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Homosexuality
Topic Started: Sat May 24, 2008 6:10 am (11,343 Views)
Han Hyuga
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It disgusts me the way that some people think that homesexuality is "wrong" or sick in some way. It's natural, and it's not like being gay hurts anyone or causes any problems so why hate on them?

I know some gay or bisexual people, really nice and everything but they find it hard to be accepted because they're not straight. I hope i'm not the only person who thinks that shouldn't be the case.

I think it's very possible for two people of the same sex to truly love each other. I mean, there's no set gene in a man's mind that makes them only be able to properly love women, regardless of sexual preference, and vice versa for women.

Gay rights.
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Mei Ling
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While I fully support those in the gay community, is it wrong and sinful of me to not really like transgendered people? I'm not one who likes drag queens, so does that make me a hypocrite?
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Han Hyuga
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Mei Ling
Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:23 pm
While I fully support those in the gay community, is it wrong and sinful of me to not really like transgendered people? I'm not one who likes drag queens, so does that make me a hypocrite?
Well, I think it depends on what way you dislike them? I mean do you just simply dislike the way they look? Or do you think that there's a definitive line between male and female standards that just shouldn't be crossed? Men wear men's clothes and women wear women's clothes and that's that?

If you just think they look a bit horrible then that's just opinion and it's no different to thinking someone looks ugly or disliking a certain fashion. I think it just depends if you agree with the principle or not. I mean personally I don't have a problem with drag-queens or cross-dresser, whatever you wanna call them. I'm actually a very unjudgemental person I accept people's decisions no matter how crazy they might seem to other people...
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jamesbuc
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Transgender im touch and go on. The only Transvestite ive met was a harping queen on a man who drove me to near insanity.
Now I know that he doesnt represent the whole of the group but doesnt stop me from directly relating which is a shame.
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Yuan Benchu
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As far as I'm concerned, I think people are entitled to like whoever they want. I just feel that if people want to get up to stuff, they can do it in the privacy of their own homes. I would not want my child walking along, and then bump into two men kissing eachother, but for that matter, I think straight couples should also try to keep everything between themselves.

As far as not wanting my child to see two men kissing, that can be related to people not wanting their children to mix with durg users or criminals. Not that what they are doing is wrong, just that some people like different things, and I think people whether gay or straight should be respectful of that and keep most things private and not public for everyone to see.
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Edited by zacattack214, Tue Feb 3, 2009 4:12 am.
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judge
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I'm fine with it.... even with gay marriage, but i don't like things such as kissing in public places. But i mean it for both groups- bi and hetero.

Do it at home and it's your thing, so why should i vote against it? Actually it's a bit natural for mankind.
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I find it weird that homosexuality has been present since ancient times, and was widely accepted then, but only now it has become a sin to some groups. Pretty much all ancient and even medieval societies that I have done work on, has displayed some aspect of homosexuality in some form or another, and thats why I find it strange that only now in this modern day, has it become a bad thing -_-
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:21 am
I find it weird that homosexuality has been present since ancient times, and was widely accepted then, but only now it has become a sin to some groups. Pretty much all ancient and even medieval societies that I have done work on, has displayed some aspect of homosexuality in some form or another, and thats why I find it strange that only now in this modern day, has it become a bad thing -_-
Actually your a bit wrong there. Not just now where the century we live in, several areas a few years back never accepted homosexuality or acknowledged it. However it was used towards other men (In groups) in a rape act too shame your man pride or make you feel like dirt. Basically groups of men would get together and 'rape' another. Rather not get into details, pretty graphic stuff really. But in truth in the past people were agains't two men or two females being together. (I believe it was in the Roman years (?) Not sure anymore.) But acts of Homosexuality were performed.

