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Compare SW characters to the DW characters; Liu Bei is the...
Topic Started: May 27 2006, 08:36 PM (3,225 Views)
Kensai Mamoru	May 27 2006, 08:36 PM Post #1
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	Me and Luxun1985 were talking about how many charactersitics were shared by characters of both and we came across very many. Here's some of what we got. Zhao Yun = Yukimura same weapon, same "hero" type role, Zhou yu = Mitsuhide similar weapons, both considered the pretty boy, same VA Zhou Tai = Hanzo both have a sort of "Shredder" costume, both say very little, both are considered as guardians of their allegiences Cao Cao = Nobunaga same VA, both very influencial leaders historically, both somewhat considered villainous, similar weapons Zhen Ji = Noh both very sexy, have the same facial features, both much more vicious than they appear Xu Huang = Kenshin both have an extremly high sense of nobility, both have a white turban, both have very large weapons Xiao Qiao = Oichi both are the youngest, extremely annoying voices Lu Xun = Masamune both are young warriors, both have dual-wielded a pair of swords, similar voices Well, these aren't all of them. I can't remember the rest of them right now, though. You guys see how many you can come up with.
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LoW	May 27 2006, 09:14 PM Post #2
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,437 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	Yukimura uses trident and Zhao Yun normal spear... that's not the same weapon :o. Kunoichi = Sun Shang Xiang Both are the most horrible characters ever made by Koei, they suck in everything. After you have played with them, it's hard to believe that great game company such as Koei manages to make such an horrible characters. Honda Tadakatsu = Lu Bu Both are really arrogant and only seem to care about their might. They both also wield huge polearms. Hideyoshi Toyotomi = Liu Bei Personalities and looks are different, but they had the same goal, to make a world better place to live. Shingen Takeda = Zhuge Liang Wise strategist, but eventually, their descendants weren't able to live up to them. Magoichi Saika = Ling Tong Guys, who know when to take easy and always seem to have fun.
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Kensai Mamoru	May 27 2006, 09:22 PM Post #3
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	Lord of Wei May 27 2006, 02:14 PM Yukimura uses trident and Zhao Yun normal spear... that's not the same weapon� :o. My friend, don't be so selective of my words. Yukimura uses a yari. Yari come in many different forms. One blade, two, and (like Yukimura's) three. But the only thing that really matters is that yari is the Japanese term for spear universally. Zhao Yun also has a spear. They both have spears, and therefore they both have the same weapon. Jiang Wei is the only Koei warrior that has a trident.
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Sixx	May 27 2006, 09:25 PM Post #4
genocide nightmare Posts: 881 Group: Members Member #1,859 Joined: May 8, 2006	Can't argue with those, but the arrogant part between Honda and Lu Bu, I just can't agree with that; unless I missed something I don't see any arrogance in Tadakatsu's character at all. Which is more than I can say for Lu Bu.
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Kensai Mamoru	May 27 2006, 09:32 PM Post #5
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	That's true. While both are very large, strong, and have HUGE pole arms, Honda isn't so vain. Especially when compared to Lu Bu.
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LoW	May 27 2006, 09:33 PM Post #6
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,437 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	Kensai Mamoru May 27 2006, 08:22 PM Lord of Wei May 27 2006, 02:14 PM Yukimura uses trident and Zhao Yun normal spear... that's not the same weapon� :o. My friend, don't be so selective of my words. Yukimura uses a yari. Yari come in many different forms. One blade, two, and (like Yukimura's) three. But the only thing that really matters is that yari is the Japanese term for spear universally. Zhao Yun also has a spear. They both have spears, and therefore they both have the same weapon. Jiang Wei is the only Koei warrior that has a trident. Fine, it's yari with three blades (yes, it has three blades like Jiang Wei's trident) and Zhao Yun only has one. So... I consider them as different weapons. The only same thing is, that they both are polearms ;). Quote: Can't argue with those, but the arrogant part between Honda and Lu Bu, I just can't agree with that; unless I missed something I don't see any arrogance in Tadakatsu's character at all. Which is more than I can say for Lu Bu. You could always play his Story mode in SWXL and see how he keeps talking about his True Might. He doesn't seem to care from anything else, expect for his loyalty towards his master. Edit: You know, I hate you Kensai, since you're correct... just checked it from Wikipedia. Here are the spear types what I found: Quote: Types of spears Spears which are not usually thrown Aunurgith Awl pike Barchi Boar spear Bohemian ear spoon Chimbane Contus Dung Falarica Hasta Jousting lance Kadji Lance Magari yari