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Compare WO series to DW series - Shu Characters; All Shu Characters - Better/Worse than DW Series?
Topic Started: Jul 19 2008, 06:47 PM (1,660 Views)
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Pang Tong :)
Gameplay Wise
Good R1 attack, thats for sure, but it seems his whirlwind attacks and Musou were nerfed somewhat, I haven't used Pang Tong that much in MO unlike in DW -_-

Story Wise
He serves Wei in both games, but didn't appear in any stages as an ally in MO so I can't say what he was like in it...

Jiang Wei ^_^
Gameplay Wise
His R1 attacks aren't stunning but the results are still good, otherwise hes the Jiang Wei we have used before...

Story Wise
If you get Yue Ying on the Gaiden Stage he appears in, you get some dialogue about Zhuge Liang, but nothing much else to say about him...
He serves Wei in MO2 which should be interesting
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This guy definitely isn't a rock anymore....
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Gameplay wise:

Improved from DW5. Being a Speed type allows him to cancel his slow recovery C4 and C6 attacks. His special kick is quick and stuns people leaving them open for an attack. I don't mind his three-lightning special attack either. Effective and spammable even though it consumes Musou (which isn't much of a problem with a certain skill).

Story wise:

Jiang Wei's still Jiang Wei. Loyal only to Zhuge Liang and kingdom of Shu. When you meet him for the first time, he immediately has a plan and doesn't hesitate to use it. Hasn't touch his lost, it seems. Wondering how he'll be in WO2.
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All characters from DW are much better as it seems that they have more moves and some have been improved in WO.
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All characters from DW are much better as it seems that they have more moves and some have been improved in WO.

I think it depends what abilities you take in consideration. For example, if we ignore weapon attributes and items/skills from both games, Huang Zhong is definitely better in DW5 than in WO. On the other hand, if weapon attributes and items/skills are included, it's hard to choose which game has better Huang Zhong. I can tell you that with right weapon and skill setup, Huang Zhong's quite a killer in WO and possibly much stronger than DW5's Huang Zhong would be with strongest possible equipment.
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All characters from DW are much better as it seems that they have more moves and some have been improved in WO.

I think it depends what abilities you take in consideration. For example, if we ignore weapon attributes and items/skills from both games, Huang Zhong is definitely better in DW5 than in WO. On the other hand, if weapon attributes and items/skills are included, it's hard to choose which game has better Huang Zhong. I can tell you that with right weapon and skill setup, Huang Zhong's quite a killer in WO and possibly much stronger than DW5's Huang Zhong would be with strongest possible equipment.

That is true....

but for many other characters there attacks and moves have improved quite alot and fun to play with then in DW. So I personally think WO is much better then DW as it is fun to play with all DW characters in WO game then in DW game.
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Zhuge Liang

Zhuge Liang is another one of my favs from Shu. He always has the awesome unique moveset and his R1 is sweet. He shoots out a bunch of bolts at a 180 degree angle. One thing I dont like about his moveset is his final charge attack, it is week IMO. He has a good fitting role in WO, where he seems to be working for Orochi, but it is just part of his scheme to get Liu Bei B) So he is an improvement, but always good.
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Gameplay Wise

Ah... the legendary Kongming. Well, right when you start at the beginning with him as a fresh character, he's a bit hard to use, but when he has better stats, he can be pretty powerful. He's definitely not one for chaining, with his C2 being just a beam and not multiple hits, but they can be powerful (except for C6), especially his tornado C3. If you use his musou right, it can be deadly as well.

With WO, they pretty much HAD to make him a tech, and that just makes him even more stronger.

Personality and Story Wise
Zhuge Liang is a friggin genius, what else is there to talk about?

Talk about making a jump; his DW5 story mode jumps from Chang Ban to the Nanman Campaign by the 2nd stage. You'd think he would get Yi Ling, but he didn't.

In WO.... wow, all I can say is that Zhuge Liang and Nobunaga tie for the smartest people in the Koeiverse.
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Wei Yan

One of the better speed characters. I often spam his R1, even though it is great for doing so. He shoots a fireball forward, odd attack, but it is useful times. And then he does another slash attack, which is usefull in some cases, but most often not. I love his crazy moveset and love to spam his C3. Good character, but often miss placed.
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Wei Yan

He is really good in my opinion. His R1 throws a flaming ball like from the anime Naruto. C1 and C3 are his good attacks and defeats enemies. His voice is much worse in WO because sometimes when he defeats enemies he is annoying. His story is the same thing with Zhao Yun wanting to rescue Liu Bei. He only takes a few stages in the Shu story mode. In WO2 he teams up with Hanzo.
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Wei Yan

Gameplay Wise
An interesting, zany character to use. Kinda like Pang Tong, but not as crazy and uncontrollable, especially when it gets to his C2.

WO made him a speed. which is OK IMO. Makes him faster, and gives him a fun R1 to spam.

Personality and Story Wise

Talk (or hardly talk) about taciturn, this guy takes it way overboard, especially in WO.

