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Worst Female character?
Topic Started: Feb 10 2008, 11:10 PM (6,651 Views)
SakichiKuN
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Well..Okuni is fun to be played...But, I really not comfortable with her musou...her personality?? She's always flirting people...that is really fun to see...it's funny, but sometimes it really annoying...heehee...

Gracia moveset also ugly on the ground...But the moveset is great on horse... I always played her because I like her personality, and she is Mitsuhide's daughter...Mitsuhide also my Favorite Character...But I always played her on horse...her moveset just feel uncomfortable on the ground...
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i voted for nene i cant stand her
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I voted Oichi. :huh: I think Okuni is alright, even though she can be annoying (such a flirt XD) I think Oichi is just all about Nagamassa, and other than that there's not much else to her. Not such a great reason, I know. (Strange, I play with her mostly on SW2).
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You know, after much speculation, I retract my original statement about Gracia being the worst female character. No, it's not because I now know how to supposedly play her 'correctly' (holy ****, I thought there was no wrong way to play a Musou game... oh wait, that's Reese's. My b!), or that I've oddly grown attached to her like I've done with Kunoichi (seriously, I don't know how that happened either. I used to really, really hate her. I mean... really... hate her. Like... danced around like a happy chicken when hearing she was cut hate her.)

Instead, I simply found a more suitable character to HATE MORE. That being? OICHI.

And because I pretty much spammed the poor SW3 Topic with my reasons, I won't bore you people here. Pretty much the whole weak-willed, sob fest that ultimately led two men to their dooms, her inability to grow a back bone and work hard to get that happy ending she secretly wants and continues to be a prime example of the term 'whiney emogit'.

Gracia, you've been promoted, now don't go looking for another strike. Get a REAL story that isn't some fangirl self-insert, and maybe you can stay a head above Whiney Emogit over there.

(I would like for Oichi to have a LITTLE bit more fight? PLEASE? Don't have to make her preppy and bratty like the first one, but don't turn her into a sniveling little emo girl either. BALANCE, Koei. Learn it.)
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Yeah the benefit of WO2 having all the female characters of the SW series under one roof confirmed once and for all Gracia is the worst female character to date to appear on the series.

Poor attack range, poor attack for that matter, a dependancy on draining musuo bar attacks both special and the musuo itself leaves her needing a strong personality instead to stand out over the others. On this she also failed, the story made very little sense with her stalking of Magoichi and indeed completely baffling overlooking of developing the potential plotlines of her and her father Mitsuhide. Her voice is also annoying and the look of the character isnt all that interesting either
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Feb 18 2008, 07:43 AM
Personally, I could do without Ina. Sometimes shes a bit too manly. I never liked her movest either. My favorite character and my best character is Lady Noh. Even those who dont like her have to admit that she is the most beautiful and one of the most(If not the most) powerful woman characters in SW.
what do you mean "even people who dont like her have to admit she is one of the most beautiful and powerful"

the main reason people don't like a character is because we DONT think their beautiful or powerful, duh.

I voted for Okuni. Because her musou is TERRIBLE!!!
She throws her umbrella so far that I never ever kill any soldiers. Also she seems so full of herself calling herself oh so beautiful.

But I do give her props for being a miko priestess who can beat people to death with an umbrella :D
Edited by LadyGetsuei, Nov 9 2009, 11:53 PM.
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Sep 15 2009, 03:49 AM
Yeah the benefit of WO2 having all the female characters of the SW series under one roof confirmed once and for all Gracia is the worst female character to date to appear on the series.

Poor attack range, poor attack for that matter, a dependancy on draining musuo bar attacks both special and the musuo itself leaves her needing a strong personality instead to stand out over the others. On this she also failed, the story made very little sense with her stalking of Magoichi and indeed completely baffling overlooking of developing the potential plotlines of her and her father Mitsuhide. Her voice is also annoying and the look of the character isnt all that interesting either
I highly disagree. The only reason Gracia is so bad in WO is because they took away everything that made her awesome.

When you play a sorcerer, you don't melee, you set things on fire.

I bet nobody would have complained if Gracia's magic was keyed to the square button for mashing frenzies instead of requiring effort to press the R1 button first. Different style of play does not mean "bad."

The story made fine sense, it simply just didn't utilize her existing chances for developments and interactions and instead made new ones.
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Sep 15 2009, 03:49 AM
Yeah the benefit of WO2 having all the female characters of the SW series under one roof confirmed once and for all Gracia is the worst female character to date to appear on the series.

Poor attack range, poor attack for that matter, a dependancy on draining musuo bar attacks both special and the musuo itself leaves her needing a strong personality instead to stand out over the others. On this she also failed, the story made very little sense with her stalking of Magoichi and indeed completely baffling overlooking of developing the potential plotlines of her and her father Mitsuhide. Her voice is also annoying and the look of the character isnt all that interesting either
Gracia is one of the best characters in SW2XL if you know how to play as her, it's just the way MO is programmed that makes her so bad. Her specials hardly do any damage and if she gets hit she pretty much goes flying simply because she is a speed type.
Also, I didn't find her story that bad in SW2XL. Her gaiden was pretty entertaining, at least to me.
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While I enjoy all the SW female cast, I feel that some movesets need to be fix or changed.

