The AI needs to be improved!

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The AI needs to be improved!
Topic Started: Mar 8 2007, 10:59 PM (1,289 Views)
Sephiroth_masamune666	Mar 8 2007, 10:59 PM Post #1
Elite Soldier Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,769 Joined: February 22, 2007	Great game, but troops need to be more involved, they run up to you and then...stop. Stand there for about a minute and then maybe attack once. SW2 improved this a little, with most soldiers attacking at will, but still, i'd like to see a little more. Also, officers need to be a little more unpredictable as once you know their speed, their actions are rarely a suprise. Maybe more combos? Sephiroth - The Phoenix
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Red Knight	Mar 9 2007, 12:13 AM Post #2
1948-2009: THE GRAND SLAM DREAM LIVES ON! Posts: 6,547 Group: Members Member #1,747 Joined: April 28, 2006	I think having the enemy soldiers attack you randomly with no warning would be an improvement. Also, enemy soldiers could attack you in swarms and combo your character to death. Enemy officers could have faster attack speeds.
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Sephiroth_masamune666	Mar 9 2007, 06:55 PM Post #3
Elite Soldier Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,769 Joined: February 22, 2007	Exactly! And perhaps varied attack speeds, with pauses in between combos?
	Sephiroth - The Phoenix


Red Knight	Mar 9 2007, 07:00 PM Post #4
1948-2009: THE GRAND SLAM DREAM LIVES ON! Posts: 6,547 Group: Members Member #1,747 Joined: April 28, 2006	Actually, no pauses between combos would be a very good idea. The attack speeds could range from moderately slow to insanely fast.
	I am the game, I don't need luck Look at it, wish you had it, and eat your hearts out. DGENERATION-X! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvEAqoF94dc 6 Nations 2009- Ireland are GRAND SLAM CHAMPIONS! WOOOOOOOO! 1948-2009: THE DREAM...LIVES...OOOOONNN!


Sephiroth_masamune666	Mar 9 2007, 07:20 PM Post #5
Elite Soldier Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,769 Joined: February 22, 2007	I can see what you mean. A varied combo speed could completely throw your opponent off guard, bringing more elements of skill into the game.
	Sephiroth - The Phoenix


KOEI Warriors	Mar 9 2007, 08:11 PM Post #6
_root.admin Posts: 0 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: August 11, 2005	Better AI and don't make all generic officers also more soldiers in the battlefield please!!



Red Knight	Mar 9 2007, 08:34 PM Post #7
1948-2009: THE GRAND SLAM DREAM LIVES ON! Posts: 6,547 Group: Members Member #1,747 Joined: April 28, 2006	I'd have to agree. There should be 2,000-20,000 soldiers per battle to kill. There aren't enough peons to slay mercilessly.
	I am the game, I don't need luck Look at it, wish you had it, and eat your hearts out. DGENERATION-X! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvEAqoF94dc 6 Nations 2009- Ireland are GRAND SLAM CHAMPIONS! WOOOOOOOO! 1948-2009: THE DREAM...LIVES...OOOOONNN!


XthemastaX	Mar 9 2007, 10:00 PM Post #8
Ha, like lambs to the slaughter. Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #3,897 Joined: October 22, 2006 Gender Male	I'd say the soldiers can do their healing musou and when the soldiers do a big big attack your health my go down to half
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Red Knight	Mar 9 2007, 11:02 PM Post #9
1948-2009: THE GRAND SLAM DREAM LIVES ON! Posts: 6,547 Group: Members Member #1,747 Joined: April 28, 2006	Maybe the health should go down to 1/8th just for the challenge. The peons should be a bit on the strong side too.
	I am the game, I don't need luck Look at it, wish you had it, and eat your hearts out. DGENERATION-X! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvEAqoF94dc 6 Nations 2009- Ireland are GRAND SLAM CHAMPIONS! WOOOOOOOO! 1948-2009: THE DREAM...LIVES...OOOOONNN!


God-Like Phoenix	Mar 10 2007, 01:52 AM Post #10
Mercenary General Posts: 3,521 Group: Moderators Member #5,908 Joined: March 5, 2007 Gender Male	I agree, the peons and normal soldiers are pretty much useless, except of course as our personal punching bag, and the way they attack is to predictable, they need a little bit of viriety, have 'em all attack at once, force u to use ur musou to save urself, give us a challenge, PLEASE!!!
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XthemastaX	Mar 10 2007, 02:02 AM Post #11
Ha, like lambs to the slaughter. Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #3,897 Joined: October 22, 2006 Gender Male	They can do more musou attacks
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Sephiroth_masamune666	Mar 10 2007, 12:33 PM Post #12
Elite Soldier Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,769 Joined: February 22, 2007	Dmg is still low. I want a challenge, but maybe something a little realistic, the soldier count defo needs to be increased - 20k soldiers would seem more like a battlefield. Wtf is with the fact an army has 10000 soldiers but you can only seem to find like 1000 of them? lol.
	Sephiroth - The Phoenix


