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SW3 Hopes, Predictions and Speculations
Topic Started: Oct 2 2008, 08:22 PM (18,084 Views)
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No, i hope it doesn't sell good for wii, but it will. Wii has the best sales of all the consoles, and in japan it will sell, and it will sell a lot.
In the NA and EU it wont sell as much, but it will still sell, but not nearly as close to japans sales, which will skyrocket.

Personally i think us PS3/XBOX 360 users will get a crappy port with bad graphics... it sucks but i will probly skip SW3, and i was so excited for it, its my favourite series.

I just dont understand! Kantana bombed big time, why would they try again???
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They didn't say whether or not this was exclusive to the wii so maybe ps2/ps3/360 will get a port. If that is so I don't see why they would even announce it for the wii the safer and better route would have been announce it for the ps2/ps3/360/wii so far this is looking about as hopeless as Musous Orochi Z coming to NA
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It's a bit disappointing when I come to this thread with intentions to see some nice SW3 discussion, when instead I am greeted with incessant whining about it not being on the 360 or PS3 at launch, or possibly at all. This whining has been going on from day one of SW3's announcement... and it really reminds me of why I stopped frequenting these boards in the first place.

Get over it. If the prospect of the game not being released on one of your high-end systems does not sit well with you, don't come crying here. This is a board for Koei GAMES discussion, not their marketing strategies or decisions. If you don't like it, then make a board to discuss those matters. It's immature to come here crying over something which you don't have any control over. Live with it. And for the love of heaven, don't condone Koei for making the decision either. Threatening to NOT buy the game is.. not going to change anything, sorry.

Back on topic.. well here are some things I hope to see.

I want them to not cut out any characters. SW doesn't have anywhere near the amount of characters that DW has, and they all still manage to retain unique movesets. I don't why this trend can't continue into this iteration. It appears as if they're only adding a few new characters too (If those characters we saw are the only new ones) so it shouldn't be hard to keep it unique.

As long as they keep the gameplay AWAY from the debacle that was SW Katana, I think we'll have it made in the shade.

They should bring back some battles. Inaba, Ise-Nagashima mostly, though I'm sure they could fabricate the story a little to bring back Azuchi (Which was a kickass stage).

Not really much else to think of at the moment... SW1 had it's flaws that SW1XL fixed, SW2 in my eyes was pretty damn near perfect for a Warriors game, SW2 Empires and the XL just built on the already solid foundation. I hope SW3 doesn't disappoint.
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It's a bit disappointing when I come to this thread with intentions to see some nice SW3 discussion, when instead I am greeted with incessant whining about it not being on the 360 or PS3 at launch, or possibly at all. This whining has been going on from day one of SW3's announcement... and it really reminds me of why I stopped frequenting these boards in the first place.

Get over it. If the prospect of the game not being released on one of your high-end systems does not sit well with you, don't come crying here. This is a board for Koei GAMES discussion, not their marketing strategies or decisions. If you don't like it, then make a board to discuss those matters. It's immature to come here crying over something which you don't have any control over. Live with it. And for the love of heaven, don't condone Koei for making the decision either. Threatening to NOT buy the game is.. not going to change anything, sorry.

Back on topic.. well here are some things I hope to see.

I want them to not cut out any characters. SW doesn't have anywhere near the amount of characters that DW has, and they all still manage to retain unique movesets. I don't why this trend can't continue into this iteration. It appears as if they're only adding a few new characters too (If those characters we saw are the only new ones) so it shouldn't be hard to keep it unique.

As long as they keep the gameplay AWAY from the debacle that was SW Katana, I think we'll have it made in the shade.

They should bring back some battles. Inaba, Ise-Nagashima mostly, though I'm sure they could fabricate the story a little to bring back Azuchi (Which was a kickass stage).

Not really much else to think of at the moment... SW1 had it's flaws that SW1XL fixed, SW2 in my eyes was pretty damn near perfect for a Warriors game, SW2 Empires and the XL just built on the already solid foundation. I hope SW3 doesn't disappoint.
People are alowed to rwrite whatever they want :rolleyes:

Not everyone has a wii so the fact that it might not be on other systems is upsetting. IT makes the game unplayable, and i dont see how thats wrong at all.Also, how is not wanting to buy the game threatening? Its no threat at all, i simply dont want to buy a game that looks bad and isn't even on a system i have, it would be pointless to buy this game for me right now.