Mon-Gil Mon-Gil Ox tongue Pike Plan�on a picot Qiāng (槍) Rifle-and-bayonet Rummh Sangu Sarissa Spontoon Sudis Su yari Taru Tepoztopilli (Actually a slashing weapon) To-ono Yari Spears usually thrown Angon Assegai Ballam Bandang Bhala Bilari Budiak Cateia Chimbane Contus Do-War Egchos Enhero Fal-feg Falarica Framea Gravo Golo Granggang Hak Harpoon Hinyan Hoko Huata Irpull Ja-Mandehi Jaculum Jarid Javelin Jiboru Kasita Kamayari Kan-Shoka Kannai Kapun Kiero Kikuki Koveh Koy-yung Koyuan Kujolio Kuyan Laange Lance-Ague Lama-pe Leister Mandehi liguje Mahee Makrigga Makura Yari Mkukt Mongile Mongoli Mu-Rongal Nage-Yari Nandum Nerau Paralyser Patisthanaya Pelta Pill Pillara Pilum Plumbate Sang Sangkoh Sanokat Saunion Shail Shanen kopaton Siligis Short spear (or common spear) Simbilan Sinan Sligi Soliferrum Spiculum Su Yari Sudanese lance Tahr Ruan Tao Tawok Telempang Te yari Tirrer Tjunkuletti Tombak Tschehouta Tumpuling Wainian Wallunka Wi-Valli Zagaye
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Kensai Mamoru	May 27 2006, 09:51 PM Post #7
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	Lord of Wei May 27 2006, 02:33 PM Edit: You know, I hate you Kensai, since you're correct... just checked it from Wikipedia. Consider yourself the back of the line, buddy. You ain't the only one.
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LoW	May 27 2006, 09:57 PM Post #8
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,437 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	Well, you just had some luck. To be honest, I was just kidding and you fell for it :ph43r:.
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SlickSlicer	May 27 2006, 11:45 PM Post #9
Unregistered	I think a yari might be slightly different than a spear actually and some variations of it were so different than a spear that they can only be categorized as pole arms and not specifically as spears. There were for instance spears with side blades to dismount horses and then there were really hella long spears, such as the ones Nobunaga employed in his army (with a nearly 18 foot long shaft), that were basically like pikes.
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Kensai Mamoru	May 28 2006, 12:02 AM Post #10
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	Kuki May 27 2006, 04:45 PM I think a yari might be slightly different than a spear actually and some variations of it were so different than a spear that they can only be categorized as pole arms and not specifically as spears. There were for instance spears with side blades to dismount horses and then there were really hella long spears, such as the ones Nobunaga employed in his army (with a nearly 18 foot long shaft), that were basically like pikes. Look, I'm ending this argument. A yari is a type of spear. Now, similarities in the DW/SW characters.
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Masamune	May 28 2006, 02:14 AM Post #11
Sergeant Posts: 22 Group: Members Member #174 Joined: November 24, 2005	Yukimura and Ma Choa are more compatible...the voice, the standing out, the strong since of justice



Blue_Eyes_Oni	May 28 2006, 02:37 AM Post #12
Emperor's Retainer Posts: 2,083 Group: Moderators Member #200 Joined: December 8, 2005 Gender Male	Soki=Nagamasa Look at the blond hair. They also wear blue



lmay19	May 28 2006, 05:15 AM Post #13
;p Posts: 2,740 Group: Members Member #246 Joined: January 2, 2006	Jade_Moon_Dragon May 28 2006, 01:37 AM Soki=Nagamasa Look at the blond hair. They also wear blue Wait, are we comparing DW/SW characters with anyone, or only from the other Warriors series?



Kensai Mamoru	May 28 2006, 05:30 AM Post #14
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	Jin May 27 2006, 10:15 PM Wait, are we comparing DW/SW characters with anyone, or only from the other Warriors series? I intended it to be just DW to SW. That's why JMD's post seems cynical to me. <_<
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mayahabeerojo	May 28 2006, 01:43 PM Post #15
Unfortunately for you, I'm having a bad day.... Posts: 3,172 Group: Members Member #161 Joined: November 14, 2005 Gender Female	Jade_Moon_Dragon May 28 2006, 09:37 AM Soki=Nagamasa Look at the blond hair. They also wear blue We 're not talking about onimusha here. Only DW and SW. Quote: Yukimura and Ma Choa are more compatible...the voice, the standing out, the strong since of justice I agree with the above statement. They both have the same voice and it's very obvious.
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SlickSlicer	May 28 2006, 01:54 PM Post #16
Unregistered	Quote: Kunoichi = Sun Shang Xiang Both are the most horrible characters ever made by Koei, they suck in everything. After you have played with them, it's hard to believe that great game company such as Koei manages to make such an horrible characters. Yeah but they're both pretty hot. Also Kunoichi has an excellent musou attack, in fact her musou is probably the best in the game and certainly the best to get a high score on Samurai Warriors 1 Musou Challenge Mode. Also it's just your opinion that they are horrible. I for one don't mind their duelist movesets that much. In fact on the versus mode that was added to Samurai Warriors: XL I beat my friend, who was playing Hanzo, as Kunoichi, mainly because I happened to be ok playing as her.
