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| Cao Cao's Pronunciation; How do you say it? | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 23 2008, 04:22 PM (1,528 Views) | |
| Cheshire | Aug 25 2008, 02:12 AM Post #26 |
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I prefer Tsao Tsao. But I also like to say Cao Cao too because it give me the lolz XD |
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| Raglan | Aug 25 2008, 11:59 AM Post #27 |
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If I'm verbalising his name I say Tsao Tsao, but in my head, I'll always read Cow Cow first
 I've tried to say some of the other names with correctly using the KA guide, and most of them sounded as good if not better then Koei's version of them. Suhn Chuen Kuan Ping, and Chuko Liang slide particularly well off the tongue. The only one that I had a problem with was Taishi Ci. I couldn't get T‘aishih Tz‘ŭ to come out without either running out of breath or sounding a bit ill. If Q=Ch, G=K and Ca=Ts etc., why don't the letters Ch, K or Ts get used in the spelling? Was there some academic reason, or was the first English person in China particularly sucky at the alphabet? |
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| ShinUsagi87 | Aug 25 2008, 09:50 PM Post #28 |
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In Mandarin, it's pronounced "ts'ao ts'ao". However, the Cantonese pronounciation is "cho cho". Personally, I would love to know the Cantonese pronounciation for the characters' names since it sounds more "native" to me (and I really don't like Mandarin). |
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| Darkie | Aug 30 2008, 12:47 AM Post #29 |
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Tsao Tsao is better because I want to hear something better than Cow Cow. <_< |
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| Snicks | Aug 30 2008, 12:59 AM Post #30 |
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LOL cho cho!!!:p THAT SEEMS AS BAD AS COW COW!!! Cho cho, I'd love to hear cao pi then:P I don't really care for the pernounceation because I'm to lazy to chang my whole way of saying things, because Cao Cao looks like it's pernounced cow cow and etc. |
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| Obelisk | Aug 31 2008, 02:16 AM Post #31 |
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I don't reall care for the pronunciation. Ever since DW3 I've thought of him as Cow Cow and I've never changed it. |
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| Eni | Aug 31 2008, 02:52 AM Post #32 |
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iCow cow cause i find it funnier than Tsao Tsao, although Tsao sounds more...classy :lol: |
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| Wei-Yan | Aug 31 2008, 03:46 AM Post #33 |
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i have called him Tsao Tsao since dw5 well actually when i got a pc game when they called him Tsao Tsao it annoys my bro when i call him Tsao Tsao |
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| Lord_Lu_Bu | Sep 30 2008, 08:21 AM Post #34 |
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I use both pronunciations because I honestly don't care much for that.Sometimes I feel like saying Cow Cow and other times I feel like saying Tsao Tsao. |
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| PSY | Sep 30 2008, 12:48 PM Post #35 |
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It is very funny to pronounce 'Cow Cow' and 'Cow Pee' :lol: I can't stop laughing. :lol: From Warriors Orochi onwards, they pronounce the Chinese names correctly.  Good job, Koei! |
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| Radec | Oct 1 2008, 08:54 AM Post #36 |
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I say Tsao Tsao pretty much all the time, i changed saying Cow Cow after DW3 i looked on the net because i thought that wasnt right :lol: |
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| Yosei | Oct 1 2008, 12:04 PM Post #37 |
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Always pronounced it Tsao Tsao until I heard DW4's "Cow Cow" and I was like WTF? that's wrong! So I started pronouncing it Cow Cow just for fun |
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| PSY | Oct 1 2008, 02:05 PM Post #38 |
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At the first time I was trying to pronounce Cao Cao was Chow Chow. When I heard they pronounce Cow Cow, I just followed that. It sounds very funny especially Cow Pee (Cao Pi) :lol: |
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| Judau | Oct 1 2008, 02:19 PM Post #39 |
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I much prefer Cow Cow, I think it just gave it a more Dynasty Warriors feel to it, and it sounds more humourous. |
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| LegendarySeaDragon | Nov 28 2008, 03:29 AM Post #40 |
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I used to call him Cow Cow, but after playing through WO, I found Tsao Tsao to be more authorative. It then applied to Cao Pi and Cao Ren afterwards. |
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| metalsnake27 | Dec 3 2008, 03:18 AM Post #41 |
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Why did they change it? We all grew up with Cow Cow, now they just change it. Oh yea and X's are differnt too. ( for ex: Xing Cai. Instead of Shing Kai its Sing Tsai... WTF?) I sometimes still call them cow, but mostly i call them tsaio when playing DW6 or WO.
