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| Nobunaga's Ambition: Rise to Power; Discuss it here | |
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| the glorious sun jian | Feb 13 2008, 06:10 PM Post #101 |
IT IS TIME TO CUT DONG ZHOU,S HEAD and DRINK IT,S BLOOD
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We must do something to change the score ... Onother fool gave Rork 11 7.0 :angry: I hate them when they let childes gave us the score . About the game ..it is better than what I have expected .I dont just feel like a general but also a designer and a builder ... I think it is better than Kakushin  Note :I think that the series has stopped at Kakushin because rather than releasing the 13th Nobunaga ,Koei released a Puk version this year ... |
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| LittleDragonZ | Feb 13 2008, 06:14 PM Post #102 |
Behold the spear of Baby Dragon!
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Quoted from Ken Matsumoto in a late interview defending the Dynasty Warriors series. So it looks like they are also aware, though I wouldn't of expected their awareness any other way. |
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| lmay19 | Feb 14 2008, 12:08 AM Post #103 |
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Well DW is different, in that you're pretty much gonna be doing the same thing over and over and even ONLY 20 minutes of play will pretty much sum up the rest of the game too. NA is different. |
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| the glorious sun jian | Feb 14 2008, 07:54 AM Post #104 |
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IT IS TIME TO CUT DONG ZHOU,S HEAD and DRINK IT,S BLOOD
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I was just about to write the same answer :lol: Yup , and Koei must really do something for the series otherwise it will be lost from them ..... I hate the satas that Koei gave to kenshin :wacko: it makes me doubt his abillities . 
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| SlickSlicer | Feb 14 2008, 09:53 AM Post #105 |
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He's kind of being a literalist though. When reviews say Dynasty Warriors hasn't changed with each reiteration, they don't literally mean that nothing's been altered. They merely are saying that the gameplay is largely the same and is still largely repetitive. Until Samurai Warriors 2, every character in Koei's warrior games had the same combo strings. Basically, a bunch of square attacks, triangle attacks and a musou. Samurai Warriors 2 added in different kinds of character combo strings (normal, charge and special), so that what Jin said for Dynasty Warriors couldn't really apply. You had to play at least 3 characters in order to get the gist of the game.  And even then, some characters had special moves that could modify the gameplay experience quite a bit.But yeah, NA gives you a bit more options to choose from as far as warlords, etc. go. However, being that it's RTS styled, I'm guessing it's still kind of repetitive. Playing different warlords may provide a different experience at first, but once you conquer about 7-10 territories, I'm guessing that your experience will be more or less the same for every warlord. By then you should have quite a few officers, and enough of everything to more or less steamroll every thing else. Still, NA is probably a lot less repetitive than Dynasty Warriors. |
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| the glorious sun jian | Feb 14 2008, 10:46 AM Post #106 |
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IT IS TIME TO CUT DONG ZHOU,S HEAD and DRINK IT,S BLOOD
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I enjoy playing NA and ROTK when I creat a story in myselfe .It is as if Koei brought you the actors and you use them to make a movie . DW is not just repetitive in the gameplay but also in stories of the charcters there are few charcters in DW with a speacial story .All the others are about loyality , strenght and ....etc . But in SW2 I feel that each charcter has its own story . In the end I would say that Koei without the history of both (Japan and China ) koei is nothing .If you look on its non history related game .You will see such stupid stories wriiten by kids ..Only WinBack 1 has a good story . |
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| Seraphil | Feb 20 2008, 11:56 AM Post #107 |
The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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Currently playing as Yoshimoto, decided to not march on the capital to avoid pokey death at Okehazama, and am now roasting the Oda with my Matsudaira slav- I mean, partners.