God-Like Phoenix	Mar 11 2007, 03:42 AM Post #13
Mercenary General Posts: 3,521 Group: Moderators Member #5,908 Joined: March 5, 2007 Gender Male	yeah, cause i wanna kill at least 5000 soldiers, not struggling to reach even 1000, its no fun. Its fun when doing co-op to sort of have a competition to see who can get the most kills, does anyone else do that?
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Sephiroth_masamune666	Mar 19 2007, 10:20 PM Post #14
Elite Soldier Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,769 Joined: February 22, 2007	Yeah, Me and Spike do that a lot. First to 1000. Once you get there, you must kill enemy general. No killing officers until 1000 ko's is reached, if you do, thats a 100 KO penalty in our competition.
	Sephiroth - The Phoenix


Haku	Mar 20 2007, 02:54 AM Post #15
The Faceless Mask Posts: 46 Group: Members Member #6,122 Joined: March 17, 2007	Me and Rai do that alot, but I usually win.
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Capitaine	Apr 6 2007, 08:49 PM Post #16
Soldier Posts: 9 Group: Members Member #6,535 Joined: April 4, 2007	The Armies need to get bigger and more organised. We need calvary charges, volleys of arrows and different types of infantry ordered into divisions. Like, say the enemy were coming at you on horseback-you lead some spearmen and archers to fight them off. Or if they had created a solid shield wall of footmen, you could run in personally and break through it so that your own troops could advance. It wouldn't have to alter the traditional gameplay too much, but Koei need to keep adding new features for the games to survive.



vyle	Apr 7 2007, 08:57 PM Post #17
INDIEcisive Posts: 84 Group: Members Member #5,935 Joined: March 7, 2007 Gender Male	Capitaine Apr 6 2007, 07:49 PM The Armies need to get bigger and more organised. We need calvary charges, volleys of arrows and different types of infantry ordered into divisions. Like, say the enemy were coming at you on horseback-you lead some spearmen and archers to fight them off. Or if they had created a solid shield wall of footmen, you could run in personally and break through it so that your own troops could advance. It wouldn't have to alter the traditional gameplay too much, but Koei need to keep adding new features for the games to survive. That would be great it would add more realistic battle elements to the game, Insp. Chin. is right make the generels more unique add more faces and diffrent movements and give them diffrent armor with their Clan Crest on it that will add more uniqueness to them.



LittleDragonZ	Apr 9 2007, 01:27 PM Post #18
Behold the spear of Baby Dragon! Posts: 6,846 Group: Admins Member #3,636 Joined: October 5, 2006 Gender Male	The AI in DW3/XL is the best AI by far! Thats what it should be like. Edit: ''diffrent armor with their Clan Crest on it that will add more uniqueness to them.'' Now I like the sound of that!



Sephiroth_masamune666	May 28 2007, 05:07 PM Post #19
Elite Soldier Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #5,769 Joined: February 22, 2007	Perhaps make edit mode more diverse, not just sticking to traditional chinese general outfts? Maybe being able to create more anime style characters? Maybe more voices?
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LittleDragonZ	May 28 2007, 09:51 PM Post #20
Behold the spear of Baby Dragon! Posts: 6,846 Group: Admins Member #3,636 Joined: October 5, 2006 Gender Male	Dynasty Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends has the best AI, hands down. Dynasty Warriors 4: Xtreme Legends AI is not as good, but still good. Dynasty Warriors 5: Xtreme Legends AI is poor. So there is a pattern, and that is, its getting worse by each installment. <_<



Shogun	Jun 10 2007, 08:33 AM Post #21
Generic Title Posts: 2,348 Group: Moderators Member #5,876 Joined: March 2, 2007 Gender Male	The AI in DW5E was pretty good, in fact, it made the game a lot harder on hard/chaos.
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SlickSlicer	Jun 10 2007, 08:44 AM Post #22
- Posts: 3,367 Group: Banned Member #7,082 Joined: April 29, 2007	Quote: Dynasty Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends has the best AI, hands down. In what way? I found every stage and every enemy to be easy to beat with every character on every difficulty in that game. :[



necrosis	Jun 10 2007, 09:28 AM Post #23
Watching and waiting... Posts: 2,243 Group: Members Member #1,706 Joined: April 26, 2006	Guan's Apprentice Yoshitsune Jun 10 2007, 01:44 AM Quote: Dynasty Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends has the best AI, hands down. In what way? I found every stage and every enemy to be easy to beat with every character on every difficulty in that game. :[ well ain't we awesome >_>
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LoW	Jun 10 2007, 11:40 AM Post #24
This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore.... Posts: 4,439 Group: Members Member #749 Joined: February 21, 2006 Gender Male	Shogun Jun 10 2007, 09:33 AM The AI in DW5E was pretty good, in fact, it made the game a lot harder on hard/chaos. You're kidding, right? I thought the AI in DW5E was much worse than in DW4E >_>.
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Shogun	Jun 10 2007, 11:49 AM Post #25
Generic Title Posts: 2,348 Group: Moderators Member #5,876 Joined: March 2, 2007 Gender Male	Nope. The enemies may be weak but if you delay in a battle they'll eventually devestate your allies, strategically.
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