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Warriors Orochi 2 - General Discussion
Topic Started: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:26 am (201,600 Views)
foomin
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LittleDragonZ
Oct 6 2008, 07:54 PM
foomin
Oct 6 2008, 07:45 PM
OK what's going on here? i have a level 40 Ina and i cannot obtain a 3rd weapon for her? a similar thing happened with Kunoichi, Zhen Ji and Yue Ying, but after level 25 or so i finally got them. i have a level 9 Cao Ren with Roc, and a level 20 Katsuiie with Land and Sky, is it just female characters or what. i thought it might have something to do with who you finish the level with, but i've recently disproved that idea. can anyone help?

does a little jig, cause' i love making Rydain happy!

Thats your Karma being equipped? I've been starting with fresh characters on Chaos and have been jumping from 1st weapon to 4th on the 1st stage. Also note that its possible to get your 4th weapons on any star on hard difficulty when you have high enough Karma. Mines level 9 and I've been rarely getting the weapons below.

yup. Karmas on? and i got Cao Ren's and Katsuiie's 3rd's on Komaki Nagute, Ina was my third party member, she got 4 second weapons.
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LittleDragonZ
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Yeah, Karma is luck and gets you better weapons. Un-equip it in the ability menu.
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foomin
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LittleDragonZ
Oct 6 2008, 07:59 PM
Yeah, Karma is luck and gets you better weapons. Un-equip it in the ability menu.

am i just being daft? i thought Karma/Luck would help me obtain better weapons? why would i wish to un-equip it?
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foomin
Oct 7 2008, 03:29 AM
LittleDragonZ
Oct 6 2008, 07:59 PM
Yeah, Karma is luck and gets you better weapons. Un-equip it in the ability menu.

am i just being daft? i thought Karma/Luck would help me obtain better weapons? why would i wish to un-equip it?

Because you keep getting 4ths and it might help give you your 3rds. Thats why I've told you to try getting rid of it for the meantime.
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I believe what LDZ is implying that the game is choosing to be mean to you by using Karma to give you better 2nd weapons, rather than 3rd weapons :ph43r:
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bx111gamer
Oct 7 2008, 09:58 AM
I believe what LDZ is implying that the game is choosing to be mean to you by using Karma to give you better 2nd weapons, rather than 3rd weapons :ph43r:

Hmm... well foomin wants the 3rd weapons, he doesn't mention wanting the 2nds. Its just that with Karma you will have a higher chance I believe to get your 4ths than without, which is why foomin has said he keeps getting the 4ths.
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Why would you want 2nd and 3rd weapons when you can get 4th ones. For the gallery pics, I believe if you get the 4th weapon, the whole set will be unlocked. Just in case nobody have noticed this. :)
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LittleDragonKHM
Oct 7 2008, 10:51 AM
Why would you want 2nd and 3rd weapons when you can get 4th ones. For the gallery pics, I believe if you get the 4th weapon, the whole set will be unlocked. Just in case nobody have noticed this. :)

Ah cool. I never knew about this. I was indeed going to remove my Karma at a time and find the other weapons since I've been jumping from 1st weapon to 4th with many characters (thanks to Chaos mode.) I will check that out later.
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Xalfrea
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I just found that out a few minutes ago.
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Xalfrea
Oct 7 2008, 10:56 AM
I just found that out a few minutes ago.

Thanks for confirming. Perhaps this is what foomin wanted. Or perhaps he didn't want to use the 4ths because they are too useful. Anyway, I'm glad my knowledge has now increased by a small percentage. :P
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Xalfrea
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I was able to make my first almighty. Now I'm torn who to put it on.

Probably Lu Bu, Keiiji or Tadakatsu. Once I have almighty and the proper setups, I want to imitate one of Tetsuo's God videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2sAaYPrDMo
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LittleDragonKHM
Oct 7 2008, 12:51 PM
Why would you want 2nd and 3rd weapons when you can get 4th ones. For the gallery pics, I believe if you get the 4th weapon, the whole set will be unlocked. Just in case nobody have noticed this. :)

Maybe because 4th weapons make game less challenging? I actually made strong 2nd and 3rd weapons in WO just for fun. The game still didn't become uber-hard to beat but it was more challenging.