Ina: I love Bows, So when they added her I HAD to see what she was about. I felt like her moveset was abit short,unfinished and what not. I really don't like her SW2 costume, aside from that she is awesome.

Gracia: She has a rather odd style, I like this character alot but her moveset and weapon kinda threw me off. I see they were trying something new, very nice idea just moveset is off.

Okuni: Shes one of the females I felt were fine. Really enjoy this character hope shes in SW3.

Lady No: Yes, My favorite character. I've like her every since SW1. Her MS attack needs to change, the walking back while throwing bombs is cool but then you get out of range from the enemy.

Nene and Kunioch: Their movesets seem short as well. IMO is all the ninja characters have short movesets. I so hope they make them longer.

Oichi: I don't like her weapon, even tho I kill ALOT of people with her MS attack, its the weapon I hope the ring is better tho.









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I am befuddled by anyone complaining about Gracia's moveset. Personality is another story, but moveset? If you think Gracia is weak, you are clearly playing her wrong. You can't use Warriors Orochi, because that game forced KOEI to take out the part of her moveset that made her so deadly. Gracia's strength lied in her magic attacks, and her ability to regain musou in one glorious shot that also conveniently did damage to her enemies. When used right, Gracia can lay waste to a battlefield in mere moments without receiving any damage.

Personally, I voted for Okuni. Stats-wise, she's technically one of the strongest females. But her moveset is pretty horrid, and she has a totally worthless musou. If you have to use regular attacks during someone's musou, their musou is atrocious. Her regular moves tend to miss a lot more than hit, except for one or two strings. And her umbrella gliding, while cool looking, lost its reason once KOEI took out the castle stages with all the floor and wall traps.
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See, I even watched how to use her right, and I still don't like her moveset. Just not my cup of tea, or does it suit my kind of style.
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Your reason to dislike her moveset is at least a valid one. It's always a matter of taste for people liking or not liking certain moves(I personally don't like Keiji's at ALL, but I don't disregard that it is indeed powerful.)

The people who just say it sucks, or it is stupid for "forcing you to spam R1 attacks" just don't get it. I doubt they would have said that if her fireballs were programmed to the square button instead, instead there would be cries of "OMG shes 2 overpowerd!!1!!"
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Since you asked nicely not to fire Okuni all over the place I voted for Oichi.
Reasons, Firstly I hate the concept of her weapon, a cup and ball thingy... Yeh nice idea... Secondly I think her voice is really annoying in SW1, the kid look didnt work for her, in my opinion, and she at least looks better in SW2, Finally her alternate costume in SW1 is completely stupid... although I did laugh when I used it. ^_^
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...i choose gracia...

...she is pretty but i am sorry...
...cause i hate her weapon...
...oichi's weapon is a kendama but i really like it...
...it is more useful than gracia's bracelet...
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i chose gichiyo because to be honest i always found her a bit... scary
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i hate gracia.her moveset is horrible.look, i don't want anyone to catch my comment,put in his/hers,and give his oppinion against me,or agreeing with me.it's my opinion.graci moveset,for me,was terrible.i played with okuni one time.and for me,she owns gracia totally
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Well..Okuni isn't fun to be played...and, I really don't like her musou...her personality .

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Well, I know you don't want to hear this , but Okuni. Her personality is much too different in the two games (surprisingly I preferred her in the first game) and her moveset constantly bugs me, especially in the second game. In the first game, she had a unique story and strong connections to both Goemon and Keiji, which for me added a lot to her character. Though probably still the lowest on my list from SW1, I actually enjoyed her, even her moveset. In SW2, I felt like she was pointless. She had no story, her moveset seemed worse than ever, and she was far too hard to unlock for being, IMO, completely pointless. I mean, at least Ranmaru had a small story to fit into. I felt like that if Koei was going to add Okuni in the first place, they should have given her a bigger role and beefed up her moveset a little. I must also mention that in both games her musou was atrocious. Only her True Musou made it even worth using. So overall, I must say that Okuni is the worst female character in the game. To be honest, I enjoy all other female characters in SW a great amount more than Okuni.
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i hate gracia, not for her looks, she is cute, but her moveset is what i hate, another one would be ginchiyo, because she is not cute enough, my favroute would be oichi, for being the child mascort together with masamune and cute too, for a 15 yr old at least, well masamune is 18 yrs old, in the first game she is 8 yrs old and masamune was around 15, who cares welther both of them have wired personality, oichi's personality is alwasy like this, jus she alwasy cling on her husband nagamasa
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gracia because she lacks attack power and has a bad moveset.
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Okuni.

I just....couldn't play with her. Though I am not a big fan of Noh either, Okuni is to me by far the worst, even though she has the highest stats.
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Ginchiyo, I liekn ever use her, shes not too good, and she's not too cool looking either
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