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Warriors Orochi 2 - General Discussion
Topic Started: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:26 am (201,604 Views)
LittleDragonZ
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Sep 27 2008, 09:42 PM
Hasn't come out for your country yet?

Another thing I have noticed is there is a third set of customs. I'm liking Nu Wa's all white-blueish color swap.

The 3rd costume will be unlocked when you get 10 Proficiency for that given character. And if you never used the free levels on characters from your growth points, you would be at that stage in your early 30's.
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Sep 28 2008, 07:40 AM
You know, thinking about it more, I dont think the name Orochi X is really that bad.

I mean, think about, he's supposed a stronger version of Orochi himself, not a completely different person. So, in turn, he was given a name that implies that he has been "upgraded".

Take a bunch of other games for example, (just for this im using FF as my example even though I know FF and KOEI have nothing to do with eachother, but my point stands :P)

In a bunch of FF games, many characters have gone through similar transformations. Such as Sephiroth to Bizzaro/Safer Sephiroth, Kuja to Trance Kuja, Seymour and his many forms etc....and so forth.


I just thought id say my opinion on his English version name, because I think it fits right.

But Akuma/Gouki had Shin Akuma/shin Gouki when in EN/JP...where's the consistency for Koei? :(

Honesty Orochi X is okay, but Shin Orochi was waaay better sounding. :hehe:
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Err.. what's up with the generic Cygnus?

I believe it's in Battle of Odani Castle.
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Got it yesterday for the 360.
Hell, the lag made Wu Zhang Plains unplayable, 40 minutes of battle (even if the game counted 13 minutes).
I REALLY hope the patch comes out soon.
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Sep 28 2008, 05:35 PM
Err.. what's up with the generic Cygnus?

I believe it's in Battle of Odani Castle.

He's also in Orochi Stage 8. He's a mystic just like Fu Xi and the others.
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Yeah... watching the Hinokawa video, that really struck me odd.

Cygnus, and all those other names? I wonder where the localization team got those names?

Not to mention the names of the boards and the demon ninjas? We know the generic Orochi generals got their names from snakes, but what about the other three?
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Xalfrea
Sep 29 2008, 12:06 AM
Yeah... watching the Hinokawa video, that really struck me odd.

Cygnus, and all those other names? I wonder where the localization team got those names?

Not to mention the names of the boards and the demon ninjas? We know the generic Orochi generals got their names from snakes, but what about the other three?

the Boars are some REALLY obscure, and not that obscure mineral/stone names, WHO knows why? but i cannot find ANY common thread in the Demon Ninja names? Goldenrod, Wishbone...they must've just decided on some common theme and picked the 10 or so random names.

just finished SW Story. Normal, again. the third level was the only level i've lost yet, SIGH. i HATE escort missions. i get bored and panic-y in turns and end up making stupid tactical decisions. i let Naoe's life get a lower than half before i rescued him and he died in the fire area near the top. i got it the second time.

i got a bit bored with this Story as there are no female characters except Noh and Nene at Stage 6, and i'm only fond of Huang Zhong and Xu Huang of the starting generals, Zhang Jiao made up the third of my party until i got Noh...however, i felt like this was the least creative grouping of characters in the game. kind of like the remnants that did'nt make the Three Kingdoms Stories, and they cobbled them together and made a story based around the popular general Sakon, not bad, just MY least favorite.

Huang Zhong is THANKFULLY fixed from WO, his T arrow attack is REALLY strong, and he does good damage. Xu Huang seems about the same(good, not great). Zhang Jiao(one of my least favorite characters MS-wise in DW) is nicely changed, just like in WO, i actually like him in this game. Noh seems stronger than in WO(until i got her 4th weapon in WO, i was very disappointed), she's still one of the fastest characters in the game.