I think people on this forum mix up whining and voicing your opinion, you being one of them, no offence.

At least this thread is active. Before it was dead, at least now theres some activity going on.
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It's a bit disappointing when I come to this thread with intentions to see some nice SW3 discussion, when instead I am greeted with incessant whining about it not being on the 360 or PS3 at launch, or possibly at all. This whining has been going on from day one of SW3's announcement... and it really reminds me of why I stopped frequenting these boards in the first place.

Get over it. If the prospect of the game not being released on one of your high-end systems does not sit well with you, don't come crying here. This is a board for Koei GAMES discussion, not their marketing strategies or decisions. If you don't like it, then make a board to discuss those matters. It's immature to come here crying over something which you don't have any control over. Live with it. And for the love of heaven, don't condone Koei for making the decision either. Threatening to NOT buy the game is.. not going to change anything, sorry.

Back on topic.. well here are some things I hope to see.

I want them to not cut out any characters. SW doesn't have anywhere near the amount of characters that DW has, and they all still manage to retain unique movesets. I don't why this trend can't continue into this iteration. It appears as if they're only adding a few new characters too (If those characters we saw are the only new ones) so it shouldn't be hard to keep it unique.

As long as they keep the gameplay AWAY from the debacle that was SW Katana, I think we'll have it made in the shade.

They should bring back some battles. Inaba, Ise-Nagashima mostly, though I'm sure they could fabricate the story a little to bring back Azuchi (Which was a kickass stage).

Not really much else to think of at the moment... SW1 had it's flaws that SW1XL fixed, SW2 in my eyes was pretty damn near perfect for a Warriors game, SW2 Empires and the XL just built on the already solid foundation. I hope SW3 doesn't disappoint.
I dont really care if you think I shouldn't post my opinion or not especially since I am posting about the game.
I expect this gen of games to have good graphics, better gameplay, and decent story. In two of those three categories the wii fails to produce (katana anyone?).
I want this Koei GAME to be good but the system it is produced on has a huge effect on that.
If we want more characters, unique fighting styles, and more stories we need them to be on a console that has the power to produce that.
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Well, we can't threaten not to buy the game? Why bother, when we don't have the system to get game with to begin with? Hm? Koei has to realize, that if the tons of Mario, the Zelda games, SSBB, Metroid and all the millions of crappy exciting party games haven't gotten a lot of their fans to get a Wii, then SW3 sure as hell isn't. Sure, there will be a few loyal sheep consumers that will purchase a Wii, JUST for SW3. And that's their decision to make, and good for them if they're that loyal. But really, I'm not getting a Wii, JUST one this game. Not when I can mooch off of a relative. After Katana and the disappointment that was DW6, not worth the heartache.

As for telling people not to whine, that's like beating a dead horse. A lot of us are still whining about DW6, myself included. Why? Because Koei still hasn't fixed the overall issue yet. You can't go into a forum and expect disgruntled (and rightfully so) fans not to WHINE about something; if you do, then you need to reconsider how you spend your time on a forum, really. There is no rule on this forum that says 'YOU CANNOT BE UPSET AT KOEI'S DECISIONS'. And if there is, then I'll pack my bags and leave, because if I wanted a one-sided conversation, I'd go talk to a wall. Seriously, not everyone is going to be thrilled that it -might- be a Wii exclusive... sounds like you need to get over it. If the excessive whining bothers you, ignore it, and try to derail the topic elsewhere. Like, instead of whining about us whining, you could have just said 'I'm looking forward to this title because of this', and some of us MIGHT have followed suit.

At the moment, I'm not planning on getting this game. I just don't care much for the Wii and its gimmick, especially not enough to make me rush out to buy one. Is that Koei's problem? Nope. I could go on and on about how much I think the Wii is overrated, but that's just beating a dead horse. Like DW6. 9_9 Don't feel like it tonight.

