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| Orochi X; Known as Shin Orochi in the Japanese Version. | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 31 2008, 09:51 AM (8,766 Views) | |
| MistressSunDao | Oct 30 2008, 02:01 AM Post #151 |
First Lieutenant
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He is half human looking because Kiyomori used some of Himiko`s essence  Strategy in survival mode... First I hope for you you wont have him as active opponent if you are over 12 victories... he can be very cheap The cool moves Start a battle with a charge attack, that will stun your opponent or if she/he was jumping or landing will be send flying back. Use the move Attack Attack Attack Charge when your opponent is stunned or attacking you fiercely. This is an area of effect that affect both ennemies front and behind you, and even laying down ennemies. This move is an unblockable. I reached 15 victories with him but i stood too close of the edge and Da Ji just jumped and send many balls of energy at me and so i fell down the ring... So much respect for her master  Edited by MistressSunDao, Oct 30 2008, 02:11 AM.
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| LegendarySeaDragon | Oct 30 2008, 02:06 AM Post #152 |
NOT the Serpent King xD
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Is that confirmed?  I figured that all the insane power he possesses came from Himiko's essence, and that the human-looking appearance was just a result of him being reincarnated. |
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Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi. | |
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| MistressSunDao | Oct 30 2008, 02:14 AM Post #153 |
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Well... no not confirmed. But it will be logical. But his race his humanoid. His normal peons look like humans with grey scalled body and white hair. They dont look snake (well they propably have snake eyes & tongue) Maybe he looks more human because he dosnt have his snake helmet on
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| LegendarySeaDragon | Oct 30 2008, 02:19 AM Post #154 |
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NOT the Serpent King xD
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Well, he is a snake demon. It'd only make sense that he has a humanoid shape while retaining his serpentine features. Same thing with his generic troops and officers. The only thing that would freak the hell out of me is if he extended his neck a la Orochimaru. The fact that his "armor" opens to reveal that crazy six pack and pecs would also add to the human-like appearance. |
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Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi. | |
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| MistressSunDao | Oct 30 2008, 02:38 AM Post #155 |
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Well... he looks more awesome now  the snakey horns on his helmet was kinda ugly lol
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| LegendarySeaDragon | Oct 31 2008, 02:13 AM Post #156 |
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NOT the Serpent King xD
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It's good there's no Orochimaru extension attack for Orochi X. That'd ruin the moment. He'd also have a strange relationship with young boys O_o |
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Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi. | |
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| Tesouken | Nov 17 2008, 04:30 AM Post #157 |
Han's Unifier
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So about his intentions, anyone here agree with me that he is somehow trying to let humans get more powerfull as in let them earn their right of the human world? Their planet. And at the same time maybe nuwa knows alot more about it than she gave away, as she said in wei ending that orochi might have meant to make humans earn their world. Maybe the gods really were out to invade the world, why else would taigong wang (someone i still dont trust storywise) be so cocky toward humans i doubt he was on earth for a picknick. I really think, especially seen as the camera got rather close to orochis humanly featured face in wei ending, it was meant to show orochi was not as evil as some would want to believe, that his intentions might have been alot different than the cliche of dark vs light. What think you guys? |
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| Totoro | Nov 17 2008, 05:04 AM Post #158 |
a very lost person
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Yes I agree. Interesting that Koei would put that in and yet have nothing else in the game that expands on that. Maybe Koei knows how to create a better story then I thought they could maybe it will setup for another chapter in the saga. It is interesting that there was no other indication within the other stories, although i am fine with that, because it made the stories more diverse then they were in WO.