And that's strange, I have obtained 4th weapons for many characters and I haven't unlocked all artworks.
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That's because they don't unlock any artworks. They simply fill up the blank spaces in the weapons section.
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Kenzou Kenzan
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Using Karma on Hard and chaos almost guarantee you to get 4th weapons
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foomin
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LittleDragonZ
Oct 7 2008, 10:03 AM
Hmm... well foomin wants the 3rd weapons, he doesn't mention wanting the 2nds. Its just that with Karma you will have a higher chance I believe to get your 4ths than without, which is why foomin has said he keeps getting the 4ths.

OK, there was just a breakdown in communication. what i was saying was that i WAS wanting 3rd weapons. what i guess i was'nt clear about was that i had three characters(names are not important). one female level 40 with a nice 2nd weapon and two male under level 20 with normal 2nd's, i played a mid range difficulty level on Normal hoping to get thirds for all three, i got 3rds for the two male lower level characters, but not for the level 40 female character.

and as far as wanting 4th's i usually wait til all characters have 3rd's to begin working on 4th's, LoW is right in that aspect, 4th's make the game too easy, most of my really nice 3rds give me what i need to play the game comfortably, yet still with a bit of challenge.

so, LDZ, i will try removing Karma for a while and see if that helps, and report back. i thought the coincidence that this phenomena only happened with the female characters in my experience worth mentioning.
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I've just been attempting to get SW's stage 8 treasure. I've just double checked the guide by Rydain at GameFAQs and it mentions that I should kill Da Ji before Keiji.. I was doing it the other way around and even managed to clear all message spam by 54:30 one time. I did everything right with a 99 Sun Wukong except those two switching death times with each other. Hmm.. actually I'm pretty sure I killed Da Ji before Keiji once, but perhaps that was out of the time limit. I'll have another go later.
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LDZ and all others who offered assistance:that sorted it. i removed Karma from my abilities and i got Ina's 3rd immediately. i AM a bit confused, as i'm nearly 100% sure this was not an issue in WO? i really thought that karma helped one get better weapons all around, not just helped one get 4th's? i have Karma level 8.

on another note, Katsuiie's 3rd costume is weird looking. i don't care for the wolf head, however he is, once again(i have SW2:XL), one of my favorite male characters. he's so very strong and his T-string is just unstoppable.
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Lord_Redhand
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Katsuie's 3rd costume kinda matches Oichi's 3rd costume.
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Gotta say that I love Almighty skill. Makes so many people unstoppable. I especially love it with Kojiro and Sun Wukong. They're just crazy fast with it. And not to mention I put on ice and multi as well. Can you say overkill..... :sly:
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foomin
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Lord_Redhand
Oct 7 2008, 09:39 PM
Katsuie's 3rd costume kinda matches Oichi's 3rd costume.

:o OH! i had'nt thought of that. i have not played Oichi at all in WO2 yet. but you are so right. does Nagamasa have some animal head too?
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No he dosen't. He has his second coustume from WO and his costume from SW1.
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TrueMusou4432
Oct 8 2008, 01:16 AM
No he dosen't. He has his second coustume from WO and his costume from SW1.

Nagamasa was'nt in SW1/XL, except as an NPC, and his NPC look was...well... pretty much like his SW2/XL look...same helmet and all.
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That's the look he has, though. His SW1 NPC look.
I agree, it's pretty generic...
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tennoarashi
Oct 8 2008, 01:49 AM
That's the look he has, though. His SW1 NPC look.
I agree, it's pretty generic...

URGH! as if his LOVE, potential and honor talk was'nt boring enough...oh well, he's no favorite of mine in any case.

got Ina's 3rd today, *doing a delighted jig*, i just wish it was her SW:XL alt costume. but it's so nice to see her in armor again.

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foomin
Oct 8 2008, 01:57 AM
tennoarashi
Oct 8 2008, 01:49 AM
That's the look he has, though. His SW1 NPC look.
I agree, it's pretty generic...

URGH! as if his LOVE, potential and honor talk was'nt boring enough...oh well, he's no favorite of mine in any case.

got Ina's 3rd today, *doing a delighted jig*, i just wish it was her SW:XL alt costume. but it's so nice to see her in armor again.

The same can be said for Ieaysu as well since he also had a "unique" model in SW1.
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