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| PSY | Dec 4 2008, 05:08 PM Post #42 |
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They changed it because the pronounce of Cow Cow is too hilarious. The Chinese people would laugh at that when hearing people pronounce his name in English. The pronounce of Xing Cai is Sing I' (eye). I read the Chinese pronounciations and I must say they are hard to understand Chinese characters. From WO onward, I call him Tsao Tsao. It is better than calling him Cow Cow <--It sounds like insulting Chinese name |
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| Nasser | Dec 4 2008, 05:37 PM Post #43 |
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Had KOEI used the correct pronunciations ffrom the beginning of thier games, then changed it to this incorrect pronunciations many seem to be using, it would have been hard for them. Learning anything, specialy languages, is super easy when done in an organised way. Personally, I used to hear it "Tso Tso" in some badly translated anime but I didn't get used to it, after DW and the incorrect Cao Cao pronunciation I got used to it. Then, I heard it's acctually Tsao Tsao, I got used to it and all the Cao clan names. Same thing goes for a couple of other easy pronunciations hard ones I didn't bother to look into. I still say Cao Cao at times, 'cause I got used to it. All I can say is that it wasn't a pain in the ass to change the pronunciation, was for correcting the way I say it, had I didn't, it would have been much harder later on. |
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| Fedric 555 | Dec 5 2008, 01:57 PM Post #44 |
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i say cow cow.many people also pronounce different voices. |
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| faichaim0nd | Dec 13 2008, 05:54 PM Post #45 |
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i find it so disgraceful to hear the people who do not know chinese making fun of chinese names... not only was cao cao pronounced wrongly.. the 'yu' in guan yu n zhou yu is pronounced as 'yuee' and not 'you' 'qiao' is pronounced as 'chiao' 'lu' as in lu meng and lu bu is pronounced 'luee'.....lu xun's 'lu' is correctly pronounced as 'loo'....but 'xun' is 'shuin' and not 'shun' 'xu' is pronounced 'shiu', not 'shu' 'yan' is pronounced 'yean'...and not 'yahn' 'yuan' is pronounced 'yuen' thr r many more which i cnt think of at the moment btw... hope people actually do care to pronounce it correctly next time...btw i dunno hw 2 write it for ppl 2 understand d correct pronunciations...sorry if guys cant understand it.. 
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| Ranmaru87 | Dec 14 2008, 01:08 AM Post #46 |
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maybe people who are not chinese must sound and learning mandarin... i also laughing when heard cow cow or sun kuan, hahahahah 
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| faichaim0nd | Dec 14 2008, 06:39 AM Post #47 |
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yeah....thx 4 reminding me!! 'quan' is actually pronounced as 'chuayn'... hehezz 
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| Manji | Dec 14 2008, 07:49 AM Post #48 |
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Ha. I'm learning Chinese (just took my 101 exam the other day) and I still can't bring myself to say the names properly. I've just spent so many years saying the names a certain way I can't break the habit. Plus, any other DW fan could look at you funny for saying "Szoo-ma Ee" (Sima Yi). Chinese is hard language to describe phonetically, btw... But T'sao T'sao I say correctly, 'cause COW COW and COW PI are just plain ridiculous. |
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| waiman | Dec 14 2008, 08:08 AM Post #49 |
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In Mandarin, 'Cao Cao' is correct. 1st Cao is higher sound and 2nd Cao in flat sound. In Cantonese, he will be pronounce in 'Ts-ou Ts-ou'. 1st Tsou in flat sound, 2nd Tsou in high sound. 'Cow Cow' is funny~!!! Wakakakakka~ But it's not a right sound of Cao Cao.
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| Fayt | Dec 14 2008, 08:14 AM Post #50 |
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Originally I pronounced it as "Cow Cow" as that's how it was way back in Kessen II. I didn't know a whole lot about the Three Kingdoms those many years ago either so didn't know any better. Although, after reading the novel (C.H. Brewitt-Taylor version) I now say it as Ts'ao Ts'ao. The same as what is now been used in the more recent KOEI games, such as the Warriors Orochi series and Dynasty Warriors 6. |
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