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| scholar | Feb 20 2008, 07:44 PM Post #108 |
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sounds fun. There is so manythings you can do with this game. |
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The Master Plan My Fan Music awards video! | |
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| Seraphil | Feb 24 2008, 10:14 PM Post #109 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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Eliminated clans of Oda, Nagano, Tsutsui, Saito and now the Miyoshi have been torn asunder by my prowess. Mouri took out Chosokabe and is now deadlocked between Otomo and Uragami, while my main ally Hojo is expanding big time in the north. Takeda's kinda stuck between us with a tiny Uesugi always thwarting his advances. Bore four maidens, three of which are now major officers, rescued Yoshiaki from the Miyoshi, achieved the level of Unifier and am also now Regent. I also have the capital in my grasp. The Imagawa are on the path to victory~ |
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| Foolish_Fool | Mar 1 2008, 06:43 AM Post #110 |
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So yeah, I finally got this game and I am having a blast with it! But a advice to new comers: Be quick! Expand and developt things as fast as you can and ALWAYS aim for a good strategical position on the map. Trust me, the game will be a lot easier if you can select who to conquer instead to just march around. Currently playing with the Oda but I am considering playing with the Tachibana. I wonder, maybe I can recreate Ginchyo? |
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Poem - "Engrish" English is not my first language But I use it anyway I know, foolish isn´t it? But it´s the only way, I can talk about my favorite subjects Shallow? Please don´t hate me! Becuase I am nothing but a fool | |
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| Seraphil | Mar 1 2008, 11:25 AM Post #111 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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Ginchiyo's in the game as a maiden, she gets married to Muneshige by the 1582 scenario I believe. Ginchiyo, (O)Ichi, Kicho(Nou), Tamako(Gracia), Chacha, Koshosho, Inu Oura, Tora(Tiger) Gamo are all maidens I've seen so far. Ichi, Kicho and Tamako all have unique portraits. Nene and Komatsu(Ina) are the ones I haven't seen yet, though I'm pretty sure Komatsu is not in, period. I think Okuni is one of the traveling actors that might show up at your castle on occasion, but this is just conjecture until I confirm it. --- Speaking of created officers, I've added in Mitsuyoshi Yagyu, Musashi, Kojiro, and three of the Sanada Ten(Sasuke, Saizo, and Kosuke.) I also added in Itsuki from SB for kicks. --- Beat the game as Imagawa, am now playing as Motochika Chosokabe(aka Japanese Lando Calrissian; he looks just like him!) and have nearly unified Shikoku with the assistance of the Honganji. Had a pretty rough time fighting the Miyoshi, who I've deemed one of the toughest clans to fight in this. They tend to have powerful castles armed with muskets that tar your army to shreds, and if you don't have a lot of officers with Calm or have cannons, you'll be hard-pressed to take those fiefs. Upon taking Shozui Castle, I captured Yoshitsugu Miyoshi, the daimyo, and naturally executed him. This made Shogan Miyoshi the daimyo, yet it seems the rest of the Miyoshi family hated him taking power, as their loyalty plummeted so far it was a simple task to send some envoys to have all four of them, including Nagayuki and Masayasu of the Miyoshi Three to agree to betray Shogan in an upcoming battle. I'm about to go to that battle too. 
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| SlickSlicer | Mar 1 2008, 02:02 PM Post #112 |
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He's black, has a cape and is a pimp? O_O |
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| the glorious sun jian | Mar 1 2008, 03:40 PM Post #113 |
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IT IS TIME TO CUT DONG ZHOU,S HEAD and DRINK IT,S BLOOD
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I was given the title unifier .... Hojo Ujiyasu really rocks in this game . |
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| Seraphil | Mar 1 2008, 04:43 PM Post #114 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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You nailed two out of three. B) |
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| GoW | Mar 3 2008, 03:00 PM Post #115 |
KOEI Warriors Unifier
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So this is like the ROTK series huh? Is there an official site up? |
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| Foolish_Fool | Mar 3 2008, 09:51 PM Post #116 |
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So yeah I had some trouble against the Takeda, but as soon as I got one of their fiefs they just fell apart. Good thing I had millions of muskets. Is Ranmaru playable in this game or he only shows up in cutscenes? |
