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| Tweet Topic Started: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:22 am (2,631 Views) | |
| Ranmaru87 | Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:22 am Post #1 |
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We are talking about History about world, its better for us also to talk Indonesian History when happen from 3 to 14 AD. There is some Kingdom especially in Java which build tradition to Indonesian People even Majapahit can conquer Malaysia, Southern Philippines. Singhasari or Kediri (I forget...
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| ChrisX | Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:46 pm Post #2 |
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Gajah Mada is bad ass. Definitely the most bad ass Ancient Indonesian Hero. He's the reason why Majapahit can conquer Malaysia. Of course once he and the other great hero Hayam Wuruk passed away... Majapahit starts to fall apart. |
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| Shizu | Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:53 pm Post #3 |
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My favorite are Ken Arok, Gajah Mada, Kertanegara & Raden Wijaya. Ken Arok & Kertanegara (Singhasari Kingdom. East Java, Tumapel-Kediri) Ken Arok is kinda like Hideyoshi isn't it? But Ken Arok used a shortcut to get His power. I don't know, but I really love this Figure. Maybe because of His ambition, cunning & cocky attitude Dx Kertanegara. Hmm.. how do you explain Him, I love His courage on challenging Kubilai Khan, though It's pretty dumb. Gajah Mada - Raden Wijaya (Majapahit. East Java) Gajah Mada, just what NJB said. The greatest Hero ever. Loved His history, except for the last part about How He got 'fired' from His rank. His Palapa Oath, He swore not to eat any food with ANY spices before He can unite the Nusantara (Indonesia) Raden Wijaya, He made His enemies attack each other and then defeat Them both. Sweet isn't it? By Kingdom, My favorite is Singhasari.. Mainly because of the Very Very.. Interesting relationship of Them. Each of Them. Ken Arok, who was a thief, overall bad man, used a Cursed Kris made by Mpu Gandring, to kill Tunggul Ametung, an Akuwu of Tumapel Area. He married Ken Dedes who was Tunggul Ametung's wife & claimed Himself as the Akuwu. Later, He managed to get some Monks to help Him destroy King Kertajaya of Kediri (who's also the Conqueror of Tumapel) and then rule for some years (there're many arguments about how long did He rule) Ken Deded gave birth to Anusapati later on, who was Tunggul Ametung's son. and She also gave birth to Mahesa Wong Ateleng, Ken Arok's son. And Ken Arok's wife, who He married before He became a King, Ken Umang. Gave birth to Panji Tohjaya. and later on, they got all killed each other ._. Mpu Gandring cursed, "You, and Your Children, will be killed by that Kris" what's interesting is, Ken Dedes' father, cursed Tungggul Ametung when He kidnapped Her, He said like He'll be killed by a Kris because of Ken Dedes' beauty. ---- *phew* what a long post ._. I knew I should take the Social Class.
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| BlackKite | Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:03 pm Post #4 |
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I'm also for Hayam Wuruk & Gajah Mada. With them existing, it's like a golden age for the Majapahit. |
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| DrewTheDude-Dono | Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:37 pm Post #5 |
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VAN DAMME KNOWS NO WEAKNESS!
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Honestly, I don't know a whole lot on this era besides the basic timeline of events. Does anyone have any good sources for me to read up on this? |
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| Cai Hong | Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:20 am Post #6 |
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Well,about Indonesian history I like Singhasari's history (becoz it has a long story and there's a lot of killing,killing,and killing on there,suprisingly I can remebered the story line well in a history test ^ ^),Majapahit,Mataram,Islamic Mataram (the Javanese Kingdoms starts to deals with those VOC dudes,friend or foe...). (BTW,are you guys Indonesian? it's seems you all know Indonesian history well ) |
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| ChrisX | Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:40 am Post #7 |
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Duh, yes I am. Indonesian. Proud or not, that's another story. |
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| Cai Hong | Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:35 am Post #8 |
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@ Neo Juste Belmont : Well then,you've met another Indonesian in this forum! I'm from Indonesia too! :lol: Anyway, have you guys heard about Jayabaya's Prophecy? most of them are correct,no? he's a great King of Kediri who has an abillity to 'seek thru the future'. |
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| BlackKite | Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:01 am Post #9 |
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I'm from Indo too.
