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SW3 character wishlist
Topic Started: Mar 4 2008, 01:39 PM (16,760 Views)
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I see what the problem was now, his name wasn't spelled right. Well he does sound fairly important and a decent add then.
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well i just think he would be better, he would probly have a better, ore tragic ending IMO,(i always have to disagree with you from some reason, we think the exact opposite :rolleyes: ) i think i would just want a younger hojo than ujimasa, who i expect would be old, i think a younger one would be better.

and ujinao did more than just the one odawara, he also participated in the other odawara battles too (such as the takeda and uesugi ones)

@Mten: i think wakizaki yasuharu would be better for the Akechi army, he lasts much longer than anyone else from that army(i think)
Ujinao was too young to participate in the other Odawara battles. The Uesugi and Takeda attacks were both when Ujiyasu was daimyo of the Hojo, and Ujinao was still a young child.

I was wrong about him only having the final Odawara siege on his record though; he helped his father fight the Takeda during the elimination of Takeda clan, and later helped fight Takigawa Kazumasu in Kanto.

Thing is, Ujimasa is actually younger than Nobunaga by 4 years. The "old man" generic in SW and the Basara portrayal of him are totally wrong, a guy who's barely over 50 at his death wouldn't look that old and decrepit. Nobunaga's Ambition portrays him as a somewhat evil-looking daimyo closer to Nobunaga in appearance, which I think is a much more fitting look for him.

Mten: Wakizaka Yasuharu was a general of the Oda who worked for Mitsuhide at first, helping him take Tamba province by defeating the Hatano's famed Red Devil general Akai Naomasa, who gave Yasuharu a rare silver pelt(which became Yasuharu's trademark of sorts) to keep care of at his death. He later joined Hideyoshi after the battle of Yamazaki, and distinguished himself as one of the Seven Spears of Shizugatake at that battle. He was granted the post of daimyo of Awaji Island which lies between Shikoku and Osaka bay. He would go on to be one of Hideyoshi's main naval commanders at Kyushu, Odawara and in Korea, and then come Sekigahara he was the second most notable daimyo to betray the Western Army, joining in on Kobayakawa's defection.
woops, my bad, i read wrong, when it said " Before his assumption of the role of daimyô of the Hôjô, Ujinao accompained Ujimasa during his campaign against the Takeda. The fighting between the two families was intermittent and yielded no result," i thought it was refering to the odawara battle, my bad. but koei seems to portray people in battles they were too young in too fight, like yukimura, in sw1 he was in the battle of kawanakajima, and that was before he was even born, and in sw2 he was in the battle of nagashino were yukimura was only a child at the time (he was about 7 or 8 at the time)

@ Mten: my bad on the spelling, i always say and write wakizaki, beceause its sounds weireder, my bad
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Man I just realized that I forgot all about the Date. Well for them I'd say add Katakura Kagetsuna (Kojuro), Date Shigezane, and Oniniwa Tsunamoto. As if I can recall some history here, Shigezane, Kagetsuna, and Tsunamoto made up some kind of trio.
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For Date, I'd personally like Shigezane if anyone, just to mix it up a bit since most incarnations tend to give Kojuro to Masamune as a buddy(even in SW1, the generic strategist guy who followed Masamune around and was driven crazy by Masamune's antics was Kojuro.)

And yes, Shigezane, Kojuro and Tsunamoto made up the Date's Three Elders. I doubt Tsunamoto would be a viable choice though, he didn't do much compared to Shigezane and Kojuro. The most likely Date adds would be Shigezane, Kojuro, Masamune's father Terumune, Masamune's uncle Mogami Yoshiaki, or Masamune's wife Megohime.
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Shoot if they do add all that stuff. some how i gotta get my hands on a wii. :( whoa that sounds wierd.
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Wait... So it is only for the Wii? Then my comment is useless but -
I just want all the Retainers who are in most of the battles like Ii Naomasa, and Nobunaga's son.
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its not announced only for the wii yet, koei hasn't said a word about this game, so its all just assumptions now.
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i want more hojos. maybe 2 or 3 of them. i think they are highly underrated in sw2.
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Seems likely more of them will be added, with Ujimasa being most likely I suppose. Another Date officer such as Kojuro Katakura wouldn't go amiss either.
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well the ones i REALLY want to see in SW3 (not like i am gonna play it since its on wii) is Nobutada oda and Katsuyori Takeda
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My Character Wishlist:

Nobuyuki Sanada: could have a very complicated/in-depth story. adds depth to ina,yukimura

Chiyome Mochizuki: takeda ninja! nuff said . . . adds depth to shingen,yukimura. gives takeda another officer

Kiyomasa Kato: one of the toyotomi's strongest warriors and could give another dimension to Sekigahara. Could help in aftermath of Sekigahara. Rivalry w/ Mitsunari. Relates to Hideyoshi, Nene, Ieyasu.

