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| FOX | Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:08 pm Post #276 |
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No prob foomin sry of you were offended i just wanted to shorten the word. Just to state that i dont have a god cuz i dont belive in religion but thats another story... Well i gues we bored every 1 whit our discutions gues its time to find another topic i hope we meet there whit opositive thoughs again. |
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| kuni_izumi | Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:11 pm Post #277 |
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WAIT WAIT WAIT You don't believe in RELIGION but AIDS is GOD'S PUNISHMENT TO GAYS. Do you have any idea what a hypocrite you are for saying that?! You can't condemn people or blame them for something because of God's will and NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. I'm sorry but that just doesn't WORK sweetheart. You can't possibly be taken seriously on anything anymore. I don't have time to waste with you anymore, I have to get back to my Marketing homework. |
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| BuddHA0991 | Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:25 pm Post #278 |
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Oh lord, the amount of ignorance in this topic on both sides is extremely crazy and...sigh, why cant people just accept each other and thats that? |
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| kuni_izumi | Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:27 pm Post #279 |
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Please great Buddha who spreads peace love and a really big statues with cute tummies, show us the way of peace and tolerance, because if you've got a cure all I'd LOVE to hear it. |
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| BuddHA0991 | Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:29 pm Post #280 |
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There is no cure all, and thats the point...lol I should have just not said anything Oh, and my screen name has nothing to do with my religion...which is none. Edited by BuddHA0991, Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:34 pm.
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| SnowMan | Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:44 am Post #281 |
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I must say, I think this is one of the most intelligent statements I've ever heard regarding this issue and I agree with it completely. ------- I've never posted in this thread, but I'll just throw my broken record opinion into the ring. I fully support gay people/transgendered people. I don't see any reason to hate someone because of something that they had no part in choosing. That's like saying "he's deaf and I hate deaf people." And even if someone chose to be gay, who cares? I also never got those people who will hear a gay person say that he/she was born gay and say "No you weren't, you're lying. You chose to be gay." Why can't we all just accept each other? Edited by SnowMan, Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:46 am.
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| Godlikephoenix | Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:00 am Post #282 |
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If I have to say this one more time, people are going to be getting warnings. Do not insult other people just because of their opinions, whether you agree with them or not...there are ways to communicate your opinion and dislike of another's opinion without insulting and starting up flaming sessions, so keep things civil, and on the topic at hand [/mod rant] [\own opinion] Now...I am in no way agreeing with the statement that being homosexual is a mental disease, I find that to be quite insulting towards to gay community(even though im not part of that community) and although that is your opinion, and I must respect that, I in no way agree with it ![]() To be honest, who really gives a sh!t who started AIDS...the only discussion that should come out of that topic should be how to prevent it, and how it can be cured, which would be through education and further research into a cure. Even if it originated from homosexuals (I'm definitely not saying that it did) that doesn't really matter anymore, thats in the past, so what good would come from blaming certain people for something like that? answer me that! |
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| Master Sima Yi | Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:55 am Post #283 |
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Oh my god. This is all so ignorant. I read things that don't make any sense. If you guys can't say anything reasonable than you don't belong here. FOX compared homosexuality with having sex with animals. Yep, it is the exact same thing. Homosexuals are animals. Sure. And straight people are robots. And that other guy said: why aren't there any black sientist who invented somethings? Black people have long been not accepted in America and Europe. Most inventions were then done by white people and perfected by white people. After they got accepted, black people invented much things. You just don't know any. Just accept people. We are all the same. It's not fair to say: you are gay, we don't like you. What if the roles are turned. Figure gay people being in the position of straight people and otherwise. Take a long look at yourselfs. |
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| FOX | Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:56 pm Post #284 |
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I dont believe in god but i do believe in nature and basic human morals and my passive action is unacepting anything that is breaking those human morals Its not punishing only Homosexual ppl but str8 ppl also because of bisexual ppl who transferd those deseases.