Just ignore the whinefest and start up conversation, because besides that, there is very little facts to talk about. All we have are speculations and hopes, which might eventually be shattered to a million pieces, just as easily as they can be appeased. Who knows? KOEI'S NOT GIVING MUCH FOR US TO TALK ABOUT!

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Give us more information, dammit.
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While true most people do not think before writing, or in this case- posting.

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Not everyone has a wii so the fact that it might not be on other systems is upsetting.


Not everyone has a PS3. Not everyone has a 360. Though depending on the type of game SW3 is going to be, we don't know if it will even be portable as of yet. Dooming the game so early however isn't the way to go. And KOEI luckily, is a semi-smart company. They've ported DW titles on the PS2 over to the XBOX many times and when DW6 was released it was on both 360 and PS3.

Does this might means you have to wait for SW3 to be released on these systems? Maybe. Is it a big deal? That depends on how much you like the series. It's not as if the 360/PS3 libraries are trumped by the Wii's.


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IT makes the game unplayable, and i dont see how thats wrong at all.


...Moving on,

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Also, how is not wanting to buy the game threatening?


If you don't want to buy a game, that's your choice. But don't come filling up a thread with "OH I AM NOT BUYING THIS CAUSE.... I DON'T WANT TO" because that takes a discussion nowhere and only generates a flame war. And as the mods have stressed multiple times, this is not a thread to bash the Wii but talk about SW3, which we have little info on. If you have no access to the game at present, then that is your problem.

For a long time after DW6 was released, I didn't have a 360 or a PS3.. yet I kept checking back to see how the game was even though I didn't have access to it. Did I REFUSE to buy the game because it was on one of these systems I did not own? No, because to think that way is childish and doesn't get one anywhere. Interest in the game itself is what kept me going even though I did not own (Or even plan to own one of these systems at the time) a PS3 or 360.



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Its no threat at all, i simply dont want to buy a game that looks bad


Yes, I'm sure you can deduct from all 4 screenshots of the game that it's going to be bad. :P

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it would be pointless to buy this game for me right now.


Probably the same for all of us, since we don't even know what it contains. Condemning a game before it is released however, is generally foolish.

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I think people on this forum mix up whining and voicing your opinion, you being one of them, no offence.


I also don't think anyone is paying attention to what the mods have stated. You know, about this being a discussion for the game itself. Hoping something is not on a system or hoping it gets ported over is still indirect bashing of the Wii. In short, just because you don't have one doesn't give you the right to hate it.

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At least this thread is active. Before it was dead, at least now theres some activity going on.


Not the kind the thread is meant for, unfortunately.


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I dont really care if you think I shouldn't post my opinion or not especially since I am posting about the game.


I don't care if you post your opinion. I am annoyed if you directly or indirectly bash the Wii. This isn't what this thread is for.

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I expect this gen of games to have good graphics, better gameplay, and decent story. In two of those three categories the wii fails to produce (katana anyone?).


Highly ignorant statement, and Wii bashing! While the graphics potential is obviously lower than the 360 and PS3, you're dooming this game to the fate of Katana already, and that is ignorant. You haven't a clue at what Koei is planning and I'm sure as hell that they've learned their lesson from Katana.

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I want this Koei GAME to be good but the system it is produced on has a huge effect on that.


And depending on what type of game it is, it might be BAD on the PS3 and 360, you don't know this.

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If we want more characters, unique fighting styles, and more stories we need them to be on a console that has the power to produce that.


Hmm. Koei ported DW6 from the PS3/360 to the PS2 and ADDED characters and stages.

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Well, we can't threaten not to buy the game? Why bother, when we don't have the system to get game with to begin with? Hm?


That is your choice, and as it stands, has no effect on Koei's decisions.

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Koei has to realize, that if the tons of Mario, the Zelda games, SSBB, Metroid and all the millions of crappy exciting party games haven't gotten a lot of their fans to get a Wii, then SW3 sure as hell isn't.