In my point of view I am fine with the same genders going at it, I never had in issue with it. Also adding in my favorite uncle is gay. So yeah, I'm alright with it.
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judge
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:37 am
Actually your a bit wrong there. Not just now where the century we live in, several areas a few years back never accepted homosexuality or acknowledged it. However it was used towards other men (In groups) in a rape act too shame your man pride or make you feel like dirt. Basically groups of men would get together and 'rape' another. Rather not get into details, pretty graphic stuff really. But in truth in the past people were agains't two men or two females being together. (I believe it was in the Roman years (?) Not sure anymore.) But acts of Homosexuality were performed.

In my point of view I am fine with the same genders going at it, I never had in issue with it. Also adding in my favorite uncle is gay. So yeah, I'm alright with it.
yeah, you're right. Homosexuality was really performed in Roman era. I must say i know one man who is gay and he is so cute and we understand each other well. We can speak whole day....he has fine character and who cares about his s.orientation.
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About Homosexuality being accepted in ancient years.
It was a common practice in Ancient Greece and even Ancient Rome.
It was condoned and it was the norm for a lot of people (well basically bisexuality moreso)
However with the coming of Christianity it was made taboo and from then on it's history ;P

The whole thing is a tad more complicated but that's the basic overview.
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judge
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EskiMoe
Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:27 am
About Homosexuality being accepted in ancient years.
It was a common practice in Ancient Greece and even Ancient Rome.
It was condoned and it was the norm for a lot of people (well basically bisexuality moreso)
However with the coming of Christianity it was made taboo and from then on it's history ;P

The whole thing is a tad more complicated but that's the basic overview.
Exactly. I have similar point of view.
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Mei Ling
Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:23 pm
While I fully support those in the gay community, is it wrong and sinful of me to not really like transgendered people? I'm not one who likes drag queens, so does that make me a hypocrite?
No, it's not wrong for you to not 'really' like them. If everyone has a right to be whatever they want then you are entitled to find something uncomfortable yourself, so long as nobody gets hurt because of it physically or perhaps mentally (e.g. made to feel beneath you) and keep your opinions to yourself then everything is ok :D .
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well, now that the Pope has aligned homosexuality with global warming and the environmental decline, i think i'll take this time to point out that he has TOO much glitter on his robes, breaths too much air, and his hat takes up too much space. an equally ridiculous statement to his. how in heaven's name does the Catholic church allow such morons to rise so high in their ranks. oh...well, there IS George Bush to add to that "idiots in power" list....
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Cao David
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I choice love is love to be honest if a Man or Woman would be happier with another man or woman married its better then have a straight couple married, but hating eachother <_<....
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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Well the problem is that...how should I say this...

Iīm all for it, like anyone who is open minded and informs himself a bit about the world, but I still have this weird feeling when I see a man kissing another man(or the other way).

And I can see the sudden change of peoples eyes around those two and of course the change of the children.

I, for myself, was taught that a man loves a women and a women loves a man. But in just one split second, that is destroyed. And since the adults of this generation were taught the same things as myself, they donīt know how to react to the childrens question that follows:"Why does this man kiss another man?"

Most of them say:"Because they are good friends" or ignore it and try to focus on another topic. I know itīs wrong, but if my little sister wold ask me the question...I would feel uncomfortable too.

So I know Iīm being a bit simple minded, but I donīt like it if something like that happens. Nothing is wrong with holding hands, nothing is wrong with a short kiss, but those long kisses with tongue and hands in the othersī pants...it doesnīt belong in the public....the same goes for straight people. But itīs easier for "us old people" to comprehend seeing a man changing spit with a woman than a man and a man (or woman and a women)

If you like running around naked, please do it, but think about others too and donīt run around like that in public. Think about how others feel, think about the growing up and the older people who were just raised like this. This doesnīt mean I want to hide the fact that there are homosexual, but such things shouldnīt have to be explained to a 4 year old child...thatīs why shouldnīt run around naked or have *** in public..
Itīs a short ranged thought, but itīs the system we live in and it has some laws and rules of manner that should be taken seriously.
Itīs not allways discrimination, you just have to look at the big picture.

