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| Favorite/Least units to command; Your best and worst | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 10 2007, 05:33 PM (2,363 Views) | |
| Nitestream | Nov 10 2007, 05:33 PM Post #1 |
Old man of the Mountain
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So far I'm not having much fun/luck with the Cavalry or Arrow units.
 Absouletly dominating with the Spears and Swords groups though. B) How about anybody else? Any tips on how I can enjoy the Cavalry and bow units more? |
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| PostalOrder | Nov 10 2007, 06:24 PM Post #2 |
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man, I HATE cavalry too >( I don't like any of their attacks and just being around them is irritating. I only use them as recruits in emergencies! I can't stand using them; the gauge takes too long to reload, they never seem to do any damage, they can never keep up with me... bleh. Bows... haha, I love longbows. If you have a unit and can see on your map that there's some cavalry coming your way, you can make a relatively quick and easy kill. It's particularly good when there's an officer commanding them, so you can get more points  The only annoying thing about bows, I find, is that allies can easily swoop in and pinch your kills  Having said that, if they do all the work, and you time "Pinpoint" well enough, you can easily pinch their's too
I think my favourites are heavy clubs and polearms. Big, swooshy wins XD I just hate cavalry so much and find that those two groups can seriously pwn those nasties. |
     
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| Nitestream | Nov 10 2007, 06:43 PM Post #3 |
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I'm getting better with the Bows but the Cavalry are only good for getting across the map in a hurry in my opinion. I personally like the Javelin heaving over the bows but that may be because I used to do the event in track. B) |
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| PostalOrder | Nov 10 2007, 06:54 PM Post #4 |
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Javelin can be more effective than bows, yeah, but it also depends what kind of troops you're fighting against. Sometimes it's better to keep your distance with bows, but other times you can use the javelin before really going in for the kill. I only find those kind of spears useful against weaker enemies and won't ever risk going against someone even slightly higher the way I will with clubs or polearms. Bows can send the enemy insane if you're at a good distance, which means you can keep them at bay while your really really really slow allies catch up >> |
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| Zangi | Nov 10 2007, 07:36 PM Post #5 |
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Spear Infantry's Javelin, I have found are quite effective against those you are red against. If you are in the right position, you can take down calvary with that also. Not enough calvary killers either way... I personally prefer Spear, Mace and Halberd. I generally use the 3 as my mercs. Every unit has their uses at certain times. I try to pick up some random group before resorting to my mercs... Who hasn't had some particular mishaps as calvary? Like the spear wall.... or archers... |
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| Nitestream | Nov 10 2007, 08:42 PM Post #6 |
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Exactly....I mean I'm on a horse with a Lance riding/charging into a group of foot soldiers and stop dead in my tracks  I do'nt know I personally think I should be able to go through them like a knife through butter but get stuck midway through...does'nt make sense to me myself but hey whatever...next game maybe they will fix it.
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| PostalOrder | Nov 10 2007, 09:26 PM Post #7 |
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No doubt javelin is effective against almost any enemy, however, those troops are pretty useless at close range against most foes. I usually only use spear troops' javelin first against equal or weaker enemies and then close in to take them out as long as there aren't more than 2 units nearby. Same with knives & axes throwing attacks. Cavalry gets stuck amongst foot soldiers with long weapons (polearms etc) because they're weak against them. It's very hard for horses to get through that kind of crap, so yeah you'll get wedged inside...which is why - I guess - they used those kind of weapons against cavalry attack You'll also get stuck if you charge right through certain 3+ units (3+ units of knives will probably be no problem because they're pretty weak!). Nothing particularly strange or unusual about that, I don't think. If they got wedged in the centre of one archer unit, that'd be odd... |
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| Hidden-Tactics | Nov 10 2007, 09:40 PM Post #8 |
In a battle, only the strong has the will to survive!