I and alot of other ppl on this world who dont like to always be carefull about whit who do we have sex care. Also about the things that hapen in the past should not be forgoten and ppl should learn from history and there mistakes(that is the main reason why history is taugh in schools)
Yes i did read my previus posts to understand why i brouth that up. Ok il save you the time it was because this guy said
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| T.e.n | Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:59 pm Post #285 |
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What you haven't defined is what you believe to be an inherent standard of human morality that conclusively determines anything-but-heteronormative-behaviour as immoral. And since you're the one saying as such; the burden of proof is on your shoulders.
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| kuni_izumi | Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:09 pm Post #286 |
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T.e.n.: You know I really think this thread should be closed for the same reasons the 'What do you think of America' thread was closed. If nothing, it's MORE fodder for flaming and arguing. I agree with why the mods chose to close the other thread, but I think closing that thread and leaving this one open shows inconsistency in the application and enforcement of forum conduct rules. I feel we either need to discuss everything (homosexuality, feelings on the USA and every other country, feelings about different ethnicity of people and fetishes etc.) or nothing at all controversial. Off topic I know, but I've said about all I can here without repeating myself like a lame donkey. |
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| FOX | Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:15 pm Post #287 |
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You mean what is moral? The 10th comands that moses brouth are the basic morals of life. About the rest i cant say anything about that because the human mind works in diferent ways(some work in sick way's,like some instane ppl think killing is normal or feel noting after doing so).
I am to lazzy to use a dictionary so i cant understand this if its not that important then you dont need to anwser me.
I just seen that the america topic was closed and i totaly agree whit you on this,either we should be allowed to discuss everything or noting at all.Admins that was not nice of you closing that topic because your from that country and dont like ppl talking bad things about your country...
This was probably intended for me so the only come back that i can give is (and i always give this come back to ppl when they compare me whit a animal) not a donkey(btw canaries repeat there words donkey's just hoowl nja nja).l Edited by FOX, Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:24 pm.
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| kuni_izumi | Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:34 pm Post #288 |
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Fox: I was talking about myself. A 'braying donkey' is someone who repeats the same points over and over again, which we've BOTH been doing, but I really did mean myself. I've got schoolwork to do and no time to endlessly rewrite the same thing. Second: You've said you're not religious. Basing morals off of the ten-commandments supposedly handed down BY GOD to Moses is being hypocritical. hyp·o·crit·i·cal (hĭp'ə-krĭt'ĭ-kəl) adj. 1. Characterized by hypocrisy: hypocritical praise. hyp⋅o⋅crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ [hip-uh-krit] –noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. 2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements. Have you heard of talking out of both sides of your mouth? It's the same idea. You cannot argue something from a religious stance and then say that you are not religious. It makes you NOT CREDIBLE to argue that way. I've included these definitions to help you understand why I'm frustrated with the way you debate. Third: If you are GOING to debate here, and again, I applaud you for doing so in a language that is difficult for you, you can not be LAZY about it. If you don't understand things it's incredibly RUDE to discount them and ignore the person who took the time to share their opinions. If you're going to engage in a debate, engage to the FULLEST of your abilities. It's only polite. You should never just be LAZY and not take the time to look it up. If you don't understand, it is perfectly alright to ask someone to clarify what they meant, but remember you're being very taxing on their time. Please, please, PLEASE, try to follow basic debate manners. |
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| FOX | Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:48 pm Post #289 |
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Im lazy cuz i got bored of this topic and let me tell you that if you were to show me a document writen in english i would be able to translate most if not all of it but most importantly i would get the point it is trying to make and i understud all the important points your made so dont worry about that.
Yes i mentioned god but to make my point (yes i may have confused you whit it after i said i dont belive in him) i also mention in that sentence nature az the primary thing that ppl came from and bla bla bla im done here
No realy i dont have anything to say on this topic anymore so stop quoting me just ignore my post and thats that Edited by FOX, Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:51 pm.
