also Sakon, Magoichi is a person representing a group of people, as was kotaro Fuma. Both of those are titles of the leaders of the Saika Mercenaries and the Fuma Ninja. Exactly, leader of an actual historically realted group = Individual. For that reason I find those far more acceptable then Kunoichi which merely represents a female ninja and nothing more. The Saika & Fuma Clan had actual roles in the period, Magoichi & Kotaro are representations of the leaders (aka individuals) of those actual groups. Clearly you're misreading the point of my post, or trying to make it sound like I don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Not to mention drawing a long bow to put these cases in the same boat...
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BuddHA0991	Oct 25 2007, 02:11 AM Post #17
Ace of Spades Posts: 1,297 Group: Members Member #6,580 Joined: April 6, 2007	Yea, but Magoichi isnt representing ONE leader of the Saika, he is representing MULTIPLE leaders of the Saika, but whatever, doesnt matter to me, as it is your opinion. Who am I to change it? Just like you can't change mine. Would it be more acceptable if they went and used my Idea and change her name. (This wasn't my idea realy, many people had it before me.)
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VulpineNinja	Oct 25 2007, 02:17 AM Post #18
Elite Soldier Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #10,565 Joined: October 23, 2007	There's not much known about Magoichi but he is indeed from Saika. But as for Kotaro Fuuma, he's not just representing his clan. Fuuma indeed serves for the Hojo clan and IS the head of the Fuuma. Plus, in legend, he defeated Hanzo. So there is a reason why he should be in SW2 compared to Kunoichi.



Fayt	Oct 25 2007, 02:17 AM Post #19
Sakon, has left the topic. Posts: 3,638 Group: Members Member #9,265 Joined: August 19, 2007 Gender Male	^ Yeah it would, if they adopted her into more of a role which relates to the Sengoku Era only I'd be more then happy with that. Tinker with her a bit, new name and I have no problems with her coming back at all. Just not as Kunoichi, and only Kunoichi. :lol:
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BuddHA0991	Oct 25 2007, 02:33 AM Post #20
Ace of Spades Posts: 1,297 Group: Members Member #6,580 Joined: April 6, 2007	True. Hanzo shouldnt be named Ninja. Ina isn't Archer. Yukimura isn't Samurai. and Nobunaga isnt Diyamo. LOL
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Fayt	Oct 25 2007, 02:37 AM Post #21
Sakon, has left the topic. Posts: 3,638 Group: Members Member #9,265 Joined: August 19, 2007 Gender Male	Haha, too right. I guess it's all about our personal acceptance level of how much can be fictional/historical. Of course in my opinion Magoichi & Kotaro are on the acceptable side, while Kunoichi is not. Anyway, debate aside we should get back to who should be in the next game. I'm not that sure to be honest, I'd love to see Goemon back but not really sure beyond that. I was crying out for Shibata & Toshiie before SW2XL, but I got my wish there. I'll take whoever they throw out from here on basically, providing they have some historical relation to Sengoku of course.
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M.O.G.	Oct 25 2007, 05:13 AM Post #22
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Shogun	Oct 25 2007, 09:28 AM Post #23
Generic Title Posts: 2,348 Group: Moderators Member #5,876 Joined: March 2, 2007 Gender Male	BuddHA0991 Oct 25 2007, 01:11 AM Yea, but Magoichi isnt representing ONE leader of the Saika, he is representing MULTIPLE leaders of the Saika, but whatever, doesnt matter to me, as it is your opinion. Who am I to change it? Just like you can't change mine. Would it be more acceptable if they went and used my Idea and change her name. (This wasn't my idea realy, many people had it before me.) Yes he did, he's supposed to be Suzuki Shigehide, he was given the name "Magoichi" when he became the leader. I honestly don't know much about Fuuma Kotaro.
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VulpineNinja	Oct 25 2007, 10:05 AM Post #24
Elite Soldier Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #10,565 Joined: October 23, 2007	BuddHA0991 Oct 25 2007, 01:33 AM True. Hanzo shouldnt be named Ninja. Ina isn't Archer. Yukimura isn't Samurai. and Nobunaga isnt Diyamo. LOL. correction: DAMIYO Actually, there are real warrior women from Japan but too bad that they didn't exist in the sengoku period.



GoW	Oct 25 2007, 02:27 PM Post #25
KOEI Warriors Unifier Posts: 1,757 Group: Members Member #7,496 Joined: May 22, 2007	Nakasone Spirit Oct 23 2007, 11:45 PM Shouldn't Honganjii Kennyo and Ishikawa Goemon and Kunoichi be in that game? The first 2 yes, Kunoichi as she is can stay out. I'm not too familiar with the actual Sanada 10 Braves but as an idea since she was supposed to represent them, have the leader of theme in the game as a main character. Then his MS can be Mormal and the higher is charges the more # of ninjas come out to participate in the attack. Thats a bit ambitious though...



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