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| ShadowOfBushido | Jul 22 2009, 12:48 AM Post #901 |
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Man, Nobunaga's possible new costume...awesome  I'm seeing some awesome costumes for the rest of the characters  Hopefully they'll have a language option in here
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| ChibiGingi | Jul 22 2009, 05:13 AM Post #902 |
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I want to be the first to say that I won't get my hopes up for the language option. It has nothing to do with it being on the Wii, but look at the past few games... I sincerely doubt Koei would add the option in, if they feel it's unnecessary. With that being said, though, that if it does get put in, then I'll be pleasantly surprised. I never got to hear the SW2 cast in Japanese so it'd be an interesting experience none the less. |
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| Loose Cannon | Jul 22 2009, 11:33 AM Post #903 |
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God I hope theres better VA then in DW6 I'd really like to see Koei make the character's stories a lot more varied, not full of people trying to conquer Japan or following their lord or their philosophies no one could understand. Maybe a few more tragedies or comedies. And do you think its too much for Koei to make the story modes longer and have different cinematics for each one. It was really irritating whenever honouji or okehazama came up  Edited by Loose Cannon, Jul 22 2009, 11:35 AM.
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| Liu Xaun | Jul 23 2009, 01:36 AM Post #904 |
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You mean you hope its better than SW2 VA. That was utter garbage compared to dw6. |
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| Da Qiao Forever | Jul 23 2009, 02:58 AM Post #905 |
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I really want some WO voice actors to do some characters for SW3. I want Karen Strassman to do Okuni because that's my favorite voice for her so far. Although I'm torn for Lady No's voice...I like all of her voices...although I didn't like her SW1 voice...Sorry guys I don't like Mary Elizabeth McGlynn...And I also want Nene's voice actress from WO to come back. That was my favorite voice for her! >_< I also liked Mitsunari's voice in WO. Not all of the Samurai Warriors 2 voice were bad...Yukimura's was my favorite. So was Masamune's. And Oichi's. And Ginchiyo's. And Gracia's. And Toshiie's. And Nagamasa's! Nothing can beat Nagamasa's in SW2! Though I hope they get voice actors here rather than Canada...I want voice actors I know! >_< |
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| Xanxus | Jul 23 2009, 03:01 AM Post #906 |
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Ouch... low blow  Who cares if you know them or not, as long as they're good it doesn't bother me. |
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| Divine Justice | Jul 23 2009, 03:23 AM Post #907 |
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Brad. Swaille. =( In all seriousness though, I'd just like the SW1 voices back. For the most part at least. Much as I love Kirk Thornton, he just wasn't Tadakatsu. I wouldn't mind him coming back as someone else, though. |
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| ChibiGingi | Jul 23 2009, 03:41 AM Post #908 |
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Hell, I didn't even know Kirk Thorton DID Tadakatsu! I want Robert Klein back as Ieyasu, though, even though the other guy does fit his personality better. Heck, I just want Daran Norris or Robert Klein SOMEWHERE in that cast list. That'd be swell. |
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| Kratos Aurion | Jul 23 2009, 06:14 AM Post #909 |
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..looking back, Lutai has to be the worst troll I've seen in the past six months. Anyways. When did Samurai Warriors even use Canadian dubbing? I wouldn't mind seeing good ol' Ocean Group doing some dubs, as long as Brad Swaile actually uses a different voice for once. He pulled off Auel pretty well, that sadist voice of his isn't bad. That being said, I had no idea Kirk Thornton voiced Tadakatsu in WO either..and SW2 did have SOME good voices, such as Mitsunari's overconfident douchebag voice, and Nagamasa's passionate *love Oichi* voice. Sure was better than his WO Guan Ping voice.. |
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| Hondam | Jul 23 2009, 06:37 AM Post #910 |
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Kirk voiced him in SWXL, not WO. And am I the only one who loved all of the SW1 VAs (Tadakatsu, Okuni, Hideyoshi, and the usual complaints included)? WO had some improvements from what I can remember, but personally none of the voices compare to the original's. And at least the SW1 voices were actually recorded with professional equipment (done by very professional and experienced VAs to add) and not in a basement of one of agilesound's employees with a computer mic and third-rate VAs. Edited by Hondam, Jul 23 2009, 06:38 AM.
