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| Topic Started: Jan 2 2008, 06:51 PM (1,095 Views) | |
| Xuan Zhongda | Nov 1 2009, 02:28 AM Post #51 |
You're just that bad.
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Well, Liu Bei wasn't overly strong, why did ya give him such a good WAR stat? |
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| KauSu | Nov 3 2009, 07:26 PM Post #52 |
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The reason that Liu Bei never had those stats is quite simple, he doesn't deserve them. Sorry but, having Liu Bei on par with people such as Wang Shuang's WAR, Deng Ai's LDR, Higher than Cao Cao's INT is just ridiculous. Here's my plan for Liu Bei: ---Edit1: Lowered WAR stat--- LDR: 82 WAR: 68 INT: 78 POL: 84 CHR: 100 APT: Spears: A Pikes: B Bows: S Cavalry: B Weapon: A Navy: C And the only notable victory he managed was Hanzhong, which was partly Fa Zheng's work, I believe. Edited by KauSu, Nov 5 2009, 11:03 AM.
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| Ike | Nov 14 2009, 03:18 AM Post #53 |
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I noticed most of my stats changes are on Wei... I'll do some Wu/Shu this time. *Has been bias teeth shine* Throwing off some I had in mind. Han Dang ROTKXI [Original stats] -LEAD 76 -WAR 85 -INT 56 -POL 51 -CHA 68 Minor changes. -LEAD 79 -WAR 90 -INT 61 -POL 45 -CHA 72 C'mon was an awesome general for Sun Jian. Had great status and overall participated in many battles. :) I think this would suit him much better. His original stats bother me... Slight buffer up on his part. Lu Dai ROTKXI [Original stats] -LEAD 82 -WAR 71 -INT 69 -POL 75 -CHA 63 Minor changes. -LEAD 88 -WAR 71 -INT 75 -POL 78 -CHA 80 I'm just having fun with this one. Lu Dai was too good. And I don't see anything wrong with balancing him out he-he. Jiang Wei ROTKXI [Original stats] -LEAD 90 -WAR 89 -INT 90 -POL 67 -CHA 80 ''Characters named Jiang Wei.'' Some characters needed one big buff edit. Some characters needed lots of small buffs. One character needed an all-you-can-eat buffet. ...get it? ...buff...et? Eh. Sorry. Highly noticeable change. -LEAD 45 -WAR 69 -INT 51 -POL 34 -CHA 28 No way is Jiang Wei that good. Fair to say he wasn't very successive because of Liu Shan. However he is no excuse to god stats. I think he should get some good-negatives from his history. Enough said there. *Stat update. |
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| Seraphil | Nov 14 2009, 04:38 AM Post #54 |
The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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I'd like to see some boosts to a number of Liu Yan/Zhang's and Yuan Shu's officers. A lot of them are simply eviscerated way more than necessary. |
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| KauSu | Nov 14 2009, 11:29 PM Post #55 |
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Hey, Dang was cool but, 90 WAR? nty=( since I have a Yue Jin avatar (means that I'm automagically right.) I think that Dang's stats should be something like this: LDR: 83 WAR: 86 INT: 63 POL: 45 CHA: 72 On Lu Dai, I don't really know anything about him so yeah, not going to comment. On Jiang Wei, I agree that his stats are wayyyy beyond what he deserves, but now, you've made them WAYY lower than what he deserves :o. Maybe Wei could be something like: LDR: 75 WAR: 72 INT: 80 POL: 45 CHR: 68 |
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| Ike | Nov 15 2009, 06:04 PM Post #56 |
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Really? Jiang Wei is a Chen Daoist? YOU DARE NOT AGREE, with what I gave him? http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll243/davidispikachu/RageFace.png [RAGEFACE] I'm basing him off history-wise. His own faults and repetitive failures don't deem him worthy for over-the-commoner stats. It's true not all of it was on Wei. However there really isn't much miraculous stuff backing him up. It's atrocious to even consider his current stats. Han Dang, yeah that's good. You bring a valid point though. Yue Jin still has that piercing look and history. Lu Dai, great general under Sun Quan who brought an end to the Shi army. Also my take was based off favortism ty. More to come... Eventually.
