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Taigong Wang
Topic Started: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:21 am (22,990 Views)
EviLina
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Rank isnt that matter to me now, as long as he has good moveset and musou :)

I can see it from his face that he has a cocky and arrogant attitude.. But, is it true that Taigong Wang is as sarcastic as Mitsunari? That would be wonderfull lol^^
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I don't really think he's as sarcastic; just a bit more eccentric and haughty. But definitely fun (to me, at least).
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hehe He I think Tai looks like Sunao-San ^_^
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Huh ah he so does not like me!! >_< Maybe he just have the same Hairstlye as me :mellow:
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I think I'll just post this since this summation (ganked from his Wikipedia) really... well, solidifies and summarizes his character.

He often went angling at the Weishui River, but he would fish in a bizarre way. He hung a straight hook, with no bait, three feet above the water. He over and over again said to himself, "Fish, if you are desperate to live, come and gulp down the hook by yourself."

In a little while his outlandish way of fishing was reported to King Wen, who sent a soldier to bring him back. Jiang noticed the soldier coming, but did not care about him. Jiang just continued with his fishing, and was soliloquising, "Fishing, fishing, no fish has been hooked—but shrimp is up to tomfoolery." The soldier reported this back to King Wen, who became more interested in Jiang.

King Wen sent a bureaucrat to invite Jiang this time. But Jiang again paid no attention to the invitation. He simply carried on fishing, saying, "Fishing, fishing, the big fish has not been hooked—but a small one is up to mischief."

Then King Wen realized Jiang might be a great genius so he went to invite Jiang personally, and brought many magnificent gifts with him. Jiang saw the king's earnest desire so Jiang decided to work for him.


He's a master of communication and waiting, clearly. On the spot using his environment to create overt enough analogies that only a few would understand right then, huh. He very much has that sort of 'genius' mentality but has overcome the differences in perception by mastering language.
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He looks cool, I really need to play with him :P
Does anyone knows the translation of his conversation with Da Ji in the first Shu cutscene?
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@tenno: haughty? I wonder what kind of conversation would be if Wang meet Mitsunari.. Haughty vs sarcastic :lol:

Wang's history: philosophistic words eh?!

@reaper: Sry, i cant read japanese kanji.. Maybe he says 'Next time we met,you are gonna die,b****' :P
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Everytime I see that cutscene I think they are teasing each other, they remember me of those GinchyoxMitsunari conversations :P
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Gyaaa!!! Dont remind that conversation XD

Teasing each other?! I think it's impossible for Wang to tease a woman.. He isnt that kind of man
And he has serious face when he talked to Da Ji.. If Da Ji tease him, it's possible
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If they follow myth, then he knows of Da Ji relatively well. The King mentioned in his story is the King whom Da Ji was a concubine for.
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So, Da ji is a concubine of a King who Wang worked for?
Someone said that Wang is the one who gave order to end Da ji's life
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More or less, yes. He is the one who exorcized her from the Kingdom (and since she was a spirit, she died).
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Apr 4 2008, 02:13 AM
So, Da ji is a concubine of a King who Wang worked for?
Someone said that Wang is the one who gave order to end Da ji's life

Maybe Im getting my mythology mixed up here, but I thought Da Ji was the fox turned into woman who corrupted the King...

anyways, Im surpised they made Jiang Ziya so young, consider this is what he looks like in another KOEI game, RoTK XI

Lu Shang

As you can see, his intelligence score is 100 in that game, rivaled only by Zhuge Liang
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The woman the fox spirit turned into was Daji, a kind and sweet concubine of the King's. Fox Spirit Daji is the bad one.

Yes, he's normally known to be old. He joined that king - during the fishing story above - when he was about 70. I had no idea he was in RoTK, that's so cool. :)
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But why he is called Taigong Wang instead of Jiang Ziya or even Lu Shang in MO:MS?

Jiang exorcized Da Ji? That's cool, does anyone knows how he did it? :P
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Yeah,how can he have 3 different names?

This title thread said that Wang was chinese god of strategy, so he should has intelligence above Liang,shouldnt he?
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Apr 4 2008, 02:49 AM
Yeah,how can he have 3 different names?

This title thread said that Wang was chinese god of strategy, so he should has intelligence above Liang,shouldnt he?

It's confusing, but you have to consider this first:

Jiang Ziya/Lu Shang lived roughly in 11th century BC, before Chinese adopted the practice of recording down factual history, therefore, his real life story is heavily mixed with legends and myths, and its hard to tell them apart.

What we do know is that he is a real person, named Lu Shang or Jiang Shang, yes, he goes by 2 last names, not 2 first names.

Taigong Wang is his nickname, given by the lord he was serving.

Jiang Ziya is used primary in mythology, when he was exorcising demons and spirits, which of course, are made up.

He is considered one of the great strategists in ancient china, but he is not the God of anything, even in mythology.
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Have some cute Taigong, Lu Xun & Tadakatsu fanart. <3
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Hmm... So, Taigong Wang is a nickname from the king eh?!
Thank you so much for the information, Nien :)

@tenno: Waii.. a cute pic of Wang *steals* :P
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Thanks for the information bout Tai Gong Wang, no wonder I've been wondering who he is cuz I knew the name but I don really know who was it! :lol: Yeah, his biography has reminded me somehow... hes a interesting person.
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I didnt know him at the first time too XD

Anw, i have tried Wang's moveset yesterday.. It's very funny, fishing style attack.. His bait is surely a BIG one lol^^
And how can his C2 is kinda similar with Zhen Ji's C2? But since Wang using his fishing rod, so the range is larger ^^
I like his C3

I understand what Gtown has said earlier about Wang's musou.. All he can do is fishing ne :)
He is trying to pull his fishing rod because the "fish" had eaten his bait :P
I like him :wub:
Too bad i dont like much of his seiyuu XD
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Looks like he already have a fanbase, just look how many people is using a sig or an avatar featuring him :P
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Yeah, that's absolutely right, Mitsuhide :)
There are many members who are using Wang pic in their siggy, including you, right? :P

I want to use Wang set that Blue_Eyes_Oni has made for me, but i have used it before lol^^

Many ppl using Wang set, but least members posting in here ne?
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People are probably just excited that he's a new character, more or less. One should give it time; and once the novelty of being new wears off - then we'll see who's still a fan of his actual character.

And sometimes it goes the other way. I'm a big fan of him thus far, but no Taigong in my sig. :lol:
Taigong himself is a pretty neat archetype for KOEI to follow through with; the 'isolated genius' type - the one who's such a genius that even his most basic behaviours seem eccentric to people who can't understand it (like the fishing thing).
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People are probably just excited that he's a new character, more or less. One should give it time; and once the novelty of being new wears off - then we'll see who's still a fan of his actual character.

And sometimes it goes the other way. I'm a big fan of him thus far, but no Taigong in my sig. :lol:
Taigong himself is a pretty neat archetype for KOEI to follow through with; the 'isolated genius' type - the one who's such a genius that even his most basic behaviours seem eccentric to people who can't understand it (like the fishing thing).

Yeah, your reason is right.. New character with handsy face :wub:

I'm his fan, but didnt use his set too.. I will become his fan until i die :P
His fishing hobby and weapon is very interesting, i think

Anw, why do everytime i "bang" his bait, there's a ying-yang logo like aura left behind?
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