And about Jayabaya's prophecy, what I still remember is about the WW2 time, when the Japanese army occupied us and then not long after our country becomes independent. Are there any prophecies about the current era? It's been a long time since I last studied history in school... ^.^; |
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| Cai Hong | Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:58 am Post #10 |
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@ BlackKite: Hello! I'm glad I know another Indonesian in this forum!
Well, about another prophecy of Jayabaya,he also prophet the 1997 Reformation,Trikora,Ampera,G30S/PKI and such...but he also has a prophet that the Java Island will drowned into the sea,probably because Global Warming... Is there any other Indonesian History that you like too? |
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| BlackKite | Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:10 am Post #11 |
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Hmm... mainly about the Majapahit conquest and the kingdoms of Singasari and Demak. And also a bit of Samudra Pasai & Sriwijaya. |
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| Cai Hong | Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:02 am Post #12 |
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Do you have any favorite subject/people/battle from those Kingdoms? This time,I've been thinking about Jaka Tingkir and Fatahillah.They're both Sultan Trenggono's sons-in-law and also his most trusted retainers...anyone has an opinion? |
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| Kaizer Yamato | Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:46 pm Post #13 |
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Wow... is that true ? But considering he is death from years ago... maybe its just a coincidence eh ? I just know the Trikora & G30s PKI movement in Indonesia though I think its come from Soekarno era isn't it ? One of the great leader in the Asia from Indonesian ? |
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| ChrisX | Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:02 pm Post #14 |
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You better tell me if this is true or false. |
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| Ranmaru87 | Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:32 am Post #15 |
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oooooo......most of people who speaks are indonesian, including me.....in fact many people still don't know about Indonesian history, so we must promote this great history to all over the world because this history is not "defeat than other country history" |
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| Acta Non Verba | Fri Sep 5, 2008 9:14 am Post #16 |
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Ranmaru87, are you serious about discussing Indonesia from 3 to 14 AD? i thought that Indonesia was Civilized at 400 AD... do you mean 300 to 1400 AD? |
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| Ranmaru87 | Sat Sep 6, 2008 1:37 am Post #17 |
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Of course I am sure......begin with Kutai until end of Majapahit in 14 AD |
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| Ranmaru87 | Sat Sep 6, 2008 1:40 am Post #18 |
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Yeah u are right.....end of Majapahit in about 1400 AD so history begin at 300 AD to 1400 AD |
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| Akari Misaki | Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:18 am Post #19 |
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um excuse me... are we talking about Indonesian history or kingdom in Indonesia region...?? |
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| Ranmaru87 | Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:47 am Post #20 |
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kingdom....it also interested to be played |
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| Akari Misaki | Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:23 am Post #21 |
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wew thx ranmaru87... I'm a big fan of indonesian history (I cant understand why many high school student hate history lesson...) especially about kingdom in Indonesia region and history after the proclamation... my favourite kingdom was majapahit and sriwijaya... and dont forget about syailendra and sanjaya dynasty... they built borobudur for us... (new concept for dynasty warrior...?? XD XD ) |
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| Raiko Z | Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:55 pm Post #22 |
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oh man, i'm already bored with indonesian history. Honestly, I know Japanese and Chinese history better the Indonesian history....... |
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| Ranmaru87 | Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:39 am Post #23 |
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I am never bore to learn history.......especially Asian history, maybe you are bore because from elementary school we learn same history right? yeah this is Indonesian curriculum education |
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| Acta Non Verba | Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:11 am Post #24 |
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true. i even ask a favor to my history teacher to change the subject because of boredom....... |
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| Akari Misaki | Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:54 am Post #25 |
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yes we study about same history from elementary to high school... but it has a difference though... I have a good history teacher that make everybody in my class love history... when she retired, almost all of my classmate begin to hate history... ^^; |
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