Yeah. Zhang Ren is fine. Yan Yan and a few others could use some work. Yuan Shu himself, Zhang Xun, and Ji Ling IMO were overlooked. |
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| KauSu | Nov 16 2009, 12:11 PM Post #57 |
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Yan Yan is fine, and Jiang Wei should get a LDR boost to 81 too. |
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| Ike | Nov 16 2009, 12:20 PM Post #58 |
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Yan Yan IMO could use a tad boost in the INT and LEAD area. I think I'll add it in later today. Sure not an exaggerated number but a better. To be fair a few others too. Jiang Wei 81 LEAD? Isn't that a little higher from what you gave him before KauSu? Why? :( |
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| Seraphil | Nov 16 2009, 12:30 PM Post #59 |
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The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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Hmm, made a bit of a mistake. I didn't mean necessarily Liu Yan/Zhang's officers specifically, but rather the officers that appear in the Ba-Shu region. I was mainly thinking of the two Zhang Yis' modest stats. |
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| KauSu | Nov 17 2009, 08:26 AM Post #60 |
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Honestly? I just wanted to see your reaction.. But yeah, you butchered Jiang Wei man, totally butchered him with your stats. @ Seraphil: Yeah. Well, I know nothing about Zhang Yi (The one with the silly face). But I think Zhang Ni should get a stat boost. (The other Yi.) ============================== ============================== EDIT: This is a weird one, but. He Jin should get a stat boost. He wasn't really a butcher or anything, and his father was the general of somethingAndSomething. He was just indecisive, just like Yuan Shao. He received advice from many, and just listened to the wrong people, but as a military commander, he isn't as incompetent as they show him to be. Original RTKXI Stats: LDR: 36 WAR: 40 INT: 6 POL: 41 CHR: 68 APT full of Cs. No skill. Original KauSu stats: LDR: 67 WAR: 69 INT: 48 POL: 41 CHR: 80 APT: B/C/B/A/C/C Skill: Wealth, Taxation or Fame. Edited by KauSu, Nov 17 2009, 10:13 PM.
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SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM KAUSU: Me thinks that Ike should get ze Modship. Why so? It's pretty simple. I'll modestly point out why: - Friendliness and great charisma. - Excellent communication skills. - Is expert at using BOTH of his functional brain cells. [ End of message ] | |
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| Ike | Nov 19 2009, 04:57 PM Post #61 |
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Huh... didn't see that one coming. I'm not to big on officers who didn't do anything remotely significant and get well credited stats for it. But yeah, I'm standing on what I gave 'em. I really believe he need's to get downgraded. Not to the exact stats I gave, something more deserved for his successes to be fair. But that's just me probably being stubborn. (.I.E. butchering...)
I see. Zhang Ni is a definite choice for better stats. If I remember right he was one of the better Shu generals.
''My thoughts exactly!'' He Jin is pretty under rated as a general. Not the smartest general for sure but his current stats are plain horrid. Can't see myself playing him too often for said reason. Nice boosts. The better choice for his skill in my opinion would be rather ''Fame.'' He seemed better well known for his time, and also his current CHA seems to be his best. Zhang Xun ROTKXI [Original stats] -LEAD: 72 -WAR: 68 -INT: 41 -POL: 39 -CHA: 59 Stat change MEGA-Boost. Zhang Xun ROTKXI [Changed stats] -LEAD: 80 -WAR: 78 -INT: 75 -POL: 53 -CHA: 68 Skill: Fortitude. Reason: One of the best officers for Yuan Shu, he's a gem. Fought well against Lu Bu and managed to turn an encounter to a deadlock. Served in many battles too, brought scoring victories for his lord. (Ze, grand general!) I believe he wasn't highly thought through when he was given his current stats. I'd like to see him improved in the future. On a side note for the topic. How about we (''We'' as in everyone.) create a template to use for said officer changes? It can benefit from confusion and such, ease the work. Instead of making it out as we go. Thoughts? |
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| KauSu | Nov 19 2009, 05:11 PM Post #62 |
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Yeah, I agree on ze template. Let's work it out on MSN since we're the arrogant elitist active members that are Wei Fangirls. kekeke. Here's a good stat change btw: Man Chong base stats [XI] LDR: 84 WAR: 64 UNT: 82 POL: 84 CHR: 80 Skill: Assistance Improved Man Chong: LDR: 88 WAR: 72 INT: 85 POL: 84 CHR: 88 Skill: Iron Wall |
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SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM KAUSU: Me thinks that Ike should get ze Modship. Why so? It's pretty simple. I'll modestly point out why: - Friendliness and great charisma. - Excellent communication skills. - Is expert at using BOTH of his functional brain cells. [ End of message ] | |
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| KauSu | Nov 20 2009, 06:40 PM Post #63 |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: As of this post and onwards, the reformed thread rules and guidelines take effect. Be sure to read the very first post to see all of the new changes and such. - The Five Clicks of Mouse sect. Chief overseer of slaves, General of the (always) Right, KauSu. Edited by KauSu, Nov 20 2009, 06:41 PM.
