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| necrosis | Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:49 am Post #1 |
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http://www.nme.com/news/my-chemical-romance/38392 Russia to ban all things EMO. Looks like our formerly Soviet buddies still have some oppressive mindsets in the lawmaking process. How can this law be fully enforced though?! :wacko: |
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| Kratos Aurion | Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:13 am Post #2 |
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I can't help but laugh at this. Way to go, Russia. All the emo kids who went to my school ended up failing nearly every class. What a waste of the taxpayer dollars, some of them just drop out. I never agreed with the emo trend, and glad that Russia's taking a stand against this backwards and ridiculous "culture". |
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| Jsun | Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:13 am Post #3 |
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KOEI Warriors Forever!
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This kind of make sense I guess. Negative birth rate + emo suicides=FAIL I guess they want more people to have children and stop thinking about suicide and depression even though alot of emos don't do these sorts of things. |
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| Red Knight | Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:58 pm Post #4 |
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Russia does something that emo-haters(especially me) the world over dream of. I think the law should be enforced by publicly beating up emo kids, that way everyday(in Russia at least, damn) will be "Emo kid Beat Down Day". Whoever got this law passed should get a Nobel Prize |
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| Chosis | Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:33 am Post #5 |
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Best news I've heard all day! In all seriousness, though, in a country where 43% of its citizens commit suicide, not to mention a country with the third highest suicide rate of teenagers, I don't blame them for cracking down on something that glorifies it. Besides, even if bucking the system is something for the miserable little toerags to stay alive for, then the bill's done its job. Think of all the attention they'd be getting for being arrested! They'd eat that up! Given the choice of offing themselves and becoming just another number amongst tens of thousands, or living and suffering through all the discrimination and oppression and feeding that need to be different even more, I'd imagine they'd choose the latter in droves. |
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| Emelia | Sat Sep 6, 2008 1:53 pm Post #6 |
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I, for one, am not overall too happy about the EMO click. So I'm somehow supporting this new law. I remember high school how if youo would look at some EMO kid wrong, he/she'd practically attack you or shank you or something. I remember I almost got into it once with one. Oh, that would've made my day... |
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| kuni_izumi | Sat Sep 6, 2008 11:06 pm Post #7 |
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Whoa whoa whoa people! Hang ON a minute! Whether or not you like Emo stuff or not (I'm not a big fan but a lot of people who don't like Emo seem to have a problem with pretty people too I've noticed, just SAYING,) it's an established genre of music and pop culture. POP culture, which, along with music fall under most of the protections of freedom of expression laws. Now, of course, Russia is a grey area on expression rights but saying there should be a "Emo kid Beat Down Day" is just ****ing WRONG. The hell? Should people be able to BEAT YOU DOWN because maybe THEY don't like the way YOU dress? How intolerant can you be?! SECONDLY--they're targeting pop culture as a source for suicide rather than...let's see...depression over the fact you live in a country with a broken economy and totalitarian take on government. Shouldn't they be, you know, NOT stifling expression? That said--banning certain ways of dressing in school and government locations isn't going too far--but it's a step in a generally BAD direction. Why not instead of spending their pretty thin wallets on BANNING things, they worked to offer programs that built up teen moral and self-esteem, like funding the arts again like they used to? I've NEVER seen telling someone they CAN'T DO SOMETHING result in a positive reaction or without having them lash back. It's a stupid, stupid idea. For ANYONE, not just Emo. Christ lemme put it into terms you ALL should be able to understand: WHAT IF THE US BANNED KOEI GAMES BECAUSE THEY ENCOURAGE VIOLENCE? Now tell me you want: Punch a kid who like video games in the face day. |
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| Danion | Sat Sep 6, 2008 11:58 pm Post #8 |
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| DoctorVancouver | Sun Sep 7, 2008 1:03 am Post #9 |
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All Hail Vladimir Putin and our Russian Overlords. Seriously if the rest of the country didn't suck so hard I would consider moving there because of that law. |
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| Jasonic | Sun Sep 7, 2008 1:29 am Post #10 |
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I find it kind of funny. I reminds me of back in highschool, there was a kid in my government class, that whenever the teacher asked what problems do our nation and government face today? and he would always answer by yelling out "EMOS!" :lol: The culture of being emo should have never been started in the first place, they are all just a bunch of depressed people, I mean, first we had the goths and now that they have kind of died out a bit, we now have emos. They are people whos lives are miserable and they are not doing anything about it, instead just making themselves feel worse. And they make people around them depressed or scared. It is not a healthy lifestyle, and they rarely do well for themselves in life. I dont know about the rest of you going to Universitys, but I sure dont see any at mine. Although I dont really feel Russia is handleing this the right way. This will just cause them to go even further into rebellion and start underground societies :ph43r: |