Kennyo Honganji: i miss him from SW1. shows the cruelty and mercilessness of Nobunaga. Could team up with Magoichi. He could also side with Shingen and Kenshin as part of the 'Old World' that the Oda are trying to dispel.
P.S. The Siege of Ishiyama-Hongan-ji would be EPIC! :D

Yodo-gimi: could be portrayed as a very sinister villainess and perfect rival for Nene. Would cause the downfall of the Toyotomi. Relates to Hideyoshi, Nene, Ieyasu.

Yoshiaki Mogami: Sheds more light on Masamune's 'early years' and could give him a rival. come in as part of Sekigahara. also could have battles with Uesugi.

Matsu Maeda: Adds another Oda officer, could assist her husband and relates to all other Oda officers. Koei could also delve into her life after Toshiie.

Kojuro Katakura: Even more depth to Masmune! could be a father/brother figure to him, always mentoring and advising the brash, young lord!

Naomasa li: The Red Devil himself! Tadakatsu couldnt be the only Guardian of the Tokugawa in the game . . .
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if you ask me, tadakatsu seems to be doing a fine job on his own. Though i think he would fit in better with the Takeda
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Though i think he would fit in better with the Takeda
That would actually be hilarious to see Tadakatsu part of the Takeda clan but they wouldn't do that tho especially since the Takeda have Yukimura already who is the guardian of the Takeda. :P

My wishlist is really just wanting Ranmaru to have his story again because he's also Nobunaga's guardian and therefore does play a part in his story. Other than that tho, besides that, the other three Tokugawa guardians, Masamune needs one of his retainers namely Kojuro, Kosa Kennyo Honganji. Leave Goemon out. Matsu Maeda, Nobuyuki Sanada, and bring in the 3 other warriors from Orochi because if anything they lay the groundwork for the Sengoku Period. Anyways I really want to know is how many warriors there gonna put in.
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Surprised no one's mentioned Yasuke yet; his unique perspective on the later years of Nobunaga's domination would be perfect to depict in a Musou mode. Plus, as Nobunaga's bodyguard, he could have a whole friendly rivalry thing going with Ranmaru (sort of like the relationship between Gan Ning and Ling Tong in DW5.)
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Though i think he would fit in better with the Takeda
That would actually be hilarious to see Tadakatsu part of the Takeda clan but they wouldn't do that tho especially since the Takeda have Yukimura already who is the guardian of the Takeda. :P

My wishlist is really just wanting Ranmaru to have his story again because he's also Nobunaga's guardian and therefore does play a part in his story. Other than that tho, besides that, the other three Tokugawa guardians, Masamune needs one of his retainers namely Kojuro, Kosa Kennyo Honganji. Leave Goemon out. Matsu Maeda, Nobuyuki Sanada, and bring in the 3 other warriors from Orochi because if anything they lay the groundwork for the Sengoku Period. Anyways I really want to know is how many warriors there gonna put in.
i have to say that the title "gaurdian of the takeda" should belong to
masakage yamagata(the red devil) since yukimura wasn't present for any takeda battles because he was either not born yet or like 10 years old
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Wow I made a mistake about that one. :hehe: With that being said still, Tadakatsu part of the Takeda clan wouldnt work then. Still that would funny tho.
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Here's my wishlist :

Matsu Maeda : The Oda doesn't really need more officer, but I feel that Toshiie's character wasnt perfectly built in SW2XL so I want his wife to be in the game

Naomasa Ii : I believe that he is a must. He is the youngest of the Tokugawa Four and Ieyasu needs more than only Tadakatsu, Ina, and Hanzo.

Ujiyasu Hojo : Kenshin's other rival and Shingen's ally for numerous times. He should be in SW3 coz Kenshin needs to do something other than fighting Shingen agan & again.

Ujimasa Hojo : Ujiyasu's heir and Hideyoshi's last stepping stone. He should be in de game coz Kotaro's story in SW2 was weird.

Kiyomasa Kato : Simple. Hideyoshi needs another retainer and this man could make Sekigahara more intense.

Masanori Fukushima : Same as Kiyomasa.

Kageie Kakizaki : The Uesugi needs more than just Kenshin and Kanetsugu

Kagekatsu Uesugi : Kenshin's heir and one of many heirs that lasts long.