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| The Outsider | Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:49 pm Post #290 |
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You know what comes to my attention. I wonder why gay guys mostly seem to like the female characters mostly in games. I hope i'm not offending anyone, just an observation. I have a gay friend and he always likes the women, always. Gay guys obviously don't find them attractive, so it must be something else. Maybe they can relate to girls more, I don't know, I'm just really puzzled by that one. I know it's not for everyone, but most of them do like the girls .
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| Occult | Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:06 pm Post #291 |
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HAHA I've thought about this myself! I tend to love female characters more myself and I'm certainly not gay (Though im not a good example of heterosexuality either) ![]() I find the dominant female characters assertive and on par with what straight guys might consider the "more powerful/useful/adept male characters". I suppose its somewhat a turn on when a woman can hold her own against a guy... but not in a pervy way of course O_o lol In the case of the reason gay men would like female characters, I can only speculate... |
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| Insominas wake | Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:54 pm Post #292 |
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love is love
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| foomin | Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:06 pm Post #293 |
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i realize i may not be the representative slice of the "gay pie", but yeah, i was attracted to gaming because in most cases it appeared that male and female characters were on the same level(sometimes the women were stronger/better/faster). i supose you could say it's an analogy for a better way. equality for all, some more talented at one thing, other better at others. gay/possibly gay videogame characters are rare, and even Zhang He's skewed wackiness gives me hope that sometime in the future somebody will come up with an awesome character with great abilities who bands together with his/her straight/black/Asian/white/WHOEVER friends and make a group that fight in support of each other and the world/goals. many of you know i always support the female or misfit characters, because maybe one kid will see it's o.k. or cool to be different, BUT i like others just as well~Cao Ren-for his thoughtful staunch loyalties, Xu Huang for his dedication to his craft, Huang Zhong for for fighting with age, not against it...there's more, but my points made. if there was less hate and finger pointing perhaps groups could band together and find ways to combat racism, find a cure for a disease that should've been cured years ago, allow all folks regardless of the sexuality, gender, race, place in the world to make a difference. all it takes is a few of you to drop your prejudices and give some chances, to make a start. i've never felt my sexuality had any bearing here on this community, most folks here know i'm gay, but it never seemed to be an issue. after the last two days of reading the hate-filled misconceptions and propaganda that have been allowed to remain on these pages, i need to give this serious consideration, however, i don't know if i can stay here. a community for every warrior indeed. |
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| Miho | Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:45 pm Post #294 |
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Foomin hunny, don't let just two silly people ruin your time here at KW. Neither of them are worth it. There's many things I could pick apart in FOX's posts, but i'm not going to bother. It's more than obvious there's no point, and i've had enough experience of bashing my head against a brick wall over the years. I'll just reply to the female character subject.I myself love female characters XD But I love the sterotypically, cute, anime girl like types.(Xiao Qiao, Da Qiao, Talim, Amy, other loli characters...) I can't really explain why, but I just love playing as the girls much more (As Occult knows too well LOL) I am much more intune with my female side, probably even more so than my male in most cases, though i'd never have a sex change mind you. I like my male body, but I'm just very feminine. I guess playing as girls in games is a way to express that side of me even more.The only thing I want to say, to do with religion and homosexuality is that there are actually FAR more cases in which Hetrosexuality is cast in a bad light in the bible. The only story religious people use is Sodam and Gomorrah, which isn't even about Homosexuality. You wouldn't get a whole village of gay men, it's utter rubbish. Sodam and Gomorrah is a city of violent thugs, that's it. But anyway, there are many rape stories in the bible, with men raping women. What does that say about Hetrosexuality..? |
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| T.e.n | Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:54 pm Post #295 |
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Modhat: In light of recent events; I've decided to add both FOX and starwolf931 to the Debate Blacklist (located here). While both members initially conveyed what appeared to be an honest dialogue, they have both repeatedly communicated that they are not willing to follow standard debate guidelines or demonstrate a willingness to do research and back up any statements they may have made. Furthermore, there was a clear lack of sensitivity in even attempting to respect the notion that people here are of a sexual minority and made no attempt to be considerate in such. As of such, they've clearly disrupted what could have been a continued open dialogue that might have allowed for education on both sides of the debate. Thusly, they've been blacklisted. Again - I'm sorry for any sort of stress or worry this recent exchange may have caused. If you have any other concerns over such; please feel free to PM me and I'll reply as promptly as I'm able. EDIT: I'm sorry for the recent edit; but there is a bit more information to be communicated. Posts such as this are not acceptable and are considered spam. Remember - contribute posts that have a substantial amount of content. As well - remember that simply because a person does not share one's viewpoint, does not mean that's justification for insults or derogatory comments as such. As such, LightShadow has been blacklisted for 2 days as well. Please, continue on. |
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| SnowMan | Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:21 pm Post #296 |
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EDIT: Bah, never mind. Lol, you edited the thread while I was posting this.