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| Seraphil | Mar 4 2008, 08:04 AM Post #117 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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GOW: It's... similar to ROTK, yet not. You get a lot more options than in, say, ROTK 11, and involvement with other clans is more involved and really important. There's also more historical events and choices to make in them as well. No idea on an official site. --- Ranmaru isn't playable, but his father Yoshinari and brother Nagayoshi both are. Speaking of which, I've noticed the following officers are not in the game. Ranmaru Mori as we know is cutscene-only. Musashi Miyamoto, Kojiro Sasaki, Sasuke Sarutobi and the Sanada Ten are all missing(which honestly is strange in Musashi/Kojiro's case, since I don't see how Musashi/Kojiro is less important than the likes of Nobutsuna Kamiizumi, Muneyoshi Yagyu, or the various Osaka Castle defenders in the game.) Mitsuyoshi (Jubei) Yagyu Masatane Hara, one of the famous Takeda 24 Generals Moritomo Saegusa, another Takeda general Kagetaka Ohama, a pirate of Ise who worked for the Takeda like Yoshitaka Kuki worked for the Oda; was also one of the Takeda 24 Generals Hirohide Hirate, one of the Oda officers who reinforced the Tokugawa at Mikatagahara and the only Oda officer to die in that battle Yoshinobu Natsume, one of Ieyasu's senior retainers who often acted as his body double; was killed at Mikatagahara as he fooled the Takeda into thinking he was Ieyasu as Ieyasu escaped Naomori Ii, Naomasa Ii's grandfather and an Imagawa general Yoshinari Miura, an Imagawa general Munenobu Matsui, Imagawa general Naochika Ii, Naomasa's father and an Imagawa general Masateru Sanada, one of Masayuki Sanada's elder brothers who was killed at Nagashino(oddly, Nobutsuna Sanada, Masayuki's eldest brother and a Takeda 24, IS in this) Tadashige Mizuno, cousin of Ieyasu Tokugawa who served the Oda, Tokugawa and Toyotomi Nene, Hideyoshi's wife as we know her(likely would have been a maiden married to Hideyoshi, but I haven't seen her anywhere) Matsu Maeda(see: Nene) Komatsu (Inahime) Honda(see: Nene) Okuni(I actually think she's in as one of the traveling theatre performers, I just haven't run into her yet) Several other of the bodyguards in SW2 are not in this either, despite being mentioned in characters bios, like Yoshiaki Mogami's daughter Komahime and the famous ninjas Sandayu Momochi and Goemon Ishikawa. Also for reference, in this game Shigehide Suzuki is Magoichi Saika(Shigehide being his real name), Toshimasu Maeda is Keiji Maeda, Hanzo Hattori is Masanari Hattori, Sakon Shima is Kiyooki Shima, and Kanbei Kuroda is Yoshitaka Kuroda/Kodera. |
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| KOEI Warriors | Mar 4 2008, 12:13 PM Post #118 |
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Hmm, hope this helps! http://www.koei.com/risetopower |
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| Wenze | Mar 4 2008, 02:29 PM Post #119 |
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Yeah, Ranmaru is normally not in the game, but he does have his own portrait that's used in the events he's in, so you can make a Ranmaru in the Create an Officer mode. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I saw Hara Masatane in the game. He's wearing a white turban, ala Kenshin, and had a ridiculously high LDR stat. EDIT: Nevermind, it was Hara Toratane I was thinking of. Guess Masatane isn't in after all. |
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| Foolish_Fool | Mar 4 2008, 06:44 PM Post #120 |
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He is? Wow i´ve been using one of my favorite officers for the fullest and I didn´t even know about it! And I can create Ranmaru in "create a officer"? Sweet as soon I beat the game I will create him and all the missing ones, even if I have to use other portraits. |
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Poem - "Engrish" English is not my first language But I use it anyway I know, foolish isn´t it? But it´s the only way, I can talk about my favorite subjects Shallow? Please don´t hate me! Becuase I am nothing but a fool | |
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| Seraphil | Mar 5 2008, 08:02 AM Post #121 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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Currently playing as Takeda in 1560 Battle of Okehazama. My friend mentioned there's a cool set of events involving Yoshinobu Takeda and his revolt against his daddy Shingen, and he ends up joining the Imagawa along with a handful of Takeda officers who support him. O_O --- Currently created officers(nearly 50!) not including historical guys like Kojiro Sasaki, Komatsu Honda or Masatane Hara who I made and inserted into the game as well: Shokatsu Naito, son of Takaharu Naito and a leading strategist of Terumoto Mori Shogo Naito, son of Shokatsu, a powerful warrior Shofu Naito, daughter of Shokatsu, a scheming genius out for her own gain Michika Murakami, daughter of Takeyoshi Murakami; the samurai pirate girl Kaori Shimizu, daughter of Muneharu Shimizu and a strong warrior Yasumasa Kurushima, son of Michiyasu Kurushima, heir to the Kurushima-Murakami pirates Michinaga Kono, son of Michinobu Kono Nobuhisa Oda, favored cousin of