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| ChibiGingi | Jul 23 2009, 06:50 AM Post #911 |
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I get where you're coming from- SW2 was a decent cast, but it seemed a little unprofessional, at least the sound quality. You could hear the weight of the recording devices when they spoke, especially in XL and Empires. Made them sound much deeper, grainy almost. Not saying they were horrible, but at least try to get some high quality equipment, right? BTW, whomever mentioned Ocean Dub, ILU. Forever. I'd be in heaven if Ocean Dub took over the dubbing. Never going to happen, but hey, one can have hopes. |
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| Astus | Jul 23 2009, 06:57 AM Post #912 |
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I believe a significant amount of people (myself included) share your sentiments regarding that. I personally prefer almost all the SW1 VAs to otheir SW2 counterparts. However, I wasn't bothered a large amount by the change for most, I just dealt with it. Though I felt that the newcomers were well done, from Mitsunari to Ginchiyo to even Ieyasu and Nagamasa (who as you know appeared as NPCs in the original) but maybe that was due to me forming attachments with the returning characters. Ideally I would like a mix of both but that is a pipe dream. But if one team were to dub SW3 I would pick a returning SW1 cast any day. Though I must say, a Japanese VA option would not go astray in any case. |
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| LittleDragonZ | Jul 23 2009, 07:53 AM Post #913 |
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On the subject of Tadakatsu, he needs a new voice actor. I just find that he currently is doing a much better job with Sun Jian now in the DW series. Plus Koei, likely to do with translation, in SW2 gave him some rather ridiculous quotes/dialogue making him sound rather stupid in my opinion. On the subject of Nobunaga's supposed design, I'm really liking it. But let's see what it's like in 3D. Edited by LittleDragonZ, Jul 23 2009, 07:54 AM.
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| Kratos Aurion | Jul 23 2009, 06:01 PM Post #914 |
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Ah, that makes more sense. I always remembered Kirk's voice being Honganji Kennyo and the generic officer (and having awesome voices for generics really blew me away, especially after DW..) but the Tadakatsu voice..man, I never recognized that. It was so..different. Not that it's a bad thing. Ocean dub actually did Devil Kings; that's why I wouldn't always count them out for voicing a game like this..if KOEI were to use better voice actors next time, they could go the extra mile and get the Vancouver based VA's from Ocean Group..but somehow I doubt it, unless they really wanted to make an effort appealing to the North American markets. And for the record, I liked ALL of the SW1 VA's more than ANY SW2 VA replacement. Excluding Nagamasa, of course. Edited by Kratos Aurion, Jul 23 2009, 06:02 PM.
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| Seraphil | Jul 23 2009, 10:10 PM Post #915 |
The name is Okuni of Izumo... shall we dance to this ballad of fire and steel?
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Crappy voice acting on state-of-the-art pro equipment is still crappy voice acting. This argument offends me as a voice actor. Talent doesn't come from having the best fancy equipment, it comes from your own acting ability. Some of SW2 voice acting sucked, yes. That goes for pretty much every Warriors game. At the same time, some of it was brilliant. That goes for pretty much every Warriors game too. I like both the overall quality of SW1's voices better, yes. But SW2 has a handful of voices that just have so much more heart and feeling than SW1's. Great SW1 voices - KENSHIN, Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, Hanzo, Mitsuhide, Oichi, Warrior Generic Poor SW1 voices - Okuni, Ranmaru, Tadakatsu, No Great SW2 voices - HIDEYOSHI, Ieyasu, Motochika, Sakon, Katsuie, Shingen Poor SW2 voices - Mitsuhide, Ranmaru, CAW |
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| Mooglez | Jul 24 2009, 01:29 AM Post #916 |
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I hope they use all of the WO voice actors because I prefer them ones better for ALL of the characters (which is kinda wierd...) I think the new Nobunaga outfit looks awesome ^^ and I also think its genuine because of the way they put in his weapon and it is a brilliant drawing that only a professional could do... unless someone has A LOT of spare time x3 does anyone know how it got leaked out? (if it is genuine) |
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| ShadowOfBushido | Jul 24 2009, 04:23 AM Post #917 |
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HAHAHAHA! you must be kidding me! They NEED to at least give Koei his VA from SW1. His VA from WO imo SUCKED MORE than his VA in SW2. 
