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Xiahou Yuan's voice acting; Did anyone notice?
Topic Started: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:28 pm (1,652 Views)
Master Sima Yi
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Did you guys notice Yuan's voice acting in the game. Some of his lines are his old voice actor, and some are a new voice actor. It's really strange... and somethimes bothers me.

Btw: the same will happen with WO2.
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Crimsondramon
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I didn't play DW6, but how'd you know it's gonna be like that in WO2? :huh:
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In the Yoshitsune, Kiyomori, Sun Wukong gameplay vid you can see Xiahou Yuan saying "Hold thight men...." by his new voice actor, and "Wow, were did you come from?" in his old voice actor.
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Was Steve Blum even in DW6? He did the old Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan, so I figured it would be a new voice, but still.
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Ooh, JJ is right. I did hear two voices o_O
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Sep 17 2008, 12:55 PM
Was Steve Blum even in DW6? He did the old Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan, so I figured it would be a new voice, but still.

I think Steve Blum was, or it were some old lines which were never used. The old lines appear during battles, but during cutscenes, a new voice actor speaks.
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tennoarashi
Sep 17 2008, 06:55 AM
Was Steve Blum even in DW6? He did the old Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan, so I figured it would be a new voice, but still.

Only if they shamelessly re-used old lines and actual clips from DW5. Blum went Union after DW5.
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I noticed it too. But I thought it was just me... XD
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Nanar
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perhaps the actors did not want to voice him. so they rrecorded both voices by mistake? instead of recording just one voice.

also speaking of yuan, his warriors orochi 2 voice reallly sucks...... it is just NOT like him...

correction i mean when he talks in the intro of senarios like right before you get the map of the battle.
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they did it in SW2XL as well - they had different voice actors for old characters in new scenarios.
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ShaimingLong
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I can't believe I hadn't noticed that before. Now I'm constantly going to be listening out for the differences in the voices.

I suppose it saves Koei a little money, which I suppose isn't a bad thing overall. Better them using old lines to save than cutting out bits of the game.
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T.e.n
Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:55 pm
Was Steve Blum even in DW6? He did the old Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan, so I figured it would be a new voice, but still.
I been thinking the same thing for a long time because they never announced his voice actor for the WO series or even DW6. I am not a big fan of Xiahou Yuan but I am fan of voice actors and it intrigues me to who does who's voice. I keep thinking that Steve Jay Blum does his voice but I am not totally sure now. >.<
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It's not just Xiahou Yuan. It's the curse of Koei to 'recycle' voice clips from past games into the newer installations. Listen to Lu Meng (who, ironically, shares a VA with Xiahou Yuan in DW6 PS2/WO2). If it's a new line, it'll be Tony Oliver. If it's an old line, it'll be Dalan Norris (whom I really, really miss).

It's tacky, but I guess it saves Koei from having to go in and have the new VA redo ALL OF THE LINES from the previous games. It's, unfortunately, something that probably will never change.

BTW, Steve Blum hasn't done Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan since DW5, I think? I can't remember if he was in DW5XL (because Square stole him away). Voice actors change all the time, and if Koei is more likely to recycle than redo. Probably cheaper and more timely.
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It's not just Xiahou Yuan. It's the curse of Koei to 'recycle' voice clips from past games into the newer installations. Listen to Lu Meng (who, ironically, shares a VA with Xiahou Yuan in DW6 PS2/WO2). If it's a new line, it'll be Tony Oliver. If it's an old line, it'll be Dalan Norris (whom I really, really miss).
Ah yes, the dreaded WO2 voice the made my ears cringe everytime Lu Meng spoke. I have noticed the same for Xiahou Yuan now that you mentioned it. I can tell the voice difference of him carried over from DW6 to the Special. If you haven't noticed, Tony Oliver had originally did Ma Chao's voice in DW4 as well so you can see the change of characters that he has provided throughout the series but personally, I don't really care for Tony's voice at all. I really do miss Daran Norris since he not only did an excellent job with Lu Meng but Pang De as well in DW5.

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BTW, Steve Blum hasn't done Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan since DW5, I think? I can't remember if he was in DW5XL (because Square stole him away). Voice actors change all the time, and if Koei is more likely to recycle than redo. Probably cheaper and more timely.
No, Dave Mallow (Ieyasu Tokugawa for WO) took over Sun Jian's voice just for DW5XL then his voice pretty much got killed by Grant George afterwards. The only time Grant did a good job with Sun Jian's voice was DW6.

