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| Astus | Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:15 pm Post #226 |
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Nevermind that what you have posted is basically spam as you didn't elaborate as to why, but a double post at that. I see you have used the edit function in the second post, why you could not have used it in the first is beyond me. Also some of the way you worded your post could be classed as offensive with "lol" at the beginning. Would have done you a lot better if you hadn't posted at all. You have been warned and told numerous times stop spamming, but it appears that it has been to no avail. |
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| kuni_izumi | Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:11 pm Post #227 |
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I don't feel put off and I classify myself as bi-sexual or whatever the fancy term is for not considering sex (Gender IE: the socially implied norms, not genitalia, is important to me however, I like feminine people, sports and sweat don't do it for me). I don't feel put off by Zhang He, but then I've ALWAYS loved him from his first downhill charge like falling blossoms. He was awesome right off for having Vega's weapon as far as I was concerned and just gets better (mostly, I prefer Zhang He from 4 and 6 to Zhang He from 5). So I'm not put off but I will, honestly, slash anyone I can reasonably justify. Hetero, gays, lesbians...it doesn't matter to me. SO DW (and SW for that matter) is full of beautiful RP fodder and a delicious range of men and women (Sun Quan's makeover in 6 FTW! He's so INTERESTING now). |
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| foomin | Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:58 pm Post #228 |
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gangsta rap, Grand Theft Auto, and prime-time TV, influence children as well, but lots of people champion those like they were classical literature. so if you're trying to make a point, you've failed. homosexuality is generally genetic, and i PROMISE you, i'd really rather not deal with all the hate and discrimination, but evolution or God or whatever you believe in has allowed homosexuality to exist in living creatures for millions of years, so it cannot be all that bad. by the by, do you know how many species of animals practice homosexual behavior? more than 1500, from worms to elephants. |
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| kuni_izumi | Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:01 pm Post #229 |
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Well when you're hung like that it seems a shame not to use it as often as possible. Side note: It's interesting to consider so many do engage in homosexual activity when it's been studied and only humans and dolphins (and maybe one more I've heard?) have sex for pleasure, not to procreate. o_O Weird huh? |
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| foomin | Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:22 pm Post #230 |
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LOL! "that's what he said last night" here's a nice little article from Wiki, that's not too full of technical terms and science speak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior |
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| bain_nick | Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:25 pm Post #231 |
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Although worms and snails change their sex if need be. 'Divine Being of your own Religion' I know some useless information. Was just wondering to the gay guys here. Do you guys want (or have) kids? |
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| kuni_izumi | Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:29 pm Post #232 |
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Sea slugs can change their sex at will from male to female, both to neither! They can, literally go ***k themselves. They also have massive writhing orgies that last either hours or days, I forget...but then apparently they don't do it for fun, so I guess it's wasted on them. |
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| foomin | Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:36 pm Post #233 |
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no, i've never wanted children, the world is an evil place, and i know i am a vengeful person when it comes to those close to me from experience, my 7 year old niece(who i basically raised from infancy) was molested by my 17 year old step-brother when i was 25. i won't talk about what i did, ever. so, no. but i do have many children in my life who i adore. the two daughters(6 &10) of my sometime employers(i do all sorts of things with them, we are going to make individualized Valentine's for all their friends next week), and the grandson(4) of one of my best friends, he loves coming to my house because i always have colours, markers and craft stuff and help him make thing for his NaNa(my friend) and his dad. and of course my dog, who i treat like a child. |
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| BuddHA0991 | Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:50 pm Post #234 |
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*Facepalm* Im straight, and I say love is love...cept with animals or something...but this opinion I quoted.....I dont even have a response to that |
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| Miho | Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:04 am Post #235 |
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I'm dying to have children It's been a life long dream of mine, to have my own little family. I'd prefer to have a surogate mother though, then adopt. I'd love to have a child which I was blood related too. Although I know i'd love an adopted child just as much. I've never wanted a high flying career as a Doctor or Lawyer, it's never been an ambition. My ambitions in life is to be happy, and have a family. I guess it seems a bit sterotypical, but I long to be a stay at home mum. I'd want to have a small, part time job in a small shop or cafe, something like that, just so I wasn't broken away from the world. But ultimately I just want to raise my children, while the huaband goes out to work Harrr~ I'd probably have a baby tomorrow if I could. But i'm also looking forward to just dating a guy, building a life together, and then having children. I'm very maternal by nature, so I think i'd make quite a good parent, if a bit over-protective. >_<
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| Greenzaku | Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:14 am Post #236 |
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kuni: Given that history has shown that Takeda Shingen is definitely bisexual, and there is a small amount of evidence for Uesugi Kenshin being gay, I'm actually in the midst of writing a mind0shattering crack fanfic pairing those two. I like slash too; and make a hobby out of warping people's minds with strange couples. Zhang He is funny rather than offensive to me, its not really explicitly mentioned he's gay in any case. bain_nick: Maybe. Still thinking about it, but I'd really wish I could adopt. |
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| Korin | Sat Feb 7, 2009 6:27 pm Post #237 |
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No, it's not a bad thing to learn. And love is love even with animals. And I do have a response to Fedric 555's post. Homosexuality is not a bad thing to learn at all. That's retarded to even say/think that. It's completely natural, and it depends on the person, they can't help their homosexual. You anti-homosexuals, just, need to learn to live with it.