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| kuni_izumi | Sun Sep 7, 2008 1:44 am Post #11 |
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O_o Oh yeah, so many Emo accountants around these days with healthy happy relationships who are completely obsessed with planning their weddings. You know when did DEPRESSED and needing clinical help become a 'fad' and some 'ignorable cry for attention?' You're all unbelievably shallow in your caring for the rest of you know, humanity. I'm not emo. I'm a humanitarian, as in I believe all people should treated equally, fairly and as if they have VALUE to the rest of the world. Psh, anyways I'm a feminist. How many emo feminists do you know? It's hard to fight for a cause if you're just waiting to die isn't it? |
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| Kratos Aurion | Sun Sep 7, 2008 3:00 am Post #12 |
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While it may be true in your experience, I can say otherwise. Everyone in my family gets addicted to stuff easily. Also, from what I've seen, you never break addictions, just replace them. I've been told if I smoke weed, I'll get kicked out by my dad. I'm only addicted to anything chocolate, and Cinnamon Melts from McDonalds. Father: Work, Alcohol, Vitamins Mother: Cigarettes, Coffee Sister: Drinking, Cigs, Weed, other serious drugs. Sister2: Drinking, Cigs Dog: Human Food (For the lulz) But, I don't blame you for it. Most people can only understand what they've experienced. But it's as someone else said before: Declining Population+Suicidal Culture=VERY BAD. I've never been a fan of the "Emo" trend, and I certainly don't socialize with them (as rarely as possible) but wearing girls' pants and makeup on a guy is just wrong. Emo is basically Skater+Suicidal+Feminine. It's just not a winning formula, and it's definitely a degenerate way of life. |
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| kuni_izumi | Sun Sep 7, 2008 3:16 am Post #13 |
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I've got a lot of transgender/transexual/gay/lesbian/crossdressing friends who might have a few choice words about your opinion there. And besides, EMO isn't an addiction, it's a counter-culture which isn't the same thing. Emo kids (and adults, don't get me started on why my generation shouldn't breed) aren't all some sort of addicts, though they can be. Anyone can be. I mean sure they're whiny and generally annoying 90% of the time but these are teenagers (mostly), who aren't exactly the most brilliant of age groups, expressing themselves. Just because they talk/sing/etc. about death doesn't mean they might actually be considering suicide. In many cases being ABLE to express those feelings in some form helps people NOT bottle up emotions inside and helps them deal with it. I knew a writer who had teachers who thought she was going to grow up to be a homicidal maniac because she'd draw a lot of graphic pictures as a kid--and no she didn't, she ended up writing young adult novels about topics like teen pregnancy and cancer and basically ways to deal with really hard situations. Almost everyone on this thread comes across sounding like they're just writing Emo people off as HUMAN BEINGS, because yeah, they're different. So what? You don't have to associate with them or bother with them 90% of the time, but violent threats against them and BANNING their clothing and music because of that? That's discrimination straight up. For now, Russia can get away with it, but if they take away the rights to go to certain web-sites, wear certain clothes in places, listen to certain music now--what's to keep it from snowballing into ANOTHER total lock down of human rights? You all seem to see this as getting rid of an annoyance. NEWS FLASH--someone will find EVERYTHING annoying sooner or later. Do you really think ENACTING LAWS is the way to fix it? Come on I mean...Hippies. Seriously, the USA, sexual revolution and hippies. Free love-pre marital sex...all these things were more or less the same issues--they were seen as DANGEROUS and what happened? Some riots, some innocent people were locked up or KILLED (hey, hey WHATS THAT SOUND?), I mean...this just has way too much potential to snowball out of control. |
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| Kratos Aurion | Sun Sep 7, 2008 3:45 am Post #14 |
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Getting into a flame-war isn't my intention..but I have to say a few things. 1: I realize they are human beings still. Everyone should be treated equally, even though we're not born equally. We should be helping eachother, and getting along. 2: To me, that type of culture is a nuisance. They should be contributing to society, instead of wallowing away in despair and writing suicide notes/skipping class/doing drugs/slitting wrists. Every emo I've seen does these things. Once again, most people only understand what they've experienced, until someone can bring proof against their experiences are the only ones. 3: Things don't necessarily have to keep going from here. But, with Russia's situation, I would actually support the taking away of certain freedoms and privileges for the safety and well being of their country. No matter how good a society, there will always be depressed, poor, and unintelligent people. It's unavoidable. |
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| kuni_izumi | Sun Sep 7, 2008 3:58 am Post #15 |
