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Orochi X
Topic Started: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:51 am (18,901 Views)
Thee Yuan Shao
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LBM170
Apr 25 2008, 08:19 PM
Got him too...I noticed that a lot of people don't seem to be mentioning something about him. He only has 4 charge attacks. Not like Orochi, who only has for, but can extend them farther since he's a charge type, but Shin Orochi only has 4 IN TOTAL, which is...so lazy. >_> I was really disappointed.

Grrrr, Koei is gettin lazy again. <_< :angry:
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His c2 is like Okuni's or Nobunaga's where he hits enemies into the air and then attacks them but he does it all with one T press instead of 3. His c4 is similar to chargeable area blasts like Shingen's c4 but he does it with one T instead of 3 (plus it does way more damage <3).

Its not that big of a deal that he only has 4 charges. Koei didn't have to include a new final boss character at all so I don't see how this makes them lazy. Koei can't do anything without being called lazy these days <_<
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I noticed that with my setup for Shin Orochi, only the first hit of his C2 hits...the rest is just him going higher, spinning like a helicopter. o_o His C3 is one blast of energy...just one. And yeah, I mean, his C4 is amazing, but it only is one move. Even if it gives more damage for more triangle presses, it's still one move.

Well, normally I'd agree there, but for all the things you have to do to unlock him, you'd think he would have at least the same amount of moves that normal Orochi has, but no. =o That's only why I say it's lazy, or rushed, maybe.
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Thee Yuan Shao
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Jorgh
Apr 25 2008, 10:10 PM
His c2 is like Okuni's or Nobunaga's where he hits enemies into the air and then attacks them but he does it all with one T press instead of 3. His c4 is similar to chargeable area blasts like Shingen's c4 but he does it with one T instead of 3 (plus it does way more damage <3).

Its not that big of a deal that he only has 4 charges. Koei didn't have to include a new final boss character at all so I don't see how this makes them lazy. Koei can't do anything without being called lazy these days <_<

So, did I offend you?
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ryan
Apr 25 2008, 11:26 PM
Jorgh
Apr 25 2008, 10:10 PM
His c2 is like Okuni's or Nobunaga's where he hits enemies into the air and then attacks them but he does it all with one T press instead of 3.  His c4 is similar to chargeable area blasts like Shingen's c4 but he does it with one T instead of 3 (plus it does way more damage <3). 

Its not that big of a deal that he only has 4 charges.  Koei didn't have to include a new final boss character at all so I don't see how this makes them lazy.  Koei can't do anything without being called lazy these days  <_<

So, did I offend you?

When people are constantly whining about koei being lazy it's bound to string a cord after a while. Sides too many unappreciative people who never stop complaining.
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Thee Yuan Shao
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Daosiying
Apr 26 2008, 01:56 AM
ryan
Apr 25 2008, 11:26 PM
Jorgh
Apr 25 2008, 10:10 PM
His c2 is like Okuni's or Nobunaga's where he hits enemies into the air and then attacks them but he does it all with one T press instead of 3.  His c4 is similar to chargeable area blasts like Shingen's c4 but he does it with one T instead of 3 (plus it does way more damage <3). 

Its not that big of a deal that he only has 4 charges.  Koei didn't have to include a new final boss character at all so I don't see how this makes them lazy.  Koei can't do anything without being called lazy these days  <_<

So, did I offend you?

When people are constantly whining about koei being lazy it's bound to string a cord after a while. Sides too many unappreciative people who never stop complaining.

I never complain about Koei though.
Sorry that you took it the wrong way.
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LBM170
Apr 25 2008, 11:06 PM
I noticed that with my setup for Shin Orochi, only the first hit of his C2 hits...the rest is just him going higher, spinning like a helicopter. o_o His C3 is one blast of energy...just one. And yeah, I mean, his C4 is amazing, but it only is one move. Even if it gives more damage for more triangle presses, it's still one move.

You don't happen to have lightning equipped on your weapon by any chance would you?

I had a similar occurrence with Yue Ying while having Tenbu equipped. Her jump charge usually hits the target enemies on the first two strikes but wholly misses on every other hit. I found that by completely removing the lightning element on her weapon she was able to land all her hits with her jump charge 100% of the time.

This was also true to Shin Orochi as well. I had him equipped with lightning element and his C2 did exactly like what you described. I'm guessing the cause is the lightning stunning the enemy, and hence the enemy is unable to be lifted up for the airborne attacks.
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So Lightning is bad for Shin Orochi?

*Tabs it down so that i can add it to my Guide*

Any more we will be needing to know? Like the enchants and all, which work and which dont
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Apr 26 2008, 04:01 PM
So Lightning is bad for Shin Orochi?

