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| Favorite/Least units to command; Your best and worst | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 10 2007, 05:33 PM (2,347 Views) | |
| Macv12 | Jan 8 2008, 05:56 PM Post #51 |
Magnificent Artist Commander
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Controlled by a player, probably. I haven't come across any magicians yet, but if they're like the rest of the game's AI, they aren't likely to actually notice me in time to attack. It seems enemies don't differentiate between melee and cavalry in terms of sight distance, or just not enough, which is something they should probably fix in a potential future Bladestorm, as most are perfectly content to wait until you're mere meters away before turning to look at the hooves in their faces. As far as leveling... I'm only at 70-whatever because I want to max out my 3-star fame before proceeding in the story (I preemptively maxed 1- and 2-star fame the same way). I haven't always been at such a high level, but Lancers in particular have always been awesomely effective after a little leveling. However, having tried and given up training Camels, I understand that those initial levels are a real pain, especially if you're maxing Research first. |
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| Picc | Jan 10 2008, 03:51 AM Post #52 |
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Favorite unit/s to command? For me, it's Cavalry, hands down. I think Macv12 has explained the reason for this. Although if you don't watch those long spears or pikes whenever you are on a Charging spree, and if they are the same level or slightly higher level than your cavalry, well... let's just say the results aren't pretty. Bows are also one of my favorites to use, although not as frequent as Cavalry. For some reason, I just like to snipe any unit from far away, and then use Attack-Up pennons (Anger, Rage, Relentless Fury, Shiva's Wrath), then fire away! It's just a little bit frustrating if the targets/troops that you stumble upon are Knives and Rapier Squads. <_< There isn't a particular unit that I dislike - maybe it's because I haven't fully, shall we say, gotten the feel of them in the battlefield. |
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| Ma Cheng | Jan 17 2008, 12:35 AM Post #53 |
Strata on KWC.....
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Polesword's are the best for me,not fave they just seem to kick a whole lot o ass with mighty arm and scythe! Pikes are cool but so annoying to use... <_< |
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| PostalOrder | Jan 17 2008, 04:43 PM Post #54 |
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No.... I just got completely pwned by magicians using level 80-something spears :| |
     
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| Macv12 | Jan 18 2008, 02:35 AM Post #55 |
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 Oh no! Horses, halberds and spears are all I'm good with! What do I do now? Also, I recently (i.e. I haven't played this in a couple weeks) encountered Chariot enemies...I hate them. There is no unit I like killing them with. Not that I can't kill them, but I do dislike them. |
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| Picc | Jan 18 2008, 08:12 AM Post #56 |
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I've changed my mind about what units I like to command. It's now the Riflemen (Explosives Book).
 ... not the Hand Cannoneers or the Firespear Units. <_< |
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| Wei General Xu Huang | Jan 18 2008, 10:51 AM Post #57 |
Jeremy Clarkson watches you while you are alone.
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Lancers. Just so cheap. Aside from that, Halberds are awesome, and Swords I level so I can kill units solo. |
 Akechi Mitsuhide(WGXH) *Ruler* Perks: Arms Expert (Mitsuhide's soldiers take less damage from muskets) Tennozan Charge: Mitsuhide may use this skill to have any Akechi unit quickly gain speed and get to high ground or any advantegeous spot of Mitsuhide's choosing. Musket Blitz: If Mitsuhide has ashigaru teppou or samurai gunmen and some melee troops, he can use this skill to have his gunmen fire into an enemy unit's van while his melee soldiers attack an enemy's flank, thus causing good damage and confusion of the enemy ranks. Vengeful Onslaught: When on the battlefield with Oda, Tokugawa, or Toyotomi forces, Mitsuhide's soldiers can do more damage if this ability is used. Family Allies: When on the feild with Akechi Hidemitsu, Mitsuhide may use this skill to have his entire unit gain a morale boost. Musket Master: Mitsuhide and his men all fire in one synchronized volley. Mitsuhide may injure the enemy commander, and the enemy suffer heavy damage. War: 84 Akechi Mitsuhide= 10,300 ashigaru, 8,700 teppou ashigaru, 200 yakuza, 700 shinobi, 130 reapers, 2,000 sohei, 3,440 samurai | |
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| LittleDragonZ | Feb 3 2008, 09:45 PM Post #58 |
Behold the spear of Baby Dragon!