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Wait, are you guys talking about the Demo or....? |
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| Zangi | Nov 11 2007, 12:15 AM Post #9 |
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Full game, Hidden-Tactics. And Postal Order, maybe.... but, I have not gone past the 2nd fame tier yet... So you may know more. |
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| Nitestream | Nov 11 2007, 02:08 AM Post #10 |
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Just starting out on the second tier myself as well... |
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| Leady F ^^ | Nov 11 2007, 03:03 AM Post #11 |
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My fav squads by far is the Magician. They are so 1337 for taking down cavalry. I remember one mission when Joan and Giles were holed up in base and I spawned 3 Magician squads and pwned them...hahaha. I also luv the dual wielding sword and knife throwing ninjas. My worst squad is probably the long spear and horse bow since I never took time to level them. Actually I think the horse bow could be really powerful. |
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| PostalOrder | Nov 11 2007, 12:10 PM Post #12 |
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Oh Lord. Camels. I haven't been able to command any yet (still lacking quite a few books, actually >() but I haven't found a way to effectively slaughter those camel horrors
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| Nitestream | Nov 11 2007, 05:26 PM Post #13 |
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I have only run into them once with 3 other platoons of soldiers with me so did'nt really have much trouble with them.... but if your having trouble with them I'm sure I would as well if/when I run into them on my own... <_< |
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| PostalOrder | Nov 11 2007, 05:54 PM Post #14 |
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Yeah, I was with 3 other units of foot soldiers, so I wasn't on my own. Pikes, clubs and swords and me with my giant clubs... no luck. |
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| Nitestream | Nov 12 2007, 02:01 AM Post #15 |
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I was a knife brigade had a bow squad(not sure which one) cavalry and some foot soldiers. Just wiped knives at them till the cavalry chased them away. 
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| Aaron.K | Nov 12 2007, 04:41 AM Post #16 |
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I'm surprised at the ammount of people hating on cavalry. I have mine leveled up to 30, and I pretty much own everything with them. I have my Royal Lancers, and can charge straight into a spear wall and come out unharmed. The other unit I like is greatswords. Particularly the Landsknechts. The only other unit that I've used that hasn't gotten decimated would be heavy spearmen. But I don't like them because they're so slow. |
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| Leady F ^^ | Nov 12 2007, 09:58 AM Post #17 |
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Alot of people don't realise you have to HOLD down the the Charge button lol. |
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| Zangi | Nov 12 2007, 05:24 PM Post #18 |
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A lot of people accidently charge into long pikes... I should check if my tv has hdtv or not.... But yea, I've recently played calvary a bit more... and they have their uses. Lancer and Halberd types are the best of the 4. Elephants are quite dangerous. Never got into camels though. It seems tedius to finish things off with calvary. If they survive, I have the urge to just dismount and give em a good smacking. I am in essence an infantry commander... Then the calvary gets themselves killed or 'runs away'. |
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| rikuharada | Nov 13 2007, 06:27 AM Post #19 |
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My favorite unit is calvary lancer. It is the best unit in any situation, and has mobility as well. The only disadvantage is when you up against spear unit, however, if you are an expert commander, there is an easy way to over come this. The trick is don't charge right into it but go behind them, if you master this, then the calvary will be pretty good. I heard that the gun unit can own the calvary though, but since I'm playing on French side so I dont have to worry much about that particular unit. |
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| Leady F ^^ | Nov 13 2007, 01:46 PM Post #20 |
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Magician can tear cavalry to pieces. Too much fun!!! |
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| rikuharada | Nov 13 2007, 07:50 PM Post #21 |
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Yea that is true if their attack able to reach the calvary before the they charge in and wipe them out lol (at least in my case though, magician ai are kinda slow) |
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| Aaron.K | Nov 14 2007, 02:55 AM Post #22 |
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I purposely charge into long pikes, and come out unharmed. Though the only units I use for that are Royal Lancers and Armoured Knights. I wouldn't dare try it with sword horsemen or spear horsemen. Also how many of you have your troop skills mastered? I have all of the skills of the lancers and halberd horsemen mastered, as well as greatswords. Then I have the regular stats mastered for horses and swords. |
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| Zhau Ja | Nov 14 2007, 05:19 PM Post #23 |
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My best unit is the Royal Lancers which are at Lvl 40. My worst is pikes. To use calvary you have to use hit and run tactics. What I do is strike on the flanks of units such as pikes which are strong against calvary. That way they can't use their pikes at all! Also don't get bogged down in melee because that is the units weekness, use your secondary skill (accelerate or ride by slash) to get free. |
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| Nitestream | Nov 17 2007, 03:12 PM Post #24 |
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Keep the tips/strategies for the various troops coming...especially the cavalry
Still not "Feelin the love" for them. Feels like I mostly ride around in circles with them with an occasional charge now and then. Oh well with time they may grow on me....hopefuly along with the bows only ones I do good with are the crossbows <_< |
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| PostalOrder | Nov 17 2007, 08:22 PM Post #25 |
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New love for horsebows! Wowwwwwwwww max that out and it's fantastic, I love it so much
 Killed Edward and Chandos off with those alone!Don't mind using the stronger cavalry units (knights etc) but I can never finish off units with them. I manage to take off chunks of an officer's life or a load of soldiers but never can actually finish them. I can't use pikes at all ... for anything. I can't time the thrusts well enough. |
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