Opinion. If the Wii's library does not appeal to you, it's obviously not the overall concensus of the system. You must remember in Japan, the Wii dominates. I don't really think they care if they're appealing to the western gamer or not. You're also in the mindset that Koei fans are people who dislike/do not own Wiis. I would wonder how you acquired this information!

Also Wii bashing- not allowed. :Toad:

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But really, I'm not getting a Wii, JUST one this game.


Good, no one cares. This is not the place to complain about SW3, it's a place to discuss what you hope is in it.

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After Katana and the disappointment that was DW6, not worth the heartache.


If losing faith in Koei is the problem, perhaps you should look to other developers for a while. I have confidence they're not going to release something similar to the debacle of Katana. Nowhere does it say Samurai Warriors 3: KATANA! It's simply Samurai Warriors 3. We can only wait to see what they have in store.

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As for telling people not to whine, that's like beating a dead horse. A lot of us are still whining about DW6, myself included.


It's different when the mods locked a thread, and made a specific STICKIED thread warning about the bashing of the Wii, be it directly hating or indirectly- which many are still doing. I suppose this thread is simply not looked over enough, though I definitely now know why.

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Because Koei still hasn't fixed the overall issue yet.


So you want Koei to go "Oops, we messed up! -Releases DW6 minus renbu with the old combo system back-"? If only it were that easy. They learn from their releases and provide upgrades in the next in the series. Renbu wasn't popular, so don't expect it to return. Problem solved. But I doubt Koei is going to admit failure and release a 'fixed' version of a game anytime soon.

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You can't go into a forum and expect disgruntled (and rightfully so) fans not to WHINE about something; if you do, then you need to reconsider how you spend your time on a forum, really. There is no rule on this forum that says 'YOU CANNOT BE UPSET AT KOEI'S DECISIONS'.


There's a difference between whining and discussion. One is definitely not welcome, while the other is encouraged. If your only suggestion to this thread is "GEE I HOPE THIS IS PORTED. NEVERMIND THAT 210819378 PEOPLE BEFORE ME HAVE SAID THE SAME THING LOL", then you really don't need to post it.. again.

I expect people to be angered, and by now it's pretty damn well known a lot of people are upset by Koei's decision. That's fine. Now grow the hell up and move on. If you keep dragging it on and on, it only makes it worse, and drives the wound deeper. One of the reasons I stopped coming here was because I was tired of everyone saying how horrid DW6 was. It. Never. Ended. How many times MUST it be said it's bad before people finally give up and realize.. it's not going to magically change?

This is NOT the place to post that believe it or not, it's just if the mods took action they'd be occupied 24/7. I don't think anyone here would devote entire days out of their life to cleaning out an internet forum.

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And if there is, then I'll pack my bags and leave, because if I wanted a one-sided conversation, I'd go talk to a wall.


The mods have stated that it's not the place to vent FRUSTRATION AND ANGERR. They are not telling you to place a portrait of the Koei logo in a small altar and give offerings each night to it.

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Seriously, not everyone is going to be thrilled that it -might- be a Wii exclusive... sounds like you need to get over it.


I don't remember ever saying I was thrilled by it being on the Wii. I'm just about as skeptical as everyone else, especially with Katana on Koei's track record. I am not, however, condoning it to AUTOMATIC FAILURE like so many are.

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If the excessive whining bothers you, ignore it, and try to derail the topic elsewhere. Like, instead of whining about us whining, you could have just said 'I'm looking forward to this title because of this', and some of us MIGHT have followed suit.


As it stands, the only thing to look forward to right now is the fact that it's on the Wii, which is.. literally the only info we have at the moment. Ohh we have silhouettes yes.. but no idea who they are. =P

And I am far from whining or derailing- I'm attempting to put the Wii hate to rest once and for all, and get some HOPEFUL discussion back on track, as fruitless as it's turning out to be.

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At the moment, I'm not planning on getting this game. I just don't care much for the Wii and its gimmick, especially not enough to make me rush out to buy one. Is that Koei's problem? Nope. I could go on and on about how much I think the Wii is overrated, but that's just beating a dead horse. Like DW6. 9_9 Don't feel like it tonight.


