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Kiyomori Taira
Topic Started: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:54 pm (6,923 Views)
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Mar 27 2008, 03:16 AM
This is a pretty good addition seeing as Kiyomori could add depth to Yoshitsune's story but would he affect the story of any other character. Kiyomori looks pretty evil I must say but he kind of reminds me of Jinpachi.

He was revealed/added before Yoshitsune was.
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Mar 27 2008, 01:16 PM
This is a pretty good addition seeing as Kiyomori could add depth to Yoshitsune's story but would he affect the story of any other character.

I think he's going to be more of an influence than you think, after all, he is the one trying to revive Orochi, right? So he'll be making a lot of enemies.
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Ok, so now after seeing the video of his gameplay, I think I'm going to like playing this character even more.

I guess he has a DW style moveset and his C4 seems to be his best move, his C3-2? has that huge blast at the end plus it gives him that defensive shield that actually explodes when in contact with enemies :ph43r: His S8 also has the red aura blast at the end, his C5 looks like another decent crowd move, and his musou looks wickedly powerful.

The only thing I didn't see well enough was his special. It took a HUGE chunk of musou, but because it was used on a peon, I couldn't tell what kind of damage it did.
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uhm...he has SW charge moveset not DW, all people from Japan has SW moveset ;)
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I just checked, and Kiyomori's R1 does absorb life (a pretty hefty amount as well). It also deals a significant amount of damage, at least to the generics I've tried it with.
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Hmm he's the only new character I'm not looking forward to playing. His moveset does look good and so does his weapon but there is something about which doesn't seem very appealing to me. He seems like an interesting addition but still. We'll see when I get the game some day.
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IMO Kiyomori, Yoshitsune and Himiko are the most awesome out of new characters.... :ph43r: Goku and Taikobou are not all they crack up to be :rolleyes:
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Kaisama
Apr 3 2008, 04:12 AM
uhm...he has SW charge moveset not DW, all people from Japan has SW moveset ;)

Ahh ok, I was basing my analysis on what I saw from the video. I was trying to compare the structure of his moves to other characters and his C3 looked like it had DW-like C3 progression (like Sun Ce). Thanks for clarifying that ^_^

Serenity
Apr 3 2008, 06:06 AM
I just checked, and Kiyomori's R1 does absorb life (a pretty hefty amount as well). It also deals a significant amount of damage, at least to the generics I've tried it with.

Awesome, thanks for checking that Serenity ^_^ I am really starting to like this guy :ph43r:
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You know, for being a relatively major part of this new storyline - I never saw him featured much in the scenes or the like. I wonder what his motivation and the like is?
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tennoarashi
Apr 3 2008, 11:04 AM
You know, for being a relatively major part of this new storyline - I never saw him featured much in the scenes or the like. I wonder what his motivation and the like is?

I only know that he is responsible for trying to bring back Orochi, and that he summons Himiko (there's a cutscene of him chanting over her body)
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Apr 3 2008, 03:05 PM
tennoarashi
Apr 3 2008, 11:04 AM
You know, for being a relatively major part of this new storyline - I never saw him featured much in the scenes or the like. I wonder what his motivation and the like is?

I only know that he is responsible for trying to bring back Orochi, and that he summons Himiko (there's a cutscene of him chanting over her body)

Exactly! There's very little on him right now; and I know people aren't really focusing on the plot or characters - but he's pretty much the reason there is a MOMS (in-story). Interesting....
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Apr 3 2008, 11:14 AM
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tennoarashi
Apr 3 2008, 11:04 AM
You know, for being a relatively major part of this new storyline - I never saw him featured much in the scenes or the like. I wonder what his motivation and the like is?

I only know that he is responsible for trying to bring back Orochi, and that he summons Himiko (there's a cutscene of him chanting over her body)

Exactly! There's very little on him right now; and I know people aren't really focusing on the plot or characters - but he's pretty much the reason there is a MOMS (in-story). Interesting....

I've seen him as a a final enemy in a few stages. I wonder if he has become the Dong Zhuo of MO:MS ... the enemy commander you have to fight repeatedly before getting to Orochi :huh:

I would like to know more about how he fits into the story and what his motivation for doing these things is. Though finding out would be a huge spoiler no doubt ;)
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Feb 19 2008, 08:55 AM
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So is there anything special about him that made Koei put him in a game concerning Orochi and pretty much mythic figures? Or is he some kind of random famous guy Koei just pulled out of a hat and slapped him into the roster?

Well, aside from certain obscure relations stated above, he seems to be pretty much random. They probably just chose him because he's a famous "evil" person, and they needed more real allies for Orochi. If you think about it, nobody except Da Ji actually likes the guy in the first game. Everyone who's fighting for him is either planning to kill him (Cao Pi/Lu Bu), afraid of him (Masamune), or looking for power as always (Dong Zhuo). Everyone except Da Ji and Lu Bu betrays him under the right conditions. Really, he's in desperate need of someone genuinely evil, and not just stupid pig evil (Dong Zhuo), but evil in a pure and cool way.

You forgot his friend Keiji Maeda.And Sun Ce,Ieyasu,Zhuge Liang,Guan Yu,and ZHang Fei in the "forced to serve him" section.
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I think Tairo no Kiyomori is soooo scary!
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if i'm not mistaken, Kiyomori and Yoshitsune's families were historical rivals in the Heian period. he pretty much wiped out the Minamoto family line, exiling Yoshitsune and another half-brother. later the remaining Minamoto would be the downfall of the Taira. Kiyomori died a horrible death of some sort of fever and was said to have been so hot with fever he burned anyone trying to help him. in this state, i believe, he was said to have had visions of/conferred with demons, which sort of explains the Orochi connection.

this is a simplified version of a much larger story.
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wow foomin really that sounds horrible.
i thing he looks scary but very powerful. his hoola hoop looks cool and i like the way he is like lord orochis right hand man or bodygaurd.
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:blink: Hoola hoop?

He uses a giant rosary for a weapon ...

LMAO!!! Now I know why Kiyomori pants after he attacks ... he's too old and tired after playing around with his hoola hoop :lol:

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In all seriousness, I would like to know what triggers that. I thought I was able to determine how after watching a couple of gameplay videos, but after TSK's last one I'm not sure anymore how he does it :unsure:
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oops my bad thought it was a hoola hoop. :lol:
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i think Taira No Kiyamori is elish he looks so cool near my orochi and Da Ji
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Jul 9 2008, 08:04 PM
oops my bad thought it was a hoola hoop. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Man, I can see him panting for real. A man that size trying to hoola hoop, I'd die laughing if I saw that in a game for a gag :lol:
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Jul 9 2008, 08:04 PM
oops my bad thought it was a hoola hoop. :lol:

Maybe he's in his mid-life crisis -_-

His design looks nice though, it kinda reminds me of Astaroth from SC but then more samuraiesque. ^_^

And from what i've seen on the vids on Youtube, he can do serious damage with his rosary. His moveset is like Zuo Ci, both physical and magical attacks.

It's great to see that Orochi has a new demonic sidekick besides Da Ji. Those 3 should've had their own Dream mode stage...

Does Kiyomori play a role in Orochi's story mode, or does he only appear as a bad guy on the other 4 stories?
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Orochi's story is a prequel to how Orochi rose to power, but I don't think there is any mention of Kiyomori.
Hoola Hoop, thats a good description for his weapon. :lol:
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thanks i really did think it was a hoola hoop
oh well :lol:
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So Orochi's right hand man his bodyguard definately got the look to be with orochi aand got the moves too this guy is evil and i like it and i love his weapon it is very different
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he weapon is a hoola hoop heheehe
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