Fu Xi. i see very little difference in Guan Ping and Fu Xi, his VA IS really good and he looks OK, but more like a BladeStorm reject than a Chinese god. he's good in the same way GP is, but certainly not my favorite new-ish character. that's still Minamoto(oddly enough for me), his third costume is brilliant.

now i'm gonna get blasted, but i DEEPLY dislike Sun Wukong's VA. i tried, i really did, to hear what you guys are hearing...but he just reminds me of SW2 Keiji, who i despised just as much. his speech patterns and sayings seem so trite and common to me. ex:he says something like: "i'm outta' here!" in the Diao Chan/Zhang He/Motochika Dream Stage. i guess from reading "Journey..." i expected him to be characterized as more well spoken. *shrugs...sorry* JMO.

i've got Orochi's Story left to do, i've been busy working, and also taking my time and enjoying the game, i see no need to rush through. i'll start working on more Dream Stages this week. i could'nt resist the "Beautiful Musicians/Poets" Dream and did that one tonight.
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LoW
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Wu's Story finished. It was much better than in original WO for two reasons:

1. No Sun Shang Xiang
2. Story wasn't all about Sun family

However, I thought it was a little boring. Orochi was only seen and mentioned in the last stage and Sun Jian's attitude "To fight or not to fight" didn't please me at all >_>. But I liked the fact that Lu Bu had pretty important role. For some reason, that guy is neglected in all other stories (haven't played Shu's story yet but I'm surprised if I see him in more than one stage). Oh, and you can't forget Yoshitsune. His S string with enchanced sword is enough to destroy all enemies. No Charge attacks required.

Only Shu to go, and then I'll move on to Dream mode.
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After beating all stories, I'm focusing on Dream Mode stages and some conversations in Free Mode. Thanks to the guide on the main site about converations, I've been using it to get some good ones.
There's a lot of grat ones in Orochi's story using tcharacters that wouldn't be there, especially the mystics like Sun Wukong, Himiko, and Fu Xi.
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God's Island has to be the best track in the whole game. With Decisivie Battle/Final Showdown(the Koshi Castle remix) coming close second.

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^That tune is great. Fitting for Wu's battle against from what seemed unlikely odds. I do love most of Warriors Orochi's 1 and 2's music a lot, its just that I haven't heard anything that sounds as exciting as DW3's masterpieces.

Just gotten Keiji's 3rd costume about a week ago, and straight away noticed how huge it made him look. :shock:
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I just finished Wei story yesterday and I felt the ending to be a bit odd. Like what Nu Wa said about Orochi seemed kind of unexpected :huh:
I played through Nu Wa, Cao Cao and finished the last 4 levels with Toshiie. So far I prefer this story over the other two I finished(Shu and Orochi). Ill start Wu up today.
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Jasonic
Oct 1 2008, 06:57 PM
I just finished Wei story yesterday and I felt the ending to be a bit odd. Like what Nu Wa said about Orochi seemed kind of unexpected :huh:
I played through Nu Wa, Cao Cao and finished the last 4 levels with Toshiie. So far I prefer this story over the other two I finished(Shu and Orochi). Ill start Wu up today.

Is there any way for you to tell me what does Nu Wa says in the ending, without spoiling everyone? I would be grateful.

Damn i want that game now :P
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I have a question for those who have Tenbu.
I know how it works in theory, it makes all (or almost all) of your normal attacks elemental so if you have a very powerful weapon it makes you really powerful.
So my question is...just how powerful is that enchantment?
I mean, I haven't tried it out yet, I still need 3 of the treasures needed for the enchantment, but in theory, it sounds to me as if this enchantment is like...SO VERY DAMN BROKEN?! lol
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*****SPOILER******

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she says..."Orochi, it appears that this world belongs to these humans now...but that IS what you wanted...is it not?"

inferring, of course, that Orochi may have been more benevolent that we were lead to believe, and at least in the WO2 that perhaps the Mystics were somehow aligned with Orochi in having the Warriors achieve their full potential.. which is alluded to by Keijii several times in the Orochi Storyline.


and Chen-just take a look at some of the "Tenbuized" videos. it allows even fairly weak characters to become "GODS".
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The thing about almighty is multi activates 100% of the time. So..there's 3 or more of your character attacking with the same of every weapon element(Brave, Might, Slay, Flash to name a few). That's ALOT of damage in a short amount of time. Yes Chen, almighty is THAT broken. The trouble/time/attempts one goes through to get the ingredients pays for itself 10 fold.