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Royal Lancer's are just easily the most effective units in the game. I remember when I first saw them with Edward and was witnessing how slow they were moving, and actually expected that it was the maximum speed for them lol. But seriously, horses dominate the game due to the maps being so big and you wanting to complete the missions within the period of time. Mine are just now level 83, I think. Anyone like the shortbows? I don't, I feel that the range is so inferior to the longbows and the elite bowman. Long shot is just too awesome at taking out units with an unfair advantage, and causes panic within the enemy lines, making them run riot not knowing where to go or what they are doing. All you have to do is just aim for the squad leader as well. |
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| ZhuRongPWNS | Feb 16 2008, 10:38 PM Post #59 |
Needs more Zhu Rong >:C
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Royal Lancers = badass. :mellow: When I saw Ed using them I was just like "WANT." And so every time I see them availiable in Recruits I always go buy them. Cavalry types are easily my favourite; nothing quite as exhilarating as mowing pikemen from the side >8D I can't wait til I'm a high enough level to mow actual officers down 8D In terms of crap, I have to say I'm useless at bows and therefore they're my worst unit. =/ |
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| God-Like Phoenix | Feb 17 2008, 10:21 AM Post #60 |
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yes, royal lancers are awsome, but not as good as the rifles, the kick so much ass, its...actually quite funny....especially when at a high level, mine are at level 50-60 something, but i cant find the last page of the book, so i cant get the book at 100% growth <_< |
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| LittleDragonZ | Feb 17 2008, 10:49 AM Post #61 |
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Yes, but you must note that you only get that unit at the latest stage of the game. Whereas Horses are there from the start and will be so much more trained and useful in controlling the battles due to their speed. And yes, people are saying how good the Camels are, but once again, you get those quite a while after. Thus they will be of little relevance to you compared to the Horses unit. Horses dominate the game because they are open to you from the beginning. Otherwise, if you were to get them later or in the middle area of the game they will be not as good or praised as often. |
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| PostalOrder | Feb 17 2008, 12:06 PM Post #62 |
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take level 80 cavalry into a 4 red-star fame battle, fight long spears and prepare for death in big bold red numbers :lol: And levelled magicians will take you out before you can even say "OMG NOOOOOOOOOO" when you see them dawdling after you. I still say, after starting to play the game again... ROMAN SPEARS are the best  Well, any race of spear-wielders, as long as they are of the triple thrust/mighty arm/javelin variety. Takes out cavalry, bowmen, halberds, camels, magicians, rapiers... a good levelled spear unit will pwn everything.