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| DrewTheDude-Dono | Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:58 pm Post #238 |
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To put this more intellectually, Sea slugs{which I'd assume is a Nudibranch} are what are called hermaphrodites and they reproduce asexually. Despite what Bain Nick says, they don't "**** themselves." They create offspring's through a process known as asexual reproduction in that no sexual activity is involved and meiosis, ploidy reduction, and fertilization does not occur. The way asexual reproduction occurs varies {Although most non-plant organisms use Binary fission{replication of DNA}}, but for each process sexual activity is exempt.
It's really hard to say that it's "generally genetic." If you take into account the numerous debates about that subject and how humans have shown to be more psychological effected by sociology rather than genetics as opposed to those of other species, you can't really say that as a definite fact. While I believe that biology does have some effect in this case in terms of people's sexual activity and thought, I believe that homosexuality is more psychological than biological as a result human's having a much more complex and advanced mind in comparison to other species.
I mostly don't want them simply because I hate kids. I really couldn't be bothered with the responsibility needed to take care of them.
Not exactly... The concept of love is completely psychological and something which comes from humans. While one can argue that animals have emotions and human-like psychologies, animals are unarguably going to act more out of instinct than thought. In the case of sex, animals don't have any relationships or anything of that sort to perform these actions. They just do it... They find a mate and have sex. Plain and simple. There's no complex or deep emotions to it when it comes to animals. It just occurs naturally. Edited by DrewTheDude-Dono, Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:01 am.
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| AdventGreatness | Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:57 am Post #239 |
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I'm fine with it, I support Homosexuality. I don't get why many people are against, that's why i see some religion as corrupt. |
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| foomin | Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:38 pm Post #240 |
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i speak from a unique point of view on this point. at least six generations, from children to adults have exihibited either bisexual or homosexual behaviors. some have managed to hide them and lead proscribed lives, some of us have'nt. my mother had 9 stepbrothers, only 2 of whom were married(they were also adults when she was a young teen). of the 7 others, two were as openly gay as you could be in rural Oklahoma in the 1930's with "menfriends", two left OK. one for New York to become a singer/actor the other for California to be a writer, they both returned occasionally with both men and women in tow. and sadly the last and youngest committed suicide after having been caught with a black man and severely beaten by people he knew. my own father exhibited signs/mannerisims that are associated with gay men, but he apparently controlled his by joining the army and living a very rigid life. my oldest brother was married 7 times and fathered 6 children, yet that did not stop him from pursuing me for a few years, and later in life accepting his bisexuality and becoming a full on crossdresser. my middle brother is very conservative and has been with his wife since high-school(she is essentially my sister). about 15 years ago during his midlife crisis, he came to me and wanted to talk about all his hidden feelings about men...he travels with work and is often gone for weeks at a time, and had managed to meet up with guys and realized he was probably gay. our talking about it did not appear to settle much. he took to drinking and had several dangerous accidents. also one Christmas when we were home he made a not so subtle pass at my current BF and myself while he was drunk. now i think he's on firmer ground due to his own efforts, which i am glad of, he's my only family left. and my niece, the above brother's daughter is a lesbian, and then of course theres me. so you can see how i can say "generally", this is only MY family story, there are so many more out there. and i never once advocated that homosexuality was entirely genetic, only that it most certainly runs in families. society and psychology of course play their roles as well. |
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| starwolf931 | Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:22 pm Post #241 |
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I think being gay is mental disease and it should be treated as that. What if I fall in love on animal like pig and **** her it is ok? And gay people shuld have kids becaouse they make bad exsample it is not natural to be gay. If it is genetic it means that someone in your family is gay your dad is gay or maybe grandfather. Da bog da svi pocrkali pedercine jedne |
