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| Shin Sangokumusou 5 Review; Score: 5.5/10 | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 26 2007, 09:18 AM (1,238 Views) | |
| hellisky | Nov 26 2007, 09:18 AM Post #1 |
墮落、破壞、創造、再生。
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*There are a lot of nouns that I cannot translate, so I'll type this in Chinese, if there's anyone who is good at it, you can help me, thanks!* 真．三國無双在4代於2年前發售後便毫無消息，因此當官網在7月17日突然公佈「真．三國無双5」——koei的次世代新作將於今秋發售（最後確定於11月11日）後，於各大討論區起了一陣轟動。 由公佈消息到發售日，koei的保密功夫也做得很好，大家一直等待官網公佈全部人物（畢竟慣例如此），最後也只公佈了9名初始武將，令人難以忍耐，同時也讓人覺得koei的舉動有點奇怪… 慢慢公佈的連舞系統還有服裝設計、武器改變等等讓人感到十分感興趣。 最後在有人接收到treasure box後，公佈畫冊內的人物才讓大家暫時止了渴。 之前producer說出「這是一個新開始」，已讓人有心理準備，知道有人被刪，可是，當大家發現武將7人（姜維、星彩、大喬、龐德、孟獲、祝融、左慈）被刪超乎想像後，不禁讓人覺得是個騙局… 而且有玩家指出，雖然武器改變但有不少招式相同時，討論區一時起了謾罵之聲，不少人認為koei是亂來。甚至有人認為koei不想在發售前公佈太多的原因在此。 這…到底是怎麼回事呢？ 畫面 (Graphic)： 6.5/10 既然是次世代，最讓人看重的當然是畫面方面。 服裝設計讓人覺得夠新奇了，不過有些不太能讓人接受，如甄姬，沒有一點氣質，像大陸酒店小姐一樣，又或陸遜，不像前代的正太…當然最讓人驚訝的是劉備，居然變大眾臉了。 畫面比起PS2時代當然是有進步的，但我不可能用前代作比較，要比較當然是用次世代的。其實真三5在次世代遊戲中畫質很普通，視覺效果也不華麗（我個人認為比戰B2更不如），所以要扣分。 另外，有許多人批評地圖和人物名稱很小、夜晚很暗、人多依舊有lag現象、景物突然出現，証明koei依舊沒有花心思改進這些問題。 聲效 (Audio)： 7/10 我認為這款遊戲內最值得稱讚的只有音樂，繼續由MASA擔任作曲，繼承了無雙前代的風格，這代也有小池まさと（Masato Koike，戦国無双、真．三國無双4、無双OROCHI、戦国無双2猛将伝）和稲毛けんすけ（Kensuke Inage，無双OROCHI、戦国無双2猛将伝）參與，所以多了一點techno風格。 本來可以給8分，不過打人的聲音太弱幾乎聽不見，只能用減低BGM音量來彌補，扣分。 Gameplay： 5.5/10 因為C技取消，用連舞系統取代，所以大部分時間只能按□□□，偶爾才能按△△△（長按/短按）或殺陣（R1+△或□）。開始還感到很新奇，但發現慢慢玩下去很無力，這樣不斷按真的很悶，變化也不多，變成無腦亂按就能玩的遊戲。 爬梯和游泳實際上也沒什麼大不了，反而招式重覆才是這遊戲的致命點… 耐玩度 (Longevity)： 5/10 武器沒有專屬的，罕有軍馬（3種：的盧、赤兔、絕影）也只能靠運氣洗出來，關卡只有19，只有17人有列傳和招式重覆問題不再累贅，種種讓這遊戲的耐玩度比起前代更不如，像我本人玩了一星期就覺得很累。 分數 (非平均, not average)： 5.5/10 感想： 我不會因為我是無雙迷而給面子，既然這是敷衍過去，不給面子玩家，我也不必給koei面子。 其實有特色的武器好好的，怎麼突然改呢？ 改了不改好一點，free mode only character居然是只有一種武器外型…！ 另外…最讓人失敗怎麼不少人物招式是重覆的…還有種種，像是只有17人有列傳…這根本是退步和敷衍… 誰對我來說也很重要，特別是姜維，由現在的跡象可以看出他在猛將傳會回歸，但無論怎麼說我也越來越鄙視koei這種賺錢方法。 我比較擔心猛将伝的內容比本傳還多… 真希望koei不要再亂來了，最後我想稱讚koei敢出這款遊戲的勇氣（這真的是次世代嗎）。 |
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| StrikeForce9 | Nov 26 2007, 09:32 AM Post #2 |
Is That All You Got?