MEEE....ENEMY.....DEFEEEAT.

WO made him as a Zhao Yun supporter, and WO2 makes him as Hanzo's buddy, in exchange for Zhou Tai.
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Zhuge Liang... ^_^
Gameplay Wise
Still good to use, his Special deals good damage and his counterstrike is excellent, apply elements to his C4, C5 and C6, he is easily a deadly character

Story Wise
He acts extremely cold in this game, but his objective is to save Liu Bei and like Cao Pi, he is killing off Orochi from the inside his first action being he sent Yoshihiro to save Zhao Yun...

Wei Yan :ph43r:
Gameplay Wise
Always fun to play with, his R1 attacks are fun to fiddle around with alot, a overall very good character...

Story Wise
The defender of Cheng Du, the only other stage he has much involvement in is when he chases down Goemon, his voice was crippled in this though...
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Yue Ying

I like her R1 attack, where she put out a big ball of electic energy that stay for a little while, and has good power. Ive always liked her C1, and the tech boost makes it better. I found it a bit odd that she was confused by what Zhuge Liang was doing, I would have thought more of her to be in his plan, but kongming is an odd one ;) i would say she improves through WO.
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Yue Ying

My 2nd favorite Shu character. Her R1 is amazing as SSX's R1 to stun the enemies. Her C5 got worse and it was nerfed. But all of her attacks are elemental in the game. Sometimes C4 can kill officers. Her C6 is my favorite. I'm looking forward to the jump cancel on her just like Tetsuo9999 did on some solo runs. Her story involves in Shu. I'd say that she fought against Sun Ce then she was captured and was rescued by Zhao Yun. She got a few stages in the WO series. She was confused by Zhuge Liang's plan. She improved in WO1 while she lost her C1, C2, and C6 in WO2.
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Gameplay Wise

Yue Ying was a good crowd clearer in DW5, her charge attacks were great officer killers, and her musou was great when you're smack right in the middle of bad guys.

WO1 for the most part made her better with the tech upgrade her and her R1, but it looks like her charge attacks have been downgraded a bit, not to mention that her musou (along with a lot of others) lost its effectiveness.



Personality and Story Wise

By the time I really got into DW with DW3, I was wondering why Shu didn't have a female character but the other 2 forces had (Wu has 3 for crying out loud!). So when I found out that a female character would be brought in for Shu in DW4, I was excited. I was really satisfied when I also found out who she really is: The not-so ugly wife of Zhuge Liang.

In DW5, her story was pretty much along the lines of Da Qiao and Xiao Qiao; the wife following the husband. What made her stand out amongst all the other DW females was the main fact that she was also a sharp mind, having contributed the Juggernaut to Shu.

WO had her as an enemy of Wu(Presumably she's captured), and then is with Shu once again. Outside of her storyline of wondering wth Zhuge Liang is up to, she doesn't have much of a role in the overall scheme of things.
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Yue Ying.....

In DW 4 & 5, I did get her stats to a pretty high level (max all in 5, max health and musou in 4). So yeah, I enjoyed playing as her. Sun/Flash Orb + C5 = mayhem.

In WO 1, I used her on my playing rule of "use the ladies". Not too bad, lvl 70++ with a decent 4th.
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Guan Ping

Fu Xi's human clone :ph43r: His R1 isnt that good, he is a power type, but it doesnt have as much power as other Power type characters. Ive always like his C4 and was placed well in the story I felt, with going with Nobunaga instead of showing some part with Guan Yu, which would have been typical.
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One aspect about Guan Ping is that he's always being compared to his father. I guess being in a separate storyline is a way for him to make a name for himself.

His power move is quite weak, but he makes up for it with a wide variety of crowd-clearing moves like C3, C4 and C6. His attack rate is a little slow, but when you're a teenager swinging around a sword as big as you are...

"It's as heavy as it looks, but if you use proper balance, you can land heavy, successive blows"
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Guan Ping

Gameplay Wise

Well... Guan Ping. Kinda reminds me of Fu Xi, except for the charger attacks. What I like about Guan Ping is that despite his heavy weapon, he is FAR from slow.

WO pretty much has him the same, except for the effective R1.

Personality and Story Wise

Guan Ping is always, I mean ALWAYS being in his fathers shadow, and his DW5 story reflected that. He was devoted, and eager to please his adopted God Of War.

His role in WO was pretty neat, not only being away from Shu and Guan Yu, he's the main supporting role in the SW story and being the follower of that crazy demon king, Nobunaga.

WO2 still has him estranged from Shu it seems.
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Next and Last character

Liu Bei

Well, ive saved the King of Virtue for last ^_^ He is my second favorite of Shu, behind you know who :rolleyes: . He is a simple fighter, but has has some strong attacks ive always felt. Never cared for his C1, but love C3, 4, 5 and 6. He has a good effective R1 buff that increases attack strength of everyone. He was very much left out of WO(well, in person wise that is :P ) But it was good to have him as a starter for WO2.
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