Maybe in a few years thatīll change again, but for now...

Homosexual is nothing to be hated, itīs something normal and since itīs love...itīs natural :heart: . But all have to accept some rules/laws and if they are broken you should face the consequences...
Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:35 pm.
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M.O.G.
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It's a bit of a mixed bag for me. While I accept the fact that many people are attracted to the same sex (one of my best friends from childhood being one of them) I simply can't condone it nor do I really understand it myself. However, you won't ever catch discriminating against a person due to their sexual preference.
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Kitsune
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I chose the first option,"I'm fine with it. Love is love."

Ever since I was young,I never thought that it was wrong for people of the same sex to love each other.Love is love,after all,so why should we hate homosexuals just because they love someone of the same sex?

I have homosexual and bisexual friends,so I know what they're going through.My friend was always bullied by our male classmates because they knew that he's homosexual,and no one else besides me was willing to defend him against them because they had the same mindset.My other friends are willing to be friends with him,they just can't accept the fact that he's homosexual though.

I share the same view as judge: I don't like seeing couples kissing in public,etc for all groups,heterosexuals,homosexuals and bisexuals.I don't really know why,but I can't stand seeing people do such things in public.Everywhere I go,I see couples behaving intimately in public,and I can't help but think, "Why is it that heterosexuals are allowed to do that in public while homosexuals can't? <_< "
Edited by Kitsune, Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:42 am.
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If a person so chooses a life of homosexuality, that is their own choice! How does it really effect you seriously? Does it disgust your, or is it against your made up cult of a religion?

Honestly, look away or something. It is none of your business in the first place. It doesn't make them any less human or anything. It is a choice, an attraction between the same sex. Not a damn thing wrong with it, in fact, if you find something wrong with it. Get yourself checked out before you cause them problems. Which is the only thing that is really the issue here.

Is that if someone chooses to have homosexual relations or life-style they are automatically, basically, kicked out of society. Which is just wrong. Hell, you chosed to be heterosexuals. Outcasting, disgracing, or any other name you can think of. Is just BS!

Leave them alone, if you have a problem with it, keep it to yourself. They don't go around saying how disgusting heterosexuals are.
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Personally, I'm all for the whole movement of homo-sexuals. Unlike feminists or some of those first nation morons who try to get special privileges for themselves for what happened in the past, this group of people actually have something worth complaining about. Lets face it, how many people would really want to have their hetero-sexuality put into derogation? I can get this sort of reaction from the gay community.

Gays seem to overly exert some pseudo hate that they think seems to exist. Realistically, people aren't that hateful of gays.... Well, around where I live anyway. In my region{and in many others in my country I'd imagine}, you'd be looked down on pretty harshly if you were to discriminate someone for being gay despite the fact that people still find it "disgusting" or "wrong." People like to think that anything that goes against their morals of liberty is "wrong." Therefore, I can't imagine the rate of gays being discriminated around here being that high. I can imagine the open ones being hit with a good number of ridicule, but not straight up discrimination. Last I recall, gays are still allowed to go to any convenience store in a city to pick up a can of coke or are allowed to get a job at the local superstore so they really shouldn't go all out in the whole discrimination thing. Of course, I do believe this is probably just from where I'm standing in.

I think gays may be more discriminated in the US than in Canada, but in my case I find that gays are relatively tolerated if not commonly supported for their actions. Which is why I guess we have same-sex marriage. Being as I've never lived in the US, I can't truly grasp the whole feeling towards homo-sexuality other than that the feelings towards it seem to be somewhat mixed. Not once have I heard from anyone in Canada that they're against homo-sexuality, but I've heard a good number of things that go against them from Americans.

From my experience, a lot of people do find the concept of homo-sexuality odd, "wrong," or "gross" but people tend to not go against their freedoms for some reason. Often times, I hear about how love is what you want it to be. I rarely ever hear love ever being anything "sacred" or anything of that sort. People tend to make love as some sort of thing that comes naturally to us and not by choice. Which seems to be the common philosophy from where I'm at which may be quite contrary to what a good number of you have been told.