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Need some translators here! But the scores seem so harsh! Like 6.5/10 for graphic, it looks good imo (with I've seen so far)! For longevity, I understand why since there are few stages and not all characters have their own musou! Can't wait to see the translated version! |
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| God-Like Phoenix | Nov 26 2007, 09:32 AM Post #3 |
Mercenary General
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well, i cant understand quite a lot of that, but i do understand the rating it was given, and i must say im not that surprised with it, knowing how drastic the changes were, and the type of changes that were done |
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| Will | Nov 26 2007, 02:48 PM Post #4 |
God of Death in Gundam Wing
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I thought you were suppose to give ti a 6/10. Prepare to be flamed at. |
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| Hondam | Nov 27 2007, 09:50 AM Post #5 |
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6.5 for Graphics...? I can't read the chinese, but could you give an explanation in english? It can be as simple as you'd like. |
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| hellisky | Nov 27 2007, 10:03 AM Post #6 |
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墮落、破壞、創造、再生。
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I compare it with other next-era games, I'm not too stupid to compare it with the previous versions (PS2). Wanna give it 7.5 at first because it's not satisfactory. (only acceptable, many games have better graphic, and why it's only 720p?) Objects will disappear and appear suddenly, maps and names are tooooo small, and at night it will be too dark to see you way, it's really annoying when you dunno where you're going to. So I give it 6.5 . And it's not only me who are complaining. |
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| quocthai | Nov 27 2007, 10:12 AM Post #7 |
Prince of Jiang Dong.
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where is the review come from. |
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| necrosis | Nov 27 2007, 10:26 AM Post #8 |
Watching and waiting...
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Why should we care about this review, any more than we should care about an IGN review? .... ?_? |
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| Justin | Nov 28 2007, 12:49 AM Post #9 |
Tekishou, uchitottari!
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Because this one was done by Hell G. |
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| BuddHA0991 | Nov 28 2007, 01:05 AM Post #10 |
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Why does that matter? |
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| Fayt | Nov 28 2007, 01:10 AM Post #11 |
Sakon, has left the topic.
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Because it's a DW fans point of view who writes the review optionally, rather then that of someone which gets paid thousands and must write a review on it, quite a difference in my opinion.  For arguments sake, if you were to rate things such as graphics compared to prior versions of DW, would you rate them much higher lugia? |
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| hellisky | Nov 28 2007, 12:50 PM Post #12 |
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墮落、破壞、創造、再生。
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PS2 VS PS3/Xbox360, that's definitely better of course, but this will be unfair to the previous installments. (I will give it 8 maybe) |
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| LittleDragonZ | Nov 28 2007, 01:22 PM Post #13 |
Behold the spear of Baby Dragon!
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I'm more fond of negative reviews because they can give me a clearer picture on what to buy and what not to buy, etc. I hate to see 10/10 scores! And as well they tend to be more clear in depth also, even when the bad parts are brought up by fans and not company/site reviewers. |
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| Qing Long | Nov 28 2007, 11:29 PM Post #14 |
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What ? Some games get 10/10 ? O.o It depend of taste, games can't be perfect for everyone... Wooow thank you for this first SSM5 review, lugia ^^ Your score and your impressions can give us an idea about the game is. 
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| Will | Nov 30 2007, 10:30 PM Post #15 |
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I think Chin took your review from the main site =0. |
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| Justin | Dec 1 2007, 01:37 AM Post #16 |
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Tekishou, uchitottari!
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That's exactly why. It's from her, an actual fan of the series. She's given a non-biased review. |
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| KOEI Warriors | Dec 1 2007, 01:43 AM Post #17 |
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Sorry no! I took it from myself and some private people  And of course I did refer lugia for a bit.Graphic is really not very nice if you compare it on next gen, compare it to Virtual Fighter 5, or Tekken 6, you'll know it's not perfect, but it's pretty enough (but not perfect) so it's 7/10 (but there's only 1 opening CG movie, so 6.5/10 is actually reasonable lol) |
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| wu_tiger | Jan 2 2008, 02:00 AM Post #18 |
Am I even human anymore?