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| FOX | Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:53 pm Post #242 |
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Yes it is a mental disease but for the fact of are gay couples better parents then str8 well for me it depens. My toughs are that gay parens are good if they let there offsprings decide on there sexuality and not to guide them in any form(Im more ok for the female couples the men couples cuz it would be kinda strange to grow up whit 2 fathers) but there is no supstitute for the tradicional Mother and Father couple. Study's haves show'n that(i dont know the % neither will i get into that) in america that lesbian parents give better love to there children then most of the str8 parents but the main reson for that is cuz americans are so F... up(teenage pregnency,divorses after a month of merige) I dont know realy but i do know that i dont like feminized homo guys or macho girls. If you have different visual atractiones then its kinda ok but dont brake the basic morals of the gender. |
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| starwolf931 | Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:22 pm Post #243 |
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Child must have both parents Mother becouse of love and Father becouse of security what will mother do when her child get bullied. And if gay is OK what would happend if whole world become gay whole human race would disapear. And FOX about that studys TV lie you know that in 5 years they might say that children who have gay(male) parents are beter raised. And about sexuality nature decided that when you where born that is the reason you have **** and girls have pussy. |
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| Miho | Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:39 pm Post #244 |
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The above three posts are just HILARIOUS. Firstly, homosexuality isn't a 'mental disease.' It's just who you are. People say about the way someone is brought up effects their sexuality, well I don't agree. I was brought up in a very, what you would call 'normal' home. There was no pressure to love football, and neither was their pressure to love make up and barbies. I didn't CHOOSE to be gay, I just am. I've known it for as long as I can remember. Gay parents can make just as good parents as ANY straight couple, and in a lot of circumstances probably much better parents. No gay couple would 'force' their child to be gay. You could say the same about straight couples, if that were true. Any good and decent parents would love their child no matter what. I think gay couples would actually appreciate a child much more then straight couples, in a lot of circumstances. Just because a child has two fathers, doesn't mean it won't be mothered. I myself am very maternal, so would act as a mother figure for a child. You're passing over into sexist remarks when you say a woman could do nothing if her child was bullied, what utter bullsh!t. Women are just as capable of helping a child in such situations as any man. As a matter of fact, women would probably be better at it. Generally women are more diplomatic (I said generally, not always), and can solve situations without the use of violence or threats. And, what makes you think the human race would disappear if the world was gay? Women would still be able to reproduce, men would still be able to ejaculate. It's a ridiculous comment to make. If the world really ever did turn gay, then the human race would still go on. You don't have to have sex with a woman to make them pregnant. What it comes down too is being a close minded fool, I’m afraid. Homosexual people are hurting no one by being gay. Who are YOU to say it's wrong? Who are YOU to say I have a mental disease? Are you a doctor or psychologist? I think not. You're entitled to your opinions yes, but if they're so cruel, close minded, stupid and foolish then it's best you keep them to yourselves. Neither of you can even literate yourselves properly, learn to spell. starwolf's attitude is just disgustingly crude. Come back when you know what you're talking about, and have a stable head on your shoulders. In my eyes, it's not homosexuals who have a 'mental disease', it's people like you, who can't embrace and accept differences, that has something wrong in the head. |
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| starwolf931 | Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:06 pm Post #245 |
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Slusaj supku jedan ja svoj jezik pise savrseno.I spell my language corectly and I dont have time to waste on checking are my englis words are spelled corectly.(And who are you to tell me my words are not spelled corectly are you my teacher. I hate people who tell hey that word is not spelled that way)
I waited for someone to say that.Yes womens would be able to reproduce but why would they need men.Basic purpose of every living being is to reproduce if it dosent reproduce it disapears and becouse males are not able to reproduce they would not need to excist .