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| Godlikephoenix | Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:56 am Post #297 |
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To be honest, I dont care what anyone thinks about any country, thats their opinion, I was the one who closed that thread, so dont go after the admins, and im not from the USA, so dont play that card, Im from Australia, and actually, less than half of the staff members are from the USA...not one of the Admins are from the USA either. @Miho: lol...Im a bit like that at times...just liking the female characters much more than the males...I think its just far more interesting...woop, off topic
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| Kitsune | Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:50 am Post #298 |
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-facepalm- The past few pages were really kind of messed up,in my honest opinion (no offense to anyone). It's the kind of responses which I would expect from most people about why homosexuality is wrong. I agree with Master Sima Yi; we are all the same,and there's nothing wrong with being homosexual.@*Burning* Devil Scholar: I have a homosexual friend who likes the female characters more too. An example would be SW; when I asked him about his favourite characters in the game,the list was all female characters. |
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| starwolf931, | Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:19 pm Post #299 |
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1)If you dont care OR EVEN LIVE IN AMERICA why did you colsed that topic(I hate people"It dosent insult me.But I think this insults someone so I am going to ban you.") 2)I didnt send any PM to admins I send it to you. ALSO I wil now go with the rest of you I am gay tonight I am going to have sex with 6 men.(Oh the joy) I so ****ing love homosexsualty that I am going to BAN ,Insult, Send to hell all people who say GAY is NOT ok. also T.E.N "that might have allowed for education on both sides of the debate" U=R*I, Dolphins, along with whales and porpoises, are descendants of terrestrial mammals, most likely of the Artiodactyl order. The ancestors of the modern day dolphins entered the water roughly fifty million years ago, in the Eocene epoch. Penguins (order Sphenisciformes, family Spheniscidae) are a group of aquatic, flightless birds living almost exclusively in the Southern Hemisphere. Highly adapted for life in the water, penguins have countershaded dark and white plumage, and their wings have become flippers. Most penguins feed on krill, fish, squid, and other forms of sealife caught while swimming underwater. They spend about half of their life on land and half in the oceans. Here I have educated you about something |
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Aren't you on the black list starwolf... First of all why is it called black list. What does that suppose to mean. Using *Black* huh. I am offended by it so does that mean the person who named it *black* list* is going to get banned. Seriously though, the mod ban someone because foomin or others said *I am offended by your comment*... Foomin says that all the time. People are intitled to their opinion. If you don't like it then don't post back and create unnecessary arguments and flame war. Just because someone says *I am offended by your comment* or something like that they get banned. LOL... (sorry foomin I used you as an example but I couldn't think of anyone else...) I haven't read everyone's post so i may be wrong. But what I have seen lately makes me wonder why the mod still keeps this thread open. I blame T.e.n Anyways I don't think I want to get involved in this, people's post was really funny though...
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I'll just reply to the female character subject.
LOL) I am much more intune with my female side, probably even more so than my male in most cases, though i'd never have a sex change mind you. I like my male body, but I'm just very feminine. I guess playing as girls in games is a way to express that side of me even more.
Anyways I don't think I want to get involved in this, people's post was really funny though...

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