Let's not forget the notables like Verity(True Musou without needing to be near death), Evasion(doubles your defense?), and the one that makes triple attacks happen reguardless of health bar status.
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Omg, thats awesome thatnk you very much foomin...so there is something fishy in here so maybe he was some sort of anti-hero?

Damn make WO3 now! :lol:
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Oct 2 2008, 01:02 AM
Omg, thats awesome thatnk you very much foomin...so there is something fishy in here so maybe he was some sort of anti-hero?

Damn make WO3 now! :lol:

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~IF YOU DON"T WANT TO KNOW WO2 STORY DETAILS DO NOT READ THIS~










Cao Cao also makes the statement to Nubunaga, Dian Wei and Sun Ce: if woman(Nu Wa) can do what she says she can...we have nothing to worry about(in reference to Orochi reviving?). which i'm perplexed about. Nu Wa is alone with Orochi at the end of the Wei Story(no Warriors, no Fu Xi, no Taiging)...what is she going to do...is it to Orochi's inactive body, as he's not dead just subdued? or is it a reference to some other feat she's going to perform? the other three stories end rather definitively, only the Wei Story seems to be unresolved to me.
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foomin
Oct 1 2008, 07:48 PM
*****SPOILER******

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she says..."Orochi, it appears that this world belongs to these humans now...but that IS what you wanted...is it not?"

inferring, of course, that Orochi may have been more benevolent that we were lead to believe, and at least in the WO2 that perhaps the Mystics were somehow aligned with Orochi in having the Warriors achieve their full potential.. which is alluded to by Keijii several times in the Orochi Storyline.


*****SPOILER******

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I don't think that's really the case. There's a few places here and there where it's suggested that Orochi is looking for a good place to die; Keiji hints that's what's really driving Orochi to do what he does. Remember, after Orochi's armies laid waste to the Three Kingdoms Keiji said Orochi didn't really look that happy, but after he fought Nobunaga that changed, as Orochi seemed to see something in Nobunaga and let him go. By that point Orochi likely figured out how to make humanity strong enough-- by backing them into a corner.

Then you have the Mystics which swoop on down and threaten to punish Orochi for eternity (as he was before Da Ji helped him escape)-- especially deny him from death.

And finally you have the cutscene where Orochi is holding his scythe up to Kiyomori, and Orochi seemed annoyed that he was brought back at all.

In my view it wasn't that Orochi was doing anything really benevolent, but rather was looking for that truly final battle so he could finally get what was denied him-- his own death.
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Done Wu and Orochi stories so far, SW is almost done, Yukimura's R1 is gonna take some getting used to now with its lag*sigh* he used to beable to destroy chaos with just that dunno bout now heh.
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Completely cleared SW on all difficulties. Now for more item farming. Then it's onward to completing Wu on all difficulties.

Just to toss this out there, I wiped the floor with Lu Bu on chaos. THAT WAS SATISFYING.
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Lu Bu is wimpy in WO2 ^^
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To be fair, I could never do it in WO1 and I could never beat him in DW on anything above easy, I did on chaos. Granted I was invincible with tenbu'd Da Qiao but I did it either way!

Oichi: "Yeah, go me!"
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Good for you! :P

Well I was unhappy how easy this game is though...the difficulty is really bad, and Chaos is like..maybe between normal to hard? :XD
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<_< why does everyone keep saying that. This game really isnt that easy, you snubs. Maybe the JP version is easier. Like ive said before, I play on Hard for my first play through of the story modes, and I die alot.
A lot of enemies gather together to fight you at one time, this is something I never remember happening in WO. But in this game, everyone just seems to gather toward you or go to one particular spot, thus making it quite a bit harder.
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