Kazumasa Isono : A senior Azai retainer. Nagamasa should have at least 1 retainer.

Motonari Mori : Some said he's too old for SW, but I think he deserves to be playable coz Motonari was remembered as a great daimyo.

Nobuyuki Sanada : Yukimura's brother and Ina's husband. He should add depths to Yukimura's story so we can say goodbye to the Three Amigos (Yukimura-Mitsunari-Kanetsugu) nonsense.

Masayuki Sanada : Yukimura and Nobuyuki's father, also a Takeda retainer. Shingen really needs a right hand man and not forcing Sakon to the role.

Chiyome Mochizuki : Everyone has been talking about her. She should be another ninja so we can get realistic.

Muneshige Tachibana : He was mentioned as Tadakatsu's equal. He should be in SW3 coz in SW2 Ginchiyo was just another Western Army officer.

Kennyo Honganji : He was never playable. That is it.

Terumoto Mori : Motonari's grandson and heir. He should be playable coz he was 1 of the Five Elders.

Tadamoto Niiro : Yoshihiro is still alone in the game and Tadamoto was a respected Shimazu retainer.

Dosan Saito : He should be in the game to add more battles before Okehazama. Plus, he could add depths to No's story.

Shigezane Date : Masamune needs a retainer

Kojuro Katakura : Same as Shigezane

Hisahide Matsunaga : I call him "The Dong Zhuo of Sengoku". He should be in the game coz he plotted to kill Shogun Yoshiteru.

Yoshiteru Ashikaga : 13th Ashikaga Shogun and known as a powerful swordsman.
He should have a story when he escapes Hisahide's trap.

Junkei Tsutsui : Lord of Yamato. He helps Nobutada Oda Besieging Shigi Castle. He should have a rivalry with Hisahide and add depths to Sakon's story.

Yoshikage Asakura: Daimyo of Echizen and Nagamasa's ally. I really want him to be in the game so he could have a rivalry with Nobunaga.

Sorin Otomo : Daimyo of Bungo province. He could add battles for Yoshihiro.

Dosestu Tachibana : Sorin's retainer and Gichiyo's dad. He was known for being a powerful warrior despite some of his bode were paralyzed.





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Um. What about Jubei Yagyu (The female and the male version). Even though they may not be during the same time period I would like to see them in there.
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I cannot remember too much about the Sengoku Era, but here's what I'd like to see:

Kanbei Kuroda
Kiyomasa Kato & Masanori Fukushima
Return of Kunoichi
Kojuuro Katakura (Adds a little something for Date)
Naomasa Li
Ekei Ankuoji (Can't remember how his name was spelled again)

This is what I like to see. Let's see how koei will surprise me.
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I dont think Jubei Yagyu will be in the game because he was not considered part of Azuchi-Momoyama period (he was born 2 years after Ieyasu became shogun). Musashi was born sometime after Nobunaga's death and he participated Battle of Sekigahara even though he was more often viewed as an Edo period ronin than a Sengoku period general
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There were two famous Jubei Yaguys, Muneyoshi Sekishusai and his grandson Mitsuyoshi. Muneyoshi would just be another swordsman who could probably serve Ieyasu at some point. Mitsuyoshi's career began after the fall of Toyotomi clan, so he shouldn't even be considered unless KOEI wants to have another bonus/special character who doesn't have any connections to the events of the series.

And there was no female Jubei Yaguy. Don't believe everything Onimusha series tell you ;) .
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There is only one Jubei: Mitsuyoshi. Yagyu Muneyoshi's title name was Sekishusai, not Jubei, and Munenori's was Shinzaemon. All three were highly famous.

Muneyoshi served Matsunaga Hisahide for most of his military career, then in his last years joined Ieyasu. Munenori served Ieyasu as his main sword instructor and later as a local daimyo in Yamato.

And Jubei had two daughters, so there were female Yagyus... totally unrelated to this though.
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Yeah, that's how it was >_>. Onimusha 2 confused me because Muneyoshi is known in that game as Jubei Yagyu but in DoD that name has passed to his granddaughter, Akane.

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id also like to see Ujimasa Hojo, Nobuyuki Sanada and another takeda officer like Nobufusa Baba or Nobushige Oyomada, though i think they are going to make Katsuyori for the Takeda
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I dont really think Kunoichi will be in the game, I mean not that ninja from SW1. I don't think she was even based on the Sanada Ten Braves because all I know is that no kunoichi in the Ten Braves (Kosuke Anayama was a guy).
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