Nobunaga, son of Nobumitsu Oda, strategist who later carves out his own little territory after Nobunaga is killed Chihaya Oda, Nobuhisa's sister, helps him in his endeavors Masaaki Sakakibara, Yasumasa Sakakibara's son Motoaki Torii, son of Mototada Torii Kagero Nagao, female cousin of Kagetora/Kenshin through Kagenobu Nagao Asahi Takeda, sister of Shingen who supported his son Yoshinobu Takeda Satsuki Kosaka, daughter of Masanobu Kosaka, close friend of Yoshinobu Haruka Amago, daughter of Haruhisa Amago Yukimi Yamanaka, daughter of Yukimori Shikanosuke Yamanaka Yoshimi Ashikaga, swordswoman daughter of Sword Shogun Yoshiteru, wishes to take revenge upon Hisahide Matsunaga for her father's murder Kazuya Mochizuki, Ikko-sect pirate who works for Kennyo Honganji; a master sniper Yasuo Asahina, eldest son of Yasutomo Asahina Kuniyoshi Asahina, son of Yasutomo Asahina Tomomi Asahina, Kuniyoshi and Yasuo's sister Munefumi Kuno, daughter of Muneyoshi Kuno Tosho Gan, Koga ninja leader under Yoshimoto Imagawa Ujimasu Sekiguchi, son of Ujihiro Sekiguchi and brother-in-law of Ieyasu Tokugawa Saigo Kashiwagi, minor lord of Mutsu Saya Kashiwagi, Saigo's daughter Tatsuyoshi Kasai, son of Chikanobu Kasai Motodaki Chosokabe, Motochika Chosokabe's daughter Toshimoto Saito, Toshimitsu Saito's son Tamaya Imagawa, eldest daughter of Yoshimoto Imagawa Kagiya Imagawa, daughter of Yoshimoto Imagawa Kazusa Takigawa, Kazumasu Takigawa's daughter Masayome Hirate, daughter of Masahide Hirate and a close friend of Nobunaga Nagitora Kanzuki, one of the greatest warriors of the Ouchi, but after Yoshitaka is overthrown by Harukata Sue he joins Motonari Mori Minagi Kanzuki, Nagitora's daughter and a warrior like him; also very beautiful Kotono Ashikaga, daughter of Haruuji Ashikaga who served Harutomo Yuki Kagemune Date, son of Tanemune Date and close confidante to his nephew Terumune Date Saori Hojo, daughter of Ujiyasu Hojo and confidante of her brother Ujimasa Hojo Kageharu Asakura, son of Soteki Asakura and wizened old warrior of the Asakura clan Yukari Tamura, a skilled arqubusier and friend of Yoshimi Ashikaga, and has made it her goal to slay Hisahide Matsunaga in revenge for her friend's father Yuka Asagi, a wandering geisha with a silver tongue out for her own goals Tomoko Kitabatake, daughter of Tomonori who betrayed to the Oda when they invaded Ise province. |
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| SlickSlicer | Mar 5 2008, 01:40 PM Post #122 |
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Some of the characters you mentioned as missing should have been in the game.  I think it was just kind of lazy on Koei's part to exclude them.
I don't disagree that they're pretty important, but unlike the Osaka defenders, it's not clear that Musashi or Kojiro ever served in any battles, I think? I think there's rumors about Musashi fighting at Sekigahara under Ukita Hideie's command, and possibly fighting at Osaka (rumors he fought on either side), but I'm not sure any of them are clear... They should have been ronin though in any case. It would have been a shame if they did not include Osaka dudes like the Onos, Mori Katsunaga and others, though. Good thing they're in. Too bad that Tenkasousei doesn't have Prelude to Sekigahara like Kakushin apparently does. 
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| the glorious sun jian | Mar 5 2008, 02:31 PM Post #123 |
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IT IS TIME TO CUT DONG ZHOU,S HEAD and DRINK IT,S BLOOD
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Kakushin had the 1600 year in the PK version not the normal one . I wonder if Koei will bring it to the stats . You may need to hear this but KOEI stopped Nobu Ambition and Kakushin was the last one . :angry: They did that to see how their ONLINE games do And to tell you their ONLINE games SU*KS |
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| Neo Juste Belmont | Mar 6 2008, 01:48 PM Post #124 |
Trinity of SRW Originals
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Hey, SRS. Were you by any chance putting a lot of fictional characters? I cannot believe that there is a historical person who shared the same name with a certain seiyuu...
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 Tokugawa Ieyasu would like to say: "Kidnap me NOW, would you? HA!" Sig by BlackKite. Arigato. And one more thing: Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Seraphil | Mar 6 2008, 08:24 PM Post #125 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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I'm honestly flabbergasted. When I mentioned the list to you I was expecting a "Haha, so you even added her into the game too? XD" sort of response. So much for that. *sigh* The references since it seems they actually need to be explained: Kaori Shimizu and Yukari Tamura: My two favorite female seiyuu Tatsuyoshi Kasai: A cool minor character from the Higurashi anime Tamaya and Kagiya: Fireworks companies in Japan; tradition to yell these names out during fireworks displays Asahi: My favorite brand of beer Anyway, I quit my Takeda game and am thinking of either doing a game as the Oda or Hojo. |
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