Thanks for saving us your hate. I could go on and on as well at how utterly pointless it is to drag on about how much people hate the w- oops.. hey I think I did. >_>

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Just ignore the whinefest and start up conversation, because besides that, there is very little facts to talk about. All we have are speculations and hopes, which might eventually be shattered to a million pieces, just as easily as they can be appeased. Who knows? KOEI'S NOT GIVING MUCH FOR US TO TALK ABOUT!


Exactly, but it doesn't help to lay on the hate on the Wii before you know anything about the game. If you've got nothing good to say, then please consider posting before you do. Chances are no one wants to hear it, and there are even better chances that your discussion will only bring you down more.

I'm not going to continue this discussion, as it's only detracting further from this thread's original intent. Just a reminder for you folks though... as stated, this is not the thread to place hate on the wii. Make your own forums and bash it to your heart's content I don't care. xP But not here.

Not only is it my request, but that of the administration here as well. Be courteous to them and to everyone else wondering just what this crazy game's going to be about, and keep the hate out.

Heading to bed now, here's to hoping more of this game is revealed to us sooner rather than later.
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So, wait, we can't say anything remotely negative about the Wii? What, is Nintendo secretly funding this forum now? Geesh, Nintendo, accept the fact that not everyone is completely enamored (that's a word, right?) with your console. And I didn't think that me saying 'I'm not buying a console I just don't want/need for one game' was considered bashing the console. Just... stating a fact. I don't hate the Wii- I think it has great potential, if not clouded by Miyamoto's obsessive need to appeal to the casual gamer. So, sorry if it looked as if I was jumping the 'I HATE Wii' bandwagon. Just don't feel like getting one.

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So you want Koei to go "Oops, we messed up! -Releases DW6 minus renbu with the old combo system back-"? If only it were that easy. They learn from their releases and provide upgrades in the next in the series. Renbu wasn't popular, so don't expect it to return. Problem solved. But I doubt Koei is going to admit failure and release a 'fixed' version of a game anytime soon.


Actually, Renbu had little to do with my hatred; more like the cloned characters, lack of stories (and what few stories they had were bogged down with so much 'phisosophical' bullcrap and uninteresting to me), how rushed it was, and then it being released on an old console with only 6 new stories/weapon changes (then not even released in their more supporting EU owners). But, once again, beating the dead horse, which I seem to enjoy. I must be a masochist.


Sorry if it came out that way. I was more irritated that it seemed you were pretty much telling us to shut the hell up (which you did, but I understand your reasoning now). So, I'll drop the whole 'Wii' issue. Still not sure why we can't criticize one system but the others are completely fair game, but whatever. Not my place to make decisions here.

Now, back to talking about SW3. Oh, that's right, no new info. Hohum... Silhouettes and guessing only go so far with me. I take the Squall approach to a lot of things; if I don't get my expectations high, I won't be as disappointed if it doesn't go according to plan. Hence why I won't speculate... I'll just get my hope up. I'll just wait for Koei to post more info and comment from there... I have no idea what they're planning anymore.
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While true most people do not think before writing, or in this case- posting.

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Not everyone has a wii so the fact that it might not be on other systems is upsetting.


Not everyone has a PS3. Not everyone has a 360. Though depending on the type of game SW3 is going to be, we don't know if it will even be portable as of yet. Dooming the game so early however isn't the way to go. And KOEI luckily, is a semi-smart company. They've ported DW titles on the PS2 over to the XBOX many times and when DW6 was released it was on both 360 and PS3.

Does this might means you have to wait for SW3 to be released on these systems? Maybe. Is it a big deal? That depends on how much you like the series. It's not as if the 360/PS3 libraries are trumped by the Wii's.


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IT makes the game unplayable, and i dont see how thats wrong at all.


...Moving on,

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Also, how is not wanting to buy the game threatening?


If you don't want to buy a game, that's your choice. But don't come filling up a thread with "OH I AM NOT BUYING THIS CAUSE.... I DON'T WANT TO" because that takes a discussion nowhere and only generates a flame war. And as the mods have stressed multiple times, this is not a thread to bash the Wii but talk about SW3, which we have little info on. If you have no access to the game at present, then that is your problem.