I just wish they just keep the voice acting consistent with the characters throughout the series completely but money is everything and recording lines for these games do take time so it also has to fit with their schedules in order for it to work out.
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Tony Oliver is NOT a bad VA (see Ma Chao), but the choice of characters and the way he sometimes chooses to portray them (Lu Meng wasn't too bad, if he didn't sound like every OTHER generic, Xiahou Yuan can never sound good without Steve Blum I feel, and Ranmaru in SW1 was just GOD awful). I don't hate him... just... really don't like his voice sometimes.

Maybe I just grew attached to Dalan too much (still humors me that he's Cosmos from Fairly Odd Parents).
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I know that some people's voices changed.

Sun Shang Xiang sounds like Oichi from SW1
Liu Bei sounds like Toshiie Maeda from SW2XL
Pang Tong sounds like Sima Yi DW5

And some just sound totally different.
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I know that some people's voices changed.

Sun Shang Xiang sounds like Oichi from SW1
Liu Bei sounds like Toshiie Maeda from SW2XL
Pang Tong sounds like Sima Yi DW5

And some just sound totally different.
There's also Sun Jian and Zhou Yu. I have no idea who they sound like. :/
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OK, let me get this straight. Xiahou Yuan has two different actors in WO2. I know that. For some reason, the same actor who's played him since DW5 (and 4 I'm pretty sure) didn't voice his new lines in WO2. But I could swear that all of Xiahou Yuan's lines in DW6 have been by his DW5/WO1 voice. I didn't think they really recycled lines from previous games unless it's an expansion. BTW I wouldn't trust Imdb unless it's obvious that they're right.

Sun Jian's voice in DW6 is awesome and sounds like the one he had in DW5, but the one in DW5 didn't do any of the expansions. The guy who did the one CAW voice took over for Sun Jian in the expansions (or at least Empires) and both WOs. Jiahe says he also plays Sun Jian in DW6 but I can hardly believe that. Are you perfectly sure?

Lu Meng has had the same voice since DW5. I trust Imdb with him, since he sounds the same in all the games since 5 (I never really played DW4 but I'll trust it's not the same). I don't know why anyone would think differently.
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Fri May 15, 2009 11:41 pm


Lu Meng has had the same voice since DW5. I trust Imdb with him, since he sounds the same in all the games since 5 (I never really played DW4 but I'll trust it's not the same). I don't know why anyone would think differently.
You're kidding, right?

Dalan Morris did NOT play Lu Meng in WO2 or DW6Special or for the PS2 release. And IMDB is NOT 100% correct when it comes to video game VA casts, trust me. Play a DW6 cutscene with Lu Meng in it, then play DW6Special cut scene with Lu Meng in it, and tell me they sound the same.

And yeah, Meng was voiced by Robert Klein in DW4 (if you played SW1, he was also Ieyasu in that game, if you want a comparison).

Tony Oliver in DW6Special sounded much more gruff than Dalan Morris; there's OBVIOUSLY different actors there.
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I never noticed a difference in WO2. Maybe I should listen more closely. I've never played DW6 for the PS2, and for some reason I've never been able to find the English versions of the cutscenes on YouTube :( . He is the same in the regular DW6, though, right? I mean, Lu Meng sounded more gruff in DW6, but I think that's just the actor (Dalan Morris) doing his thing.

I find the issue of voice acting in these games quite fascinating, actually. Especially because it's all kind of a mystery, since IMDB is so unreliable. I'm never bothered by voice changes as long as the new actor sounds or tries to sound like the previous one. DW6 terribly offended that in many cases, such as giving entire new voices to Sima Yi, Gan Ning, and Taischi Ci when their previous actors are still in the game.
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Sun Jian's voice in DW6 is awesome and sounds like the one he had in DW5, but the one in DW5 didn't do any of the expansions. The guy who did the one CAW voice took over for Sun Jian in the expansions (or at least Empires) and both WOs. Jiahe says he also plays Sun Jian in DW6 but I can hardly believe that. Are you perfectly sure?


In DW5, Sun Jian was voiced by Steven Blum.
In DW5:XL, DW5:E, WO1 and WO2, he was voiced by Grant George.
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i remember them doing this in DW4XL and DW4Empires as well. Zhou Yu, Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He and Zhu Rong (and probably a few others) had lines from their original DW4 voice actors mixed in with the new ones in the expansions. not really a new thing.
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I never realized about Yuan's voice.

But the same happened with Katsuie Shibata on SW 2 right?, cause the voice is very different from SW 2 to Xtreme legends, that really annoyed me, i prefered his original voice. T.T
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