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| Macv12 | Feb 19 2008, 05:07 AM Post #63 |
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I have to agree with the pwntage of spears. I started using them from the beginning, and they have got to be my second-favorite unit, easily and by far my favorite melee-type. Swords are good, too, because they will let you beat very easy stages without troops and use some really cool troop types (Samurai, Ninja, sickle-sword guys). However, I've recently decided that Magicians are not very impressive. 99% of the times I've come across them on horseback, they use Lightning right in front of me (but not actually on me), then stand there as I mow them down. They did manage to catch me once, then pretty much rape me, but I escaped and exacted holy vengeance on them. I still laugh when I come across Long Spears on the battle field. Even against horses, if you just go around their points, you can blow them over, and then they no longer have any kind of formation, so you can run by as many times as necessary to take them down, or just dismount and personally murder the leader. Everyone else mauls them, of course. The most pitiful thing I've seen in this game is an officer using Long Spears. |
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| PostalOrder | Feb 19 2008, 09:42 PM Post #64 |
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That's the thing with magicians - their defense is useless, so once you get them... they're over. However... their magic is extremely powerful so once THEY get YOU... you're done XD |
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| God-Like Phoenix | Feb 19 2008, 10:27 PM Post #65 |
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ha, thats the only thing i dont like about the magicians, the total overbalance of power, where theyre defences are all but non-existant, and there offence is all but off the chart :wacko: |
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| Pingpat | Feb 20 2008, 01:13 AM Post #66 |
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I like magic and sword users. My favourite unit is the Samurai. They last for a long time. I hate Horsebows. I dislike Archers but they are worse on a horse. For me, a Horse unit with charge is useless. I also dislike Chariots, they move strangely... |
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| LittleDragonZ | Feb 23 2008, 06:22 PM Post #67 |
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The ninja's with the knives are just incredible when levelled up. They are fast moving and barely have to stop at all since the daggers do all the work whilst constantly moving. You basically just run throughout the stage and at fast speed as well. |
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| God-Like Phoenix | Feb 23 2008, 09:30 PM Post #68 |
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Man, those samurai's can just rip through anything, especially when levelled up and using sword wave. I agree with the horsebows, but im starting to like the lowbowmen, but i still say that rifles are the ultimate long range unit, cause i was doing that request with Diane where you had to defeat those "two" units, which end up being four, and all i needed was my rifles, only lv 65, and take down 4 royal lancers, at 14 stars  but chariots can be really fun, they can just mow down all unit at the right level
LDZ: hmm...that might have been my problem while using nijas, i stoped to fight  guess i shouldve done running attacks and retreating?
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| LittleDragonZ | Feb 23 2008, 10:05 PM Post #69 |
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They are best used with the hit and run tactic. Once you get them to around level 30 their speed will be amazing, especially in the Zeal state. This is why if you've noticed how quickly that the dagger skill charges back up. Seriously, just keeping throwing those daggers as much as you can, and fleeing with their circle skill when needed or getting across the map. The triangle attack is best used when fleeing at a disadvantage as well, since it trips the enemies up. Or you can just use it when closing in on them after using the daggers, etc. |
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| Hojo Ujitaka | May 12 2008, 03:30 AM Post #70 |
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i hate chariots because they make the game freeze. i love camels and horses. they are the best and powerfullest in my opinion. i alos think that rifle units are great once they are leveled up. |
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| Qing Long | Jul 16 2008, 12:35 AM Post #71 |
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Well, for the moment, I haven't played/found all the units, but for those I've already played (Basic units in fact XD), my favorites are : - Sledgehammer/Heavy Armour Masses ? (I don't know the name in English, - Epeist Infantery (Sword with Tsunami Power ^^) - Knight Cavalry (They've long spears like Azai Nagamasa weapon & get a Protection Aura very usefull for Cavalry) - Sword & Shield Infantery (Shield is a good adds to stun enemies) - Also Spears or Halberd units are good to use Least units to commands, don't know yet ^^'''' |
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| Tesouken | Jul 16 2008, 09:24 AM Post #72 |
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love: Lancers (knights/royal knights/lady lancers) like: Rogue ninjas, Samurai, Greatsword. Dislike (playing as) : Bowhorsemen, chariots, elephants. Hate (playing against) : Magicians. |
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| God-Like Phoenix | Jul 17 2008, 09:57 AM Post #73 |
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aww, whats so bad about the magicians? :rolleyes: i love using: rifles (fusileers - Yuniceri) any swords :lol: uhh...not too much else i would say i love using :lol: but i ccan say that i hate using horsebows, knives, and also perhaps the elephants, they just become a pain to use <_< |
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| Oblivion | Aug 5 2008, 07:59 AM Post #74 |
Through Light, Through Darkness
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Love using: Spears (My best, preferably the normal spear type
), Cavalry (Mostly Lancers), Halberds (Powerful) Like: Swords (Only a few, like Greatsword, Samurai and I think Twin Swords), Knife (Mainly ones like Assasin and Ninja) Hate Using: Long Spears (What a joke...), Archers, Chariots. Yeah, spears are my main unit, don't really use range units that much. 
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