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but u cant compete dynasty wariors to twkken 6 or virtua fighter 5 cos they are completely different games, see no1 who reads chinese can read this so i translkated it aswell as i could Really. Three Kingdoms unparalleled sells then not in the least the news in 4 generations after 2 years ago, therefore is an official the net to announce suddenly in July 17 ¡°really. Three Kingdoms unparalleled 5¡± - - the koei next generation recent work sells in this fall (finally determined after on November 11), got up a stir in each big discussion area. To sells Japan from the announcement news, the koei security time also does very much well, everybody always waited for the official net announces the complete character (after all convention so), finally also only announced 9 initial military commanders, makes one endure patiently with difficulty, simultaneously also lets the human think the koei action is a little strange¡ Announces slowly the company dances the system also to have the dress designing, the weapon change and so on lets the human feel is interested extremely. Finally receives treasure box after some people, in the announcement picture album character only then let everybody stop temporarily thirstily. Before producer says ¡°this is a new start¡±, has let the human have the preparation, knew some people are deleted, but, after everybody discovered the military commander 7 people (Jiang Wei, asterism, big Qiao, pound, Meng Huo, wish melt left, kind) are deleted the ultra imagination, is unable to restrain to let the human think is a fraud¡ Moreover has plays the family to point out, but although the weapon change has many styles same time, the discussion area got up for a while railed the sound, many people thought koei was acts unreasonably. Even some people thought koei does not want to announce too many reasons in front of selling in this. This¡How is a matter? Picture (Graphic): 6.5/10 since this time generation, most lets the human regard as important certainly is the picture aspect.The dress designing lets the human think ‰ò has been novel, but some not too can let the human accept, if the Zhen professional female entertainer, does not have the makings, looks like mainland hotel young lady to be same, also or the land abdicates front, does not look like the generation too¡Certainly most surprised is Liu Bei, changed the populace face unexpectedly. The picture compares the PS2 time certainly to have the progress, but I not impossible to make on behalf of the comparison with front, must quite natural be with the next generation.Actually three 5 the picture nature very is really ordinary in next generation game, the visual effect not magnificent (I thought ratio fights B2 to be inferior), therefore must deduct points. Moreover, some many people criticize the map and the character name are very small, the night are very dark, the human many have the lag phenomenon, the scenery as before appear suddenly, proved koei has not put the thoughts to improve these questions as before.Sound effect (Audio): 7/10 I thought in this section game most is worth commending only then music, continues by MASA assumption composing music, has inherited the unparalleled front generation of style, this generation also has the cuvette ¤Þ ¤µ ¤È (Masato Koike, ‘é country unparalleled, really. Three Kingdoms unparalleled 4, unparalleled OROCHI, ‘é country unparalleled 2 brave generals ») and ·R Mao ¤±¤ó ¤¹ ¤± (Kensuke Inage, unparalleled OROCHI, ‘é country unparalleled 2 brave generals ») participation, therefore a many techno style.May give originally for 8 minutes, but hits human's sound too to be weak cannot hear nearly, only can use to decrease the BGM volume to make up, point deduction. Gameplay: 5.5/10 because the C technique cancels, dances the system substitution with the company, therefore the majority of time only can according to ¡õ¡õ¡õ, occasionally be able to press ¡÷¡÷¡÷ (long according to/short according to) either kill (R1+¡÷ or ¡õ).Starts also to feel very novelly, but discovered plays slowly very incapably, presses like this unceasingly really very stuffily, the change are not many, turns without the brain randomly according to the game which can play. Crawls the ladder and the swimming in fact also does not have any at the worst, instead the style repetition is this game fatal spot¡ Bears playing (Longevity): 5/10 weapon not exclusive, rare army horse (3 kinds: Lu, the red hare, ½^ the shade) also only can depend on the luck to wash, checkpoint only then 19, only then 17 people have the biography and the style repetition question no longer burden front, all sorts let this game bear playing to compare the generation to be inferior, looked like me to play one week to think very tiredly. Score (non-average, not average): 5.5/10 feelings: I cannot because I am unparalleled confuse show due respect for the feelings, since this is perfunctory, does not play the family to the face, I also do not need to give the koei face.Actually has the characteristic weapon well, changes how suddenly? Changed has not improved, free mode only character was unexpectedly only then one kind of weapon outlook¡! Moreover¡How many character style most lets the human be defeated is redundant¡Also has all sorts, is likely only then 17 people has the biography¡This is radically regresses and is perfunctory¡ Who very is also important to me, specially ginger Uygur, may see him by the present sign to be able to return in the brave general biography, but regardless of how said I also more and more despise koei this kind to make money the method.I compare worried the brave general » content compared to this passes on much also¡ Really hoped koei did not must again act unreasonably, finally I want to commend koei dares this section game the courage (this really this time generation). here is it almost fully translated the translator couldnt translate most of the chinese words |
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