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1. If everyone should be treated equally, how is banning Emo treating everyone equally? Equal would be all having to wear the exact same thing, or having total freedom. There isn't much of an in between. 2. You're allowed to think that certainly and in many cases maybe you're right. I personally think you're blowing the statistics out of proportion here--but that's an opinion matter and not much is going to change that. However, to say 'wearing girl's pants and make up is wrong' is addressing a LOT more people than just emo kids. Avuneon wear's women's pants sometimes because they FIT BETTER. I'm just letting you know comments like that are wide spreading and easily interpreted as extremely inflammatory--a person could even go so far as to infer you think ALL THINGS effeminate or feminine are degenerate and that you're saying FEMALES are a degenerative class of people. It's blowing it out of proportion yeah, but people do it. 3. If there will always be depressed, poor, and unintelligent people, why single out the Emo culture as the cause? If you get rid of it there will STILL BE depressed, poor and unintelligent people. You'll have spent a lot of time and money and accomplished NOTHING. Additionally, when you start tagging people, or ideas as dangerous you're heading straight for censorship. One thing is dangerous, and then another, and then another. It's a slippery-slope of trouble and all too easily something that's merely inconvenient is tagged as DANGEROUS and then you're right back to discrimination. There's just NO WAY to single out a type of person or cause for something as serious as SUICIDE and point the blame finger at it without making some sort of error. It sounds like Russia is scapegoating Emo culture to get around the fact a lot of people can't keep their jobs/afford to live/buy food and other necessary things and they're depressed about THAT. Russia has two extremes--so poor the factory you work for pays you in FACTORY GOODS (EX: Tires) and you have to trade those goods for FOOD and other things you need, and...Moscow. Which is one of the ten most expensive cities in the world to live in. Russia has MUCH bigger problems than Emo kids. Christ I mean, look at the country, NO WONDER they're all emo. |
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| Bai Xue | Sun Sep 7, 2008 6:00 am Post #16 |
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...What an interesting topic. While at first I wasn't sure about an actual law, reading above about birth rates and suicide rates, well I can understand a law coming in. What annoys me about emos is that most of them don't actually have a major issue that needs therapy or major attention. Those that do, i'd assume have a personality disorder of some sort, like bipolar or borderline personality disorder (I have a theory of my own that there a lot more people suffering from personality disorders than recorded). There's those who are truly depressed, then there are emo kids, who certainly aren't helping the whole situation, so I can understand a law coming in. Is it the best solution? Who knows? Trial and error. |
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| BuddHA0991 | Sun Sep 7, 2008 6:05 am Post #17 |
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That whole argument made me lol. |
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| Danion | Sun Sep 7, 2008 11:01 am Post #18 |
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You seem to confuse an Emo with someone who is really depressed and has problems. Spoiler: It's just teenage angst and wanting to be all troublesome like in teh sad charachter in teh movie They're also mostly people who dramatize things and overreact. ^ HINT HINT |
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| Red Knight | Sun Sep 7, 2008 1:40 pm Post #19 |
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Well, emos just take attention away from people who genuinely need help(HOW DARE THEY!) @kuni_izumi: I think that emos are a bad "Counter-culture" because they'd just make people who "go emo" feel worse about themselves as opposed them just getting on with their lives like everybody else. Hippies were cool, I wish that there were still hippies in this day and age. |
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| kuni_izumi | Sun Sep 7, 2008 2:01 pm Post #20 |
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Danion: Clearly you've never heard of Broadway junkies before
We call them Drama students. There's your revelation of the day.How about coming up with a decent argument about laws and the suppression of human rights other than falling into the typical debate fallacy of attacking your opponent? If you want to label me as something, fine I can't stop you, but I will be laughing my ass off at the idea of being emo--and your complete inability to hold a mature debate where you don't try to compromise my reputation by claiming I have a biased opinion. I'm not big on the emo culture myself--but I'm not going to tell them that BY LAW their culture associations are BANNED. I'll take you seriously when you learn how to make a point and stop sounding like a snot nosed teenager (How about starting with taking a sociology or anthropology class you'd be AMAZED to learn that the whole world doesn't think like, or revolve around, you). Red Knight: Hippies~! @_@ yeah I know things could do with a lot more love but...whatever. I just flipped out at the idea of 'beating people for being different/emo/whatever' But then this did come from a man with a Wrestler (?) holding a sledge hammer in his avatar. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. You know I've never seen/heard/been around any Emo kids that were hurting anyone but themselves. If someone is going to fall into the 'I want to be a Hollywood pity story and have everyone feel sorry for me' gig, that's their decision. Isn't it better to ignore that--and NOT give them more attention by BANNING them? It's sort of feeding that isn't it (Assuming we're talking about culture emo-posers and not actually depressed people)? As someone pointed out earlier--won't they eat this **** up? I still stand that if Russia wanted to lower their suicide rate, giving people SOMETHING TO LIVE FOR as opposed to TAKING THINGS AWAY would be several times more effective. Maybe it'll stop a tiny percentage of 'emos' from killing themselves but if almost HALF your nation is offing themselves, you've got a MUCH bigger problem than facial piercings and fringe hair. |