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SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM KAUSU: Me thinks that Ike should get ze Modship. Why so? It's pretty simple. I'll modestly point out why: - Friendliness and great charisma. - Excellent communication skills. - Is expert at using BOTH of his functional brain cells. [ End of message ] | |
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| Xuan Zhongda | Nov 20 2009, 07:10 PM Post #64 |
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I just felt like doing Liu Shan for some reason. :melllow: Liu Shan[New Stats]ROTKXI LDR: 14 WAR: 42 INT: 16 POL:8 CHR: 52 APT: Spears: B Pikes: C Bows: B Cavalry: C Weaponry: C Navy C Reason: A lot of people say, "Liu Shan iz complete fail he make Shu go dead!!!" But, Liu Chan wasn't really a complete idiot. Though still pretty low of an intelligent move, Liu Shan had Huang Hao make all of his moves for him, not really Liu Chan's fault. Plus just because you're unitelligent, it doesn't mean you have 4 WAR. 
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| Ike | Nov 21 2009, 12:39 AM Post #65 |
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Epic work is epic. Kudos to you. Us fangirls worked out the template which can be found in an updated message. (First post!) About Man Chong, yeah, I like how you gave him a boost in CHA. It need's to be more around Sima Yi's level. Getting Xu Huang has to count for something. My main issue with Chong is in the previous title, where his WAR stat barely makes it out of the 50's. I've ran into bandits and dueled, and well you know... *Sticks to debating.* Replacing his Skill with Iron Wall? Nice choice. He did work with Cao Ren; methinks it would come naturally.
Yes. We've updated it a bit. Hopefully everyone can abide by them. Or find anything helpful in general, etc. Anyone wanna add anything we're missing just hit me up.
Pretty funny He-he.  Indeed. It's a real shame his stats went under. But considering he accomplished almost nothing throughout his time... MAYBE it's fine to have those kind of stats, lol. But for the most part I agree with you. His WAR is ridiculous when he reaches a certain age. (Yeah. I went there.) |
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| KauSu | Yesterday, 8:32 PM Post #66 |
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Hopefully abide by them? Where do you think you are? There's no democracy here. THIS. IS. THE STAT THREAD! So anyway, on Man Chong, defensively, he was pretty awesome. So Iron Wall made more sense in my little head. On Liu Shan, his WAR at a grown-up age is quite pathetic, like I said once before about Liu Du, a fly would overpower him and then stick it's..well, nevermind. But you get the general idea. |
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| Xuan Zhongda | Today, 1:51 AM Post #67 |
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Time to make an overated Shu officer look pathetic~ Guan Yu[New Stats]RotKXI LDR: 71 WAR: 97 INT: 62 POL: 49 CHA: 82 APT: Spear: A Pike: S Bow: C Cavalry: A Weaponry: C Navy: C Reasons: I have no idea in the world why KOEI would give Guan Yu such a good LDR value. All I can recall Guan Yu doing in terms of leadership is failing at Jing. Sure , Guan Yu deserves his WAR for defeating Hua Xiong, Yan Liang, e.t.c. but where did his POL and INT come from? It's ridiculous. Guan Yu=Fail. 
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I think this would suit him much better. His original stats bother me... Slight buffer up on his part.
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