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Im I supposed to get the supply unit before the Oda battleship comes, is the supply team supposed to be dead, does it have to do with the Oda ship, does this involve a time limit? I really dont know. Ive done this 3 times and niether a weapons box or a supply unit appeared. So unless someone knows how to get the weapon, im stuck with a level 3 weapon: Exalted Beauty

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 04:24 PM

Nagamasa's 4th

@LoW: I'm not sure, but isn't slaying Mitsuhide a requirement? Plus, I've noticed that killing Ranmaru before him prevents you from getting the weapon report. So in other words, I didn't kill Ranmaru, though still was able to get it.

Btw you can also prevent the explosion by killing Hideyoshi, and still get the weapon.

You might want to try and confirm this if you can.

LoW

Apr 18 2008, 02:48 PM

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 04:24 PM

Nagamasa's 4th

@LoW: I'm not sure, but isn't slaying Mitsuhide a requirement? Plus, I've noticed that killing Ranmaru before him prevents you from getting the weapon report. So in other words, I didn't kill Ranmaru, though still was able to get it.

Btw you can also prevent the explosion by killing Hideyoshi, and still get the weapon.

You might want to try and confirm this if you can.

Yes, I believe killing Mitsuhide is a requirement because that's what's said in weapon acquisition. But killing Ranmaru first doesn't prevent you from getting the weapon, though (that's what I've always done).

It's possible that you don't need to complete every mission, but it's recommended for the sake of your allies. If you lose too many, Keijun Miyabe defects and Nagamasa doesn't order his army to charge. I'll test it later tonight.

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 04:51 PM

LoW

Apr 18 2008, 02:48 PM

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 04:24 PM

Nagamasa's 4th

@LoW: I'm not sure, but isn't slaying Mitsuhide a requirement? Plus, I've noticed that killing Ranmaru before him prevents you from getting the weapon report. So in other words, I didn't kill Ranmaru, though still was able to get it.

Btw you can also prevent the explosion by killing Hideyoshi, and still get the weapon.

You might want to try and confirm this if you can.

Yes, I believe killing Mitsuhide is a requirement because that's what's said in weapon acquisition. But killing Ranmaru first doesn't prevent you from getting the weapon, though (that's what I've always done).

It's possible that you don't need to complete every mission, but it's recommended for the sake of your allies. If you lose too many, Keijun Miyabe defects and Nagamasa doesn't order his army to charge. I'll test it later tonight.

Why I'm saying this is because I got the weapon yesterday. I killed Ranmaru first, then Nobunaga commended me, but the report of the unit never showed. I saved it right before killing either one as well.

After that I killed Mitsuhide, then Nagamasa ordered the charge, and finally Nobunaga commends you. So I'm assuming that you need that order from Nagamasa since thats when the report came.

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 06:18 PM

Well, I don't see how because I got the weapon without killing Ranmaru. After I killed Mitsuhide, I got the report.

Edit: I see:

//And Nagamasa must order his army to charge within 10 minutes when the stage begins.

Thats likely it then. But Ranmaru still isn't a requirement. Though I find it strange that the weapon aquisition does not state a time limit either.

LoW

Apr 18 2008, 04:27 PM

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 06:18 PM

Well, I don't see how because I got the weapon without killing Ranmaru. After I killed Mitsuhide, I got the report.

Edit: I see:

//And Nagamasa must order his army to charge within 10 minutes when the stage begins.

Thats likely it then. But Ranmaru still isn't a requirement. Though I find it strange that the weapon aquisition does not state a time limit either.

Well, the hint does mention "defeat two famous enemy officers". It could also refer to Hideyoshi and Mitsuhide, but I don't know for sure since I've never left anyone alive.

Time limit is not always mentioned. I'd remember Kojiro's 5th also has a time limit even though it's not said in the hint.

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 06:38 PM

LoW

Apr 18 2008, 04:27 PM

LittleDragonZ

Apr 18 2008, 06:18 PM

Well, I don't see how because I got the weapon without killing Ranmaru. After I killed Mitsuhide, I got the report.

Edit: I see:

//And Nagamasa must order his army to charge within 10 minutes when the stage begins.

Thats likely it then. But Ranmaru still isn't a requirement. Though I find it strange that the weapon aquisition does not state a time limit either.

Well, the hint does mention "defeat two famous enemy officers". It could also refer to Hideyoshi and Mitsuhide, but I don't know for sure since I've never left anyone alive.

Time limit is not always mentioned. I'd remember Kojiro's 5th also has a time limit even though it's not said in the hint.

Kojiro's one said ''quickly'' or something like that, if I remember right? So that basically is a time limit note.

So what may have been the case with me was that I was very close to the time limit, and that if I defeated Ranmaru first I would've had too short of time to slay Mitsuhide, causing Nobunaga to commend me without Nagamasa's own charge quote? I guess since Mitsuhide was a requirement and Ranmaru wasn't then.

Koei should be more clear towards this kind of thing.

But yeah, it should be noted that Ranmaru isn't a requirement. Since he is not a mission, though famous?

Evil Jerk

Apr 21 2008, 05:06 AM

Doesn't Kenshin's 4th weapon require you to beat Mitsuhide before Ranmaru instead of the other way around?

I just did a bunch of these over the last two days following this guide (Yukimura through Nagamasa). I followed the guide exactly for Kenshin and didn't get it. So I consulted Mythril Wyrm's Kenshin guide on GameFAQs, which had the opposite order and I got it. However it lists getting trapped in the Shimazu camp instead of defeating the Hashiba Army as one of the requirements. I did both, both times to be safe.

LittleDragonZ

Apr 24 2008, 05:21 PM

Just a slight correction here LoW. On your Mitsuhide 4th weapon guide you have Mitsunari's name listed instead of his lol. In the requirements, check there.

I'll be getting this weapon again today since I'm using him. I also do think 40+ is the best time since its too hard to move from officer to officer whilst keeping your allies alive, in your early 30's, especially now that in XL's Toshiie is with Katsuie.

LoW

Apr 27 2008, 12:07 PM

LittleDragonZ

Apr 24 2008, 05:21 PM

Just a slight correction here LoW. On your Mitsuhide 4th weapon guide you have Mitsunari's name listed instead of his lol. In the requirements, check there.

I'll be getting this weapon again today since I'm using him. I also do think 40+ is the best time since its too hard to move from officer to officer whilst keeping your allies alive, in your early 30's, especially now that in XL's Toshiie is with Katsuie.

Yeah, I noticed that typo but now it's fixed.

I made slight changes to Yoshihiro's 4th weapon requirements. Ginchiyo is the last person who you need to rescue. You won't get the weapon if you rescue her before Sakon and Mitsunari.

LittleDragonZ

Apr 27 2008, 02:13 PM

LoW

Apr 27 2008, 12:07 PM

LittleDragonZ

Apr 24 2008, 05:21 PM

Just a slight correction here LoW. On your Mitsuhide 4th weapon guide you have Mitsunari's name listed instead of his lol. In the requirements, check there.

I'll be getting this weapon again today since I'm using him. I also do think 40+ is the best time since its too hard to move from officer to officer whilst keeping your allies alive, in your early 30's, especially now that in XL's Toshiie is with Katsuie.

Yeah, I noticed that typo but now it's fixed.

I made slight changes to Yoshihiro's 4th weapon requirements. Ginchiyo is the last person who you need to rescue. You won't get the weapon if you rescue her before Sakon and Mitsunari.

Oh yeah, I've got that anyway. Hmm..doesn't the aquisition requirements state rescuing her last? I know that I didn't get the guide for his here but otherwise GameFAQs.