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| Danion | Sun Sep 7, 2008 3:43 pm Post #21 |
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![]() ![]() I SWEAR, when people can't notice such obvious hints I sometimes want to slit my wrists! *Slit slit slit* -------------------------- This:
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Equals: Hypocrisy. Is it not also wonderfull how you claim that the Russians have way more to worry about than the Emo trend, but you yourself make tl;dr posts continiously and get worked up about a law that; Spoiler: Has not yet, or even will be passed Talking about how the Russians should rioritize better while wasting your time on one unpassed and insignificant law while children are dieing of AIDS in Africa equals: Lulz |
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| Shu | Sun Sep 7, 2008 5:11 pm Post #22 |
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LAWL If emos are depressed, they should stop taking drugs and start taking thier Anti-depressents. Russia may also be trying to keep these brats from being bad influences on the younger kids. They need to learn there are MUCH better ways to deal with the sad stuff in life then smoking and drinking. They could also take away cigarettes and Beer from those parents XD Russia would do something like that <.< |
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| kuni_izumi | Sun Sep 7, 2008 6:41 pm Post #23 |
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You mean where AIDS has come to stand as the acronym for: American Disease Invented to Destroy Sex? Where men rape virgins because they believe it will cure AIDS and if it doesn't work then she wasn't really a virgin? Yeah, I'm against that too. Kind of hilarious how you get worked up about an supposed emo blowing her top enough to continuously press enter for AMAZING spoilerage. Do you have more important things to do than hunt down the appropriate image to spam with? I said banning a cultural movement like emo is wrong. SUGGESTING it strongly enough that it's presented as a possibility for law is WRONG. Writing legislature against a demographic? Wrong too. I'm not changing my stance on that and I don't care if it's Emo, Punk Rock, Goth, Gay, Lesbian, purple, trans-gender, one legged, three eyed, jock, hippie, republican, democrat, green party, pro-abortion, pro-life, pro-anything, anti-anything. Whether I agree with the movement, freedom of speech and expression are two of the MOST precious rights people can have. And while a person's opinions might be anything on the matter, your right to an opinion stops where my body starts. The means physical intimidation or telling me I can't pierce my nose, eyebrow, lip, tongue, or how to cut my hair. If I want to tattoo the spiderman mask to my face that's my business--not your's, not the Russian Government's. Shu: I don't really think the solution to all teenage problems is the right pill. Anti-depressants might be legal, but they adjust brain chemistry too. Forcing people to 'be happy' or 'be mellow' through pharmaceuticals just doesn't seem like it's a good idea. For some people sure it works, but it's hardly the solution to every problem. |
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| Rugal | Sun Sep 7, 2008 6:42 pm Post #24 |
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Wait a second guys. Why isn't anyone doing anything about the "gangster" kids walking around thinking they are all cool with their asses hanging out of their pants? In America, they are known as wiggers. In the UK, they are known as chavs. I'm sure you've all seen them. |
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| Danion | Sun Sep 7, 2008 7:20 pm Post #25 |
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You again missed what I was saying, you're wasting your time on a trivial law about a useless and universally unimportant teenage trend noone actually cares about while the world superpower is waging unjustified wars, better sources of fuel are avaliable but not used and people still believe that the world is 6,000 years old. Look at yourself, you're writing intensivly and are obviously mad because a well known corrupted and rotten shell of a country tried to ban a pathetic trend that will be forgetton in it's own fungus in a few years and will never, ever influence anything on a global scale. You should not be wasting your time like this. In other words: There are FAR more important things than this. Far more. Spend your time on that.
You just said I was getting worked up about this matter. All your arguments are now invalid.
Again, why waste your time on the mere suggestion of a law when you could be spending your time trying to promote the same freedom of expression that needs it moar in a country like.... lol i dunno CHINA?
Not really, if something is unhealthy I'm not going to let you mulitate your body with it. Just because of "freedom hurr" you don't have the right to **** yourself over in the arse Think drugs, they're illegal for a reason. One could argue the same about the Emo trend being mentally unhealthy. Not saying it is, most followers already don't seem the most mental fit anyway. This is nothing major, this is nothing important. Nor will it ever be. No matter how hard you will try to make it seem that way. The whole incident, is nothing more than the common reaction to a popular pop trend, same as rock. This will blow over, and later people will laugh about this. They will laugh at the Emo trend, this law. The overreaction and the useless migraine they gave themselfs because they got so worked up over it. |
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