For a long time after DW6 was released, I didn't have a 360 or a PS3.. yet I kept checking back to see how the game was even though I didn't have access to it. Did I REFUSE to buy the game because it was on one of these systems I did not own? No, because to think that way is childish and doesn't get one anywhere. Interest in the game itself is what kept me going even though I did not own (Or even plan to own one of these systems at the time) a PS3 or 360.



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Its no threat at all, i simply dont want to buy a game that looks bad


Yes, I'm sure you can deduct from all 4 screenshots of the game that it's going to be bad. :P

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it would be pointless to buy this game for me right now.


Probably the same for all of us, since we don't even know what it contains. Condemning a game before it is released however, is generally foolish.

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I think people on this forum mix up whining and voicing your opinion, you being one of them, no offence.


I also don't think anyone is paying attention to what the mods have stated. You know, about this being a discussion for the game itself. Hoping something is not on a system or hoping it gets ported over is still indirect bashing of the Wii. In short, just because you don't have one doesn't give you the right to hate it.

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At least this thread is active. Before it was dead, at least now theres some activity going on.


Not the kind the thread is meant for, unfortunately.


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Your right, sometimes we have to think before posting, but if someone is angry they dont always care.

I know not everyone has a PS3 or a XBOX, thats why i want this game to come out on all systems, so everyone gets the chance to play it, this exclusive crap is rather silly. It would still bother me if this was a PS3 exclusive or even a XBOX exclusive (even though i have a XBOX i would still rant on how its unfair to other people.)

I dont mind if i have to wait a bit, but so far we still know nothing, besides that its on the wii, it still might go multi-platform, but for now we can only hope.

No-one said "OH I AM NOT BUYING THIS CAUSE.... I DON'T WANT TO", which i have to say is reasonable, considering games dont always appeal to people and they just dont know why. Maybey im stupid, but i dont see how that generates a flame war. Personally, i haven't bashed the wii, i dont hate the wii, i just dont have one, is it "wii-bashing" to not own a wii and complain when their favourite series is moved to "wii-only" but not directly insult the wii or say they hate it?

SO you still wanted to buy the game when you couldn't? thats fair, since im assuming you got the game in the end, as a port. I definately would refuse to buy a game that i dont have the system its on, since its impossible to get it.

the thing is with me, is that i want a port, i want SW3, and since wii will make it first, it will change the game dramaticly, it has a diferent control system, its completely diferent, and if the other systems get the port, im afraid it wont be the same SW we all loved.

You cut off the rest of my sentence, i said "Its no threat at all, i simply dont want to buy a game that looks bad or isn't on a system i own" which explains itself.

i dont think its foolish at all to condemn a game before its released, especially if enough info is given, which in this case the only info thats there is that this game is for the wii only so far. That is enough to make my desiscion, why buy a game that i cant get?

This is a discussion of the game, and the current news about the game is that its on the wii, and thats exactly what we were discussing, untill you came along all "im right your wrong, shut up and listen to me"..."Hoping something is not on a system or hoping it gets ported over is still indirect bashing of the Wii." Your right about the first part, but the second part leaves me in a state of WTF? how is hoping that a game gets ported bashing a wii? will tou listen... SOME PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A WII AND THEREFORE HOPE IT COMES TO OTHER SYSTEMS. its as simple as that, no bashing to the wii at all.
i have never hated th wii, i think its a perfectly good idea amd is very amazing how it works, i just dont have one, and there is nothing wrong with not having a wii.


Everything was fine, there was no arguments or that sort, but then you came and started a flame war, ironicly saying that your trying to stop the flaming. You have to be carefull when posting, because most people were fine and not flaming at all, there were only one or two people, which you should have directed your post to.

this is now going grossly off-topic, a mod will step in, and Chibi Ginji said it perfectly, the more we speculate the more dissapointed we may be
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So you want Koei to go "Oops, we messed up! -Releases DW6 minus renbu with the old combo system back-"? If only it were that easy. They learn from their releases and provide upgrades in the next in the series. Renbu wasn't popular, so don't expect it to return. Problem solved. But I doubt Koei is going to admit failure and release a 'fixed' version of a game anytime soon.


this might be off topic for a second but this statement is not entirely true. one of the things koei could have fixed a lot of the problems with DW6 with DLC. they could have added more stories to all the characters. arranged the movesets of certain characters to get rid of the clones. they could have even added characters. but they didnt. unlike a lot of companys out their who offer a wide variety of DLC, i have yet to see koei make use of it on any of the consoles.