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Rigochu	May 29 2006, 12:25 AM Post #17
First Lieutenant Posts: 115 Group: Members Member #2,046 Joined: May 24, 2006	sun not yet mentioned... based on looks alone: zhang he-sasaki kojiro shibata katsuie-huang gai keiji maeda-lu bu sakon shima-xihou dun ieaysu-xiahou yuan naoe kanetsugu- kindah reminds me of jiang wei for some reason... but thats just me
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laegolass	May 29 2006, 10:08 AM Post #18
Master of Darkness Posts: 106 Group: Members Member #918 Joined: March 5, 2006	Lord of Wei May 27 2006, 08:14 PM Kunoichi = Sun Shang Xiang Both are the most horrible characters ever made by Koei, they suck in everything. After you have played with them, it's hard to believe that great game company such as Koei manages to make such an horrible characters. hmm, i think Sun Shang Xiang is more like Nene rather than Kunoichi in terms of character design. But don't blame me if i'm wrong cos i haven't got the chance to play SW2. and Ina can be compared to Xing Kai. both are the daughter of the great warrior. but that's just my opinion, though.



SlickSlicer	May 29 2006, 01:04 PM Post #19
Unregistered	Especially since Honda Tadakatsu actually once got the nickname of "The Zhang Fei of the Sengoku-Jidai era." Well according to Alex anyways...
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BlackKite	May 29 2006, 02:23 PM Post #20
東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object. Posts: 4,023 Group: Admins Member #38 Joined: August 26, 2005 Gender Male	Kuki May 29 2006, 07:04 PM Especially since Honda Tadakatsu actually once got the nickname of "The Zhang Fei of the Sengoku-Jidai era." Well according to Alex anyways... Yes, he did. He got that title because during Kanegasaki, he repelled the Asakura army on a bridge. I heard that Nobunaga himself gave him that nickname. Similar to why Takenaka Hanbei was named Kongming of Sengoku; it is also said that Hideyoshi had to visit his home several times until Hideyoshi was able to meet him.
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necrosis	May 29 2006, 11:47 PM Post #21
Watching and waiting... Posts: 2,243 Group: Members Member #1,706 Joined: April 26, 2006	Apart from being visited a lot by Hideyoshi, Hanbei doesn't really deserve such a title, imo...
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LoW	Jun 4 2006, 06:56 PM Post #22
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,437 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	Insight II May 28 2006, 12:54 PM Quote: Kunoichi = Sun Shang Xiang Both are the most horrible characters ever made by Koei, they suck in everything. After you have played with them, it's hard to believe that great game company such as Koei manages to make such an horrible characters. Yeah but they're both pretty hot. Also Kunoichi has an excellent musou attack, in fact her musou is probably the best in the game and certainly the best to get a high score on Samurai Warriors 1 Musou Challenge Mode. Also it's just your opinion that they are horrible. I for one don't mind their duelist movesets that much. In fact on the versus mode that was added to Samurai Warriors: XL I beat my friend, who was playing Hanzo, as Kunoichi, mainly because I happened to be ok playing as her. They're everything else except hot :(. Sorry, but that's a fact. No, Kunoichi has worst Musou attack in SW. It certainly doesn't deal high damage, even if you have equipped good items and got all necessary skills with her, it's still quite horrible. Ok, it's good in Musou Challenge because enemies die in one hit, but I find Yoshimoto and Nobunaga better in it, they just have much faster Musou. I believe you just were quite fortunate in that duel and your friend was just inexperienced ;). If you faced an expert SW player as Kunoichi, well you would lose, no matter how good player you were. Kunoichi and Sun Shang Xiang are most horrible characters ever made by Koei. I can't do nothing about it, because it's a fact :(.
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Lizaveta Vath	Jun 4 2006, 07:09 PM Post #23
The Ideal girl in London from France Posts: 2,714 Group: Members Member #226 Joined: December 29, 2005	... And what do you think about Noh's weapons? is it similar than the zhang he's one or different?
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Kensai Mamoru	Jun 4 2006, 07:10 PM Post #24
The Breeze of Steel, Founder of the ACG Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #470 Joined: January 25, 2006	I'd consider Kotaro's more similar to Zhang He's.
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Lizaveta Vath	Jun 4 2006, 07:33 PM Post #25
The Ideal girl in London from France Posts: 2,714 Group: Members Member #226 Joined: December 29, 2005	Kotaro's weapons is glove with claws? sorry i don't have the SW2 games, I don't know a lots about the Kotaro weapons I just know that he could send his arm very far away :s
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