Why there seems to be this difference isn't entirely certain to me, but I think it may have to do with our past as a country that choose to be different from others. Namely, the influence of Pierre Trudeau{whom is one of my all time favorite world leaders} could have been a large factor for this.

All in all, I think homo-sexuality will eventually get all of their rights and be entirely tolerated. Considering the fact that it's mostly the older generation that are opposing them and the younger generations are much more light on them, I can see the change coming. All the gays really need to do is point out their discrimination when it can be found and promote that this sort of thing really isn't something that should really be thought about too deeply.
Edited by DrewTheDude-Dono, Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:26 pm.
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Takenaka Hanbei
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:22 pm
I think gays may be more discriminated in the US than in Canada, but in my case I find that gays are relatively tolerated if not commonly supported for their actions. Which is why I guess we have same-sex marriage. Being as I've never lived in the US, I can't truly grasp the whole feeling towards homo-sexuality other than that the feelings towards it seem to be somewhat mixed. Not once have I heard from anyone in Canada that they're against homo-sexuality, but I've heard a good number of things that go against them from Americans.
Yeah, Americans are worse when it comes to these types of things. Where I live though it seems a bit worse. There is a a "Gay + Straight Alliance" Club in my school, ehhh, not the best idea they had...
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I chose the third one

why? because no matter what I do, in my heart, Gays/Lesbians just dont sit well. I mean, I don't care if I see guys hold hands, but actually talking to them is just too akward to me. So I guess you can say im a little bit Homophobic.

Im sorta alright with the fact that they are around, as long as they stay away from me.
Edited by KiniroCorda, Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:52 am.
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jargen88
Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:50 am
I chose the third one

why? because no matter what I do, in my heart, Gays/Lesbians just dont sit well. I mean, I don't care if I see guys hold hands, but actually talking to them is just too akward to me. So I guess you can say im a little bit Homophobic.

Im sorta alright with the fact that they are around, as long as they stay away from me.
Why is it awkward to talk to gay people? I'm curious of the exact source of anxiety.

I also wonder how this extends to people online. Will you refuse to talk to someone at all - or stop an in-progress conversation if you find out that they're gay?
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Mon Jan 5, 2009 5:08 am
jargen88
Mon Jan 5, 2009 4:50 am
I chose the third one

why? because no matter what I do, in my heart, Gays/Lesbians just dont sit well. I mean, I don't care if I see guys hold hands, but actually talking to them is just too akward to me. So I guess you can say im a little bit Homophobic.

Im sorta alright with the fact that they are around, as long as they stay away from me.
Why is it awkward to talk to gay people? I'm curious of the exact source of anxiety.

I also wonder how this extends to people online. Will you refuse to talk to someone at all - or stop an in-progress conversation if you find out that they're gay?
Nice question there, Rydain.

Wouldn't you think it's kinda rude to stop an ongoing conversation just like that? But I guess this does give some people discomfort.

As for me I'm fine with it. I'm a straight girl, and I have homosexual friends and they're also people. Nothing wrong with loving someone of the same sex.

And besides, gays and lesbians do have something to contribute to society. In the place where I live, they're even very successful people (well, the hardworking ones).
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...my partner is male...:/

But I feel that other homosexuals, even in developed countries, are getting their priorities wrong. Marriage rights, social equality, recognition etc are all good things to work towards; but so many homosexuals don't even have basic needs met. What good is the ability to adopt children if we ourselves can't walk safely in the street?

My view is thus a bit unconventional in that we should ignore the rude jokes for now and just focus on becoming a strong presence that is not to be trifled with. This means that gays and lesbians need to take the initiative and step out of the 'pansy' stereotype, branch out into roles that are outside the arts/fashion scene and make themselves known.

Once we rise to power, respect and equality will come.
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