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im hoping the control scheme can stay similar to the way its been done in the past. even on the wii they could still keep a very similar feel to it.
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Jeez, there's like a whole page of people arguing
can't we all just get along peeps
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we dont have to worry about costume changes
Looks like another ninja is getting added aswell. or is that just Kunoichi?
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So you want Koei to go "Oops, we messed up! -Releases DW6 minus renbu with the old combo system back-"? If only it were that easy. They learn from their releases and provide upgrades in the next in the series. Renbu wasn't popular, so don't expect it to return. Problem solved. But I doubt Koei is going to admit failure and release a 'fixed' version of a game anytime soon.


this might be off topic for a second but this statement is not entirely true. one of the things koei could have fixed a lot of the problems with DW6 with DLC. they could have added more stories to all the characters. arranged the movesets of certain characters to get rid of the clones. they could have even added characters. but they didnt. unlike a lot of companys out their who offer a wide variety of DLC, i have yet to see koei make use of it on any of the consoles.

back to the topic.

im hoping the control scheme can stay similar to the way its been done in the past. even on the wii they could still keep a very similar feel to it.
The problem with Katan was that you were basically waving the wiimote around the entire time. I mean in that respect, it stayed faithful to it's Koei roots (Mashing one button the entire time :P) but the Wii with it's capabilities should be able to do so much more than just that.

The wii has several buttons on the Wiimote to make use of Here are my predictions:

1. Square, the normal attack (X on the 360) will be utilized by motions of the wiimote itself.
2. Triangle, the charge attack (Y on the 360) can be A on the wiimote. So to do SSST, you would wave the wiimote 3 times and press A.
3. Circle, musou (B on the 360) can be B, the trigger button on the Wiimote.
4. X, jump (A on the 360) can be up on the Wiimote's D-pad.

These are the basic controls. Now for the others.

To block, you could hold Down on the D-pad.
Rolling out of the way could be left or right on the d-pad.

The map display could be 1 or 2 on the wiimote.


In this way, I have adjusted the traditional PS/XBOX controls to the wiimote. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Oh and of course, the analog stick can be used to move around. xP

At any rate, use of the wiimote should be interesting to see how hey want it. I mean, if anyone's played Twilight Princess, the combat was basically the same when using the wiimote to slash and whatnot. It just remains to be seen, really.
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So guess what, thread locked. At this rate I'm just going to lock the entire SW3 section of the SW forum next until proper game info is released.
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YAY! The thread is back! :sly:

I think we can all agree that we should stop the wii subject.

I hope that some more character designs get realeased soon even though the Nobunaga one is rather old :crazy:

I think a new weapon system is in order :lol: maybey something inbetween buying skills for the weapon and weapon stages, like first you have bad weapon, then okay weapon, then good weapon, then very good weapon, then AWESOME WEAPON :D!!!!!!! And at each stage of the weapon you can buy add-ons like reach and strength and elements, and each add-on/skill gets level-ups (like up to 3) at the cost of money of course :hehe: And for elements you can choose which attacks get an element, like say you buy lightning element, you would then choose which attack gets te element... i.e Weak attack, or weakX2, weakX3 and so on and so on (same with Charge attacks)) i think this would reall help with a customization effect.

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*sneaks in, even though she was probably one of the benefactors for the locking of the thread to begin with* And for that I do apologize... ANYWAY.

I'm curious if the leaking of 'SW3 Nobunaga' now sets a time for Koei to at least release the character models. With Capcom announcing Sengoku Basara 3, as well as their fans spectulation, they might feel pressured to do so. It's about time, too... enough Dynasty Warriors 6. We can all pretend it doesn't exist for a little while, so long as SW3 looks good.