What can women do when her girl get raped by some maniac from park(call police those guys can be bought for low money at least where I live). If it is normal for you to child to call you mother and for you to behaive as one then you are not all OK. Yes you did Yes people should be free minded but there are limits. Edited by starwolf931, Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:11 pm.
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| T.e.n | Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:25 pm Post #246 |
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Modhat: If you're attempting to make a clear point in English, then you should make sure that your English is as clear and correct as possible. If you're not a native English speaker, then I empathize as such - making a point in a language that isn't your primary language can be difficult. However, you were the one who chose to engage in a debate that's being held in English. Thus, in order for your arguments to be taken seriously or have any validity, you have to 'waste the time' and check if your words are spelt correctly. No more of this, please. If you're going to engage in this debate, then you must do as such. |
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| Godlikephoenix | Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:35 pm Post #247 |
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Ok, im going to stop this before it get out of hand. Starwolf...and you too Miho, you need to not be attacking each other like that, even if you know your opinions are completely different, which I can quite obviously see...now I dont agree at all with starwolf's opinion or viewpoint, but that doesnt mean im going to attack him...you both just need to settle down. ![]()
ok...where you live, it might be a bit thougher to get the authorities on your side...but what could a man do in that situation? go down and try and beat the crap out of the guy? although I would understand why he would do it...but that is by no means the right way to go about it. To be honest, I think even in the current day, gay parents would be more loving to a child than straight parents, for numerous reasons...but I bet whether I say them or not, your going to be coming back at me with something 'special' |
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| Burning Skulls | Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:39 pm Post #248 |
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I'm just going to go down with Starwolf's quotes for Miho's reponses since I have issues quoting each one alone. ![]() 1) Sperm is needed a little bit to produce, even if they could just save some in sperm banks in wouldn't last forever. And its not like the male gender would just die off. 2) Whether or not your straight or gay, man or woman, it doesn't change how you'd react if you loved your child. If they're raped you'd protect them and it doesn't matter if your calling the police. That's still doing something. Most people wouldn't just leave their kid alone in a park to be raped in the first place. 3) If it was a gay parent, I doubt they'd call them mom. And just because your straight or gay, it doesn't change how you'd care for your child. A gay guy could do as much as a mother could do, a lesbian as much as a father could do and the other way around. Guys can be motherly and girls can be fatherly. What do you think parents try to do if their spouse dies? They try to fill they're spot and they do their best at it which is all that matters. 4) Did you choose to be straight? It just happened that way and either way there shouldn't be limitations. It's ridiculous that gay marriage is illegal as love is love, it doesn't matter either way. Straight people have just as many if not more problems as homosexuals. Its just the problems that society puts upon them. EDIT: Oops. Sorry, GLP. Hope I didn't make it continue a lot.
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| lmay19 | Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:18 am Post #249 |
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nope, Mihos right. There's no way in hell people could truly choose their sexuality. I can't help it that I get HARD when I see a fine piece of azz & tits. People can choose who they want to be with, but they can never change their sexuality. lying and proclaiming 'I'M GAY STARTING NOW' or 'U TURNED ME STR8' is just fake. |
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| Korin | Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:28 am Post #250 |
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**** THAT, It's ******, you ****er. |
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It's been a life long dream of mine, to have my own little family. I'd prefer to have a surogate mother though, then adopt. I'd love to have a child which I was blood related too. Although I know i'd love an adopted child just as much.
But i'm also looking forward to just dating a guy, building a life together, and then having children. I'm very maternal by nature, so I think i'd make quite a good parent, if a bit over-protective. >_<
And love is love even with animals. And I do have a response to Fedric 555's post. Homosexuality is not a bad thing to learn at all. That's retarded to even say/think that. It's completely natural, and it depends on the person, they can't help their homosexual. You anti-homosexuals, just, need to learn to live with it.





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