*Tabs it down so that i can add it to my Guide*

Any more we will be needing to know? Like the enchants and all, which work and which dont

It's only bad if you intend to use his C2 a lot, which isn't that great. For everything else, lightning is good to have since it stuns and damages surrounding enemies.
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Yeah you will probably mostly be using his c3 (to blow up peons) and his c4 (for everything else XD). Though I did notice his c2 actually does require more than one T press regardless of what his move chart says. It is pretty strong against generals.
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Hmm, for most characters yes if you just use the lightning element then it won't lift them high in the air but usually if you use lightning with multi element then the multi effect will lift them high enough to connect with the rest. The multi element will most likely have to be in the high 8-10.

Well I only have a couple more characters to get their attack proficiency up to 50 and I'll have Shin Orochi unlocked. Then I'll test out the usual effects when I get those maxed out and go from there.
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As soon as I get mah Shin Orochi, I will be doing my FAQ on him, will be posted on the Guide section and GFqas.
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May 2 2008, 01:41 AM
Hmm, for most characters yes if you just use the lightning element then it won't lift them high in the air but usually if you use lightning with multi element then the multi effect will lift them high enough to connect with the rest. The multi element will most likely have to be in the high 8-10.

I think it's still better to avoid lightning altogether if you want to land all airborne attacks all the time. If I recalled, my Yue Ying weapon setup had Multi 10 and with lightning her air charge only lands all its hits between 20-30% of the time.
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i dont like the look of him. he just lookslike orochi and has the smae armour and weapon just gray hair. i think his moves are better than orochis though.
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I think i might like him better than orochi because he is Orochi's rebirth form but can some one tell me -- is he acctually in the story modes?
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well i dont knowexactly but i like him better than orochi.
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i hope he does when they bring him back to life
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meee toooo
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My god, now I fancy Shin Orochi :D
Tell ya the truth, I wasnt quite appealed byt Orochi's first look till this came out, I was like "WOOOAH!! That lucky fox Daji..."
Anyways, he looks much scarier, moveset looks better and I sooo cannot wait to trade up my FF7 - Dirge of Ceberus and Kingdom hearts 2 for Warriors orochi 2 B)
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Hasnt really changed that much beside no crown and white hair doesnt really look that much cooler than the other Orochi
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Well he just had gone do a new hair cut, but he still looks really cool ;)

Besides what fun will be if Orochi was revived and didn't show his true Might?


Off-Topic - Post nº 100 :P
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Orochi's new look is awesome, as if the old one was awesome enough. does he have the same weapon orochi does? his white hair is so awesome!! why the hell didn't he take off his helmet in WO1?!
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Orochi and Shin Orochi are actually not to different warriors they are the same. Shin Orochi is just the true form of Orochi.
Still the same guy just,how do i put this,a transformed version

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Orochi's new look is awesome, as if the old one was awesome enough. does he have the same weapon orochi does? his white hair is so awesome!! why the hell didn't he take off his helmet in WO1?!


Yes he has the excact same weapon just more powerful
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So I finally got him 12 hours ago, now it's time to rate him:

His moveset is reaaaaal small I give you that. Excluding Jumps and what not, this is practically his moveset.
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T T T T

Yep, C2 to C4 are all 1 presses, but it's certainly enough. Give him the right elements and with Tenbu, his C2 is a OHKO. EVEN ON CHAOS.
C1 is not bad, but only useful to disorientate the enemy and drain his musou so you can quicky chain a C2 in XD
C3 is WOW, the range hits like as far as any projectile can possibly go, anything in it's path gets hit. It passes through small objects and breaks structures too ^_^
C4 is amazing. Time it right and you could take out a lot of the enemy's health.
His S2 is a bit different from the original where he actually thrusts the Scythe's tip to the ground which causes Fire to activate.
The ending string is not bad to freeze some enemies too, but could've been better.

R1 is godly! (When timed right again) You could chop an enemy's health (on hard or lower) by half or more at Lv99. On Chaos, it still does a decent amount. Way better than original's R1.
The rest is practically the same as the original.

Overall, I'd say an interesting redesign to Orochi but only thing I think that lacked was the T string and the variation the the moveset, but what can I say? It's still the same person so some stuff's gotta change.

Do check out my Orochi/Shin Orochi double FAQ which I will put up soon detailing the differences on their MS in gameplay and on Chaos Mode. ;)
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So was he really that hard to get :huh: ? Because it sounds like it took you a long time, Spudface. I plan on completeing most everything in WO2, but with the edition of my sister downstairs, im reconsidering some things, so is it worth it to get him or not?
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