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 refer to this post to why I am a loser and a failure at leaving for 2 years http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/single/?p=8368163&t=6652653 | |
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| LegendarySeaDragon | Nov 18 2008, 05:41 AM Post #159 |
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NOT the Serpent King xD
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Orochi was testing the warriors of both time periods to see if they were worthy to rule this world. They beat him once, but he was not satisfied, which led to the plan of his resurrection. Satisfied that humanity could best him even with renewed power, he finally accepted death over the prison he was placed in years ago. |
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Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi. | |
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| virsago_mk2 | Nov 22 2008, 05:31 PM Post #160 |
Former King of DW5 Xtreme Mode
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Orochi X. Is. Worthless. After all of the shits, accumulated just 2600 proficiencies to unlock Dream 27 because of an unknown glitch, decimating the whole Dream 27 in 4 difficulties with Hanzo & get Orochi X & 1000/1000 achievements... I must say that Orochi X is just not worth all the suffering that I've been through for a month. I know he's supposed to be an enhanced Orochi, or just say Orochi mode Orochi, or Orochi XXX or Super Orochi, or Mizuchi Orochi, or Riot On The Skin Orochi, or Kotorofuumachi, or Kiyorochimori or Mochi Morochi or WTFever that is. BUT, he's just pathetic. Even though Orochi X comes with complete moveset, he's more horrible compared to normal Orochi himself. The only difference on the S-string is the 9th hit, which is now a spray of 5 Ice blocks, almost like Orochi's C1-2 but with smaller hit box, that sometimes doesn't even hit the enemy right infront of him. C1 maybe useful to stun & debuff your opponent. But other than that, I found no other use. This attack doesn't even kill the leader officer, much like No's R1 Bomb, it only do a small damage. C2 is pathetic. Very tiny hit box, even tinier than Yoshimoto's R1. The opponent MUST standing slightly to the left side of your front if you want to launch the enemy with C2. Even with Range 10, it doesn't give additional range. C3 is the only move that very useful for him, as crowd clearer & instant-kill. Yes, INSTANT KILL, with an effort. Hit C3 to a hopeless enemy like Ultra Mode Lu Bu with 2xDefense, on the farthest distance. If you hit the enemy on the last animation of the C3 where it starts to fade on the maximum traveling distance, it'll glitch & does multiple hits like glitchy Kenshin's C8 or Gracia's D+R1 on walled enemy, and say beat it to that hopeless Lu Bu. C4 maybe overpowered. Wide range 360degrees, invincibility during start up & long duration of attack. But it's worthless against enemy that isn't juggled. If the enemy hit by C4 & fell down, s/he will only get hit once on the ground with minimum damage. Whereas if the enemy is juggled, C4 will hit them multiple times which is devastating enough but not as devastating as glitchy C3. And like any other 360degress move, unless you rotate the camera & positioned infront of you, it won't hit any enemies behind you unless they're at the point black range. A glitch that always presents since DW4. R1 Shun Goku Satsu is good, has 360degrees coverage. But, like C4 it suffers from the camera position glitch. Other moves are the same as Orochi, can't comment on that. Gosh, I'd rather have another lvl.999 run in DW5XL Xtreme Mode now... Edited by virsago_mk2, Nov 22 2008, 05:47 PM.
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| LegendarySeaDragon | Nov 22 2008, 05:42 PM Post #161 |
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NOT the Serpent King xD
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Sorry you feel that way about the character. |
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Prepare for a laugh! A good comparison video for Orochi and Shin Orochi. | |
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| Scribe | Feb 23 2009, 11:38 PM Post #162 |
Sergeant
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yeah he was a letdown. i hope they revamp his moveset in Musou Orochi Z and give him new costumes and different dialogue from Orochi |
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| Jakecrd | Mar 7 2009, 07:51 PM Post #163 |
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When I use Orochi X, my attacks to the enemy was like the cavary charging thorugh. |
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| Lord Lu Bu | Mar 15 2009, 08:10 PM Post #164 |
Elite Soldier
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For me Shin Orochi is the strongest especially in story mode with bolt slay brave and might in his 4th weapon |
 Sig by Theoneknownas13 Are there no others?! Is there no one left to challenge me? Is this the end? Are there no more great battles for me to join? Argh! More! I still wish to wield my blade in battle! I do not care who! Come and face me! Come and face the great Lu Bu! | |
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| ling_ling | May 20 2009, 04:54 AM Post #165 |
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About what he wanted was what made his story interesting. He wanted to die, it's not like everyday you get a villain who actually wants to die and not rule to world. In truth, it is very vague in the game, but there is some spiritual/religious aspect on what made me like him a lot.  His mannerisms and the words he speaks during battles had me thinking about his actions and what he really intended for humanity. You see, in my mind, Orochi can be considered a Buddhist. Why? Well, his aim for himself is peace or inner peace, but also peace for humanity. What you give is what you get; the law of karma. Since Orochi gives death, he had it coming... The goal in most Buddhist schools is Nirvana, which is the salvation from suffering. Remember that he was to suffer eternal punishment because of the crimes he's done? But he knew he couldn't change them, so the only way to redeem himself was to be killed by human beings. As all of you know, in the Buddhist tradition, a Buddhist is forbidden to kill, which made me thought that might be the reason why he always sat at his castle waiting for a challenge. He doesn't want to fight unworthy people until they are worthy enough and work for the experience and earn the challenge. I know he condescends others, but a little negative motivation doesn't hurt. Which brings me to say, maybe even in his story, he never fought any of his own battles. Sure some say that's cowardice, but that's not the point. It was his army that did the fighting and he didn't care if his army messes up their own plans, he was actually, in my opinion, letting them do what they want, letting them have their freedom to act on their own free will... without judgment or discrimination on how he would win the battle -- I think that's kinda like compassion. The ending theme 'Salvation of Orochi' is a dead giveaway to me that he earned his deserved Nirvana. If anyone has a say in this or argument, I'm ready to support this thought.
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