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| ChibiGingi | Jul 24 2009, 05:17 AM Post #918 |
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Just curious, but why did you capitalize Kenshin and Hideyoshi? And I wasn't saying they were bad solely because of the poor equipment. Sure as hell didn't help their case though. As you said, bad VA work is bad VA work. So sorry to offend. Either was, so long as it doesn't sound like DW3 English cast, I'm game. Getting worked up over VA work is just fruitless at this point if I'm just going to grow to ignore them anyway. |
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| Kratos Aurion | Jul 24 2009, 05:36 AM Post #919 |
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..really? I didn't think his voice was great, just better than most of the other voice actors. That being said, I totally prefer Richard Epcar as Shingen from SW1. He had the cultured, wise old man voice...his new one was just silly. |
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| ChibiGingi | Jul 24 2009, 05:40 AM Post #920 |
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Well, the problem with some of the VAs in SW1 is that some of them, or a lot of them, have one distinct voice. Kenshin, for example... well, he sounds the same, no matter the character, but it's the line and the emotions he has that supposedly makes the difference. (Don't get me wrong, love that guy... only real redeeming factor for Dian Wei for me) Same goes for Richard... great voice actor, but he really does sound the same in each role. Kirk Thorton can apparently hide his voice well, though, as I replayed a level with Tadakatsu in SW1XL and am STILL surprised that's him. I guess, though, I'd rather someone that sound good (if not the same) than someone that just sounds horrible in all the different types of voices he has (... sorry Tony Oliver, but GTFO my Warriors games, kk?) |
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| Hondam | Jul 24 2009, 06:33 AM Post #921 |
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When was this angle ever brought up before your post, though? I don't think anyone was saying that the sole cause of great voice acting in SW1 was from equipment alone. I didn't even bring up the subject of the recording quality until I was talking about how it detracted from SW2, not vice-a-versa with SW1. So...no need to take offense? And yeah, talent comes from an actors own ability- something the SW1 actors had plenty of (majority of them anyway. Blum? Thorton? Epcar? Billingsea?) and something the SW2 actors had very little of. My biggest problem with the whole subject of the VAs in SW2: The fact that KOEI blatantly downgraded in both actors (ability, experience, professionalism, everything. I could be wrong, but weren't SW2 and some other koei game the only projects agilesound had done, or had been doing for awhile?) and even the damn quality of the recordings. I guess I'm just angry at KOEI. I mean, how does a company so blatantly downgrade something like that? Yeah it's probably money in the end, and that's why I hate that they only really care about that.
Katsuie: His voice was one of the worst for me. Maybe it was more so the presentation than the voice, but hearing Katsuie deliberately portrayed as an oaf was terrible. Shingen: Really? Do you prefer SW2 Shingen over SW1 Shingen, though? I guess his VA was passable in SW2, but as Kratos said: Epcar was an amazing fit in SW1. |
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| aeonlord92 | Jul 24 2009, 09:34 AM Post #922 |
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I can't remember most of the peoples voice actors in SW1 so I can't compare SW2's voice actors to them but I can compare them to the WO voice actors. I can't think of a single person whose voice I prefer in WO to SW2 - all the ones that changed I absolutely hated (hideyoshi springs instantly to mind). The quality of the sound was a bit better; SW2's was a bit off, but the Voice actors themselves were better in SW2. The voice actors might not have been well known or the best voice actors in the world but they were better then the WO ones at any rate. The ones that I really remeber hating were Hideyoshi, Kojiro, Shingen and Okuni. Overall though, unless the voice actors in SW3 are truely awful, I think I'll get used to the new voices just as i did between SW1 and SW2. |
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| forweg | Jul 24 2009, 10:29 AM Post #923 |
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I'd take ANYTHING over the WO voices. |
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| Scott | Jul 24 2009, 01:28 PM Post #924 |
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Hideyoshi's atrocious WO Voice should be more than enough to deter everyone from wanting the WO set back. Don't get me wrong, I like Bosch as Yukimura, but the vast majority fell flat, with Hideyoshi being an insult. Now...SW1 had some great ones. Keiji, Shingen, Noh, and Kenshin spring to mind immediately, but the rest were pretty bland to terrible. SW2 had some great voices too. Magoichi, Kanetsugu, and Hideyoshi were some of the very best voices I've heard in Koei Games, especially Hideyoshi. Kojiro, Chosokabe, Nagamasa, and Oichi are all voiced very well in 2. I'd also take Shingen's SW2 voice actor OVER Epcar because I doubt Epcar could pull off the more silly lines. I'll say it. I hate SW1 Nobunaga. The acting is okay at best and the voice itself is so Generically "I am evil", that it makes sick. Even worse to know everyone prefers it over the amazing Actor that we got in SW2. The Voice no longer suits him visually or personality wise. I'm pretty certain we'll never get Blum, Freeman, Epcar and McGlynn back due to some having gone Union and others not returning in WO. |
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| Divine Justice | Jul 24 2009, 02:42 PM Post #925 |
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I'm sorry, but... there's just no way you could say he was better than Lex Lang. The two sounded very similar, but there was a clear lack of experience in the SW2 guy. It's not that he was bad or anything, I just wouldn't call him great by any means.
I think that's kind of the point though. They really shouldn't have had those lines in the first place. I can't count how many times they insulted my intelligence in that game. If you're going to change lines to add in jokes, at the very least make them funny... or you know, relevant.
...I'm speechless. What exactly was so amazing about him in SW2? He was easily the most bland, monotonous voice in the entire cast. The WO guy had a similar take on the role, but at least his presentation was decent. I just really don't understand, especially this one. |
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