I still have little hope for the combat system, but no amount of whining will fix that. Who knows, maybe it'll be good, especially with the Wii Motion Plus added in.
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Listen this is not a thread that you can come and bash games and consoles. If you have nothing nice to say about a game then don't say it at all. That goes for everyone who was arguing. Any way, back on topic I reallly want to see some new stuff, like interesting story modes.
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Listen this is not a thread that you can come and bash games and consoles. If you have nothing nice to say about a game then don't say it at all. That goes for everyone who was arguing. Any way, back on topic I reallly want to see some new stuff, like interesting story modes.
Erm, we stopped doing that. You're probably reading old posts done before Seraphil had to lock this thread, because last I checked we all were kind of mellow about the console issue. So settle down, yes?

Anyway, I'd like for some more Eastern army officers, if only to balance out the two fractions. Seriously, for being the losers, I felt a whole lot of biasness towards the Western Army (like Shu in ROTK... they lost, but everyone loves them). Put more Eastern army people in- I know you can do it, Koei!

Also, at least one more officer from Masamune's ranks. Katakura Kojuuro (sp) would be enough for me, someone calmer and mellow to balance Masamune out. Not sure about keeping the Masa-Mago friendship (as it came off a little random to me), but hey, as long as it improves Masamune's character, I'm game.
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Listen this is not a thread that you can come and bash games and consoles. If you have nothing nice to say about a game then don't say it at all. That goes for everyone who was arguing. Any way, back on topic I reallly want to see some new stuff, like interesting story modes.
Erm, we stopped doing that. You're probably reading old posts done before Seraphil had to lock this thread, because last I checked we all were kind of mellow about the console issue. So settle down, yes?

Anyway, I'd like for some more Eastern army officers, if only to balance out the two fractions. Seriously, for being the losers, I felt a whole lot of biasness towards the Western Army (like Shu in ROTK... they lost, but everyone loves them). Put more Eastern army people in- I know you can do it, Koei!

Also, at least one more officer from Masamune's ranks. Katakura Kojuuro (sp) would be enough for me, someone calmer and mellow to balance Masamune out. Not sure about keeping the Masa-Mago friendship (as it came off a little random to me), but hey, as long as it improves Masamune's character, I'm game.
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Listen this is not a thread that you can come and bash games and consoles. If you have nothing nice to say about a game then don't say it at all. That goes for everyone who was arguing. Any way, back on topic I reallly want to see some new stuff, like interesting story modes.
hmmm.....Koei has a fan base. with this exclusive, they've segregated all of the people who have supported all their games thus far on sony or microsoft (yes i know back in the day they were on nintendo, but...). this may be an extreme comparison, but this type of segregation is somethin akin to a form of discrimination. making exclusive games for certain consoles is making somethin like this statement, "thanks for buying our other games we made for sony. now we want you to buy another console to play this new game of ours on. if you do not, you will not be able to play this game and enjoy a series you love."

anytime people are discriminated against, whether for skin color, weight, consoles you own, income, shoes, whatever, people are gonna get mad at you for doin it. people are hurt when anyone says we are not qualified or good enough to own this because we do not have a particular console. after buying games for years, this treatment definitely spurs people.

if you don't wanna hear complaints, just ignore them. people are not posting because they are trying to be mean or annoying. they are posting because their feelings are hurt because they feel they are being discriminated against. take that into account when you critisize wii bashers.

wii bashers here have probably never cared before about the wii at all. they weren't born wii bashers, they're disappointed and hurt. they saved their money and bought the best console they could that would have their favorite games on them. a lot of people can only afford one console. and when you've bought twenty games from koei to play on a sony system, then they won't let you play a much anticipated game on that sony system, people will get very angry.

if you don't like the comments, please just ignore them. post on another topic if you don't like the tone of this one. most people who critisize wii bashers own a wii. how can anyone not be a little upset? what if they announced it would only be released on dreamcast???? or gameboy advanced??? you know, a console type that most people don't have and don't enjoy. everyone should be upset and should be able to understand how hurtful this is to other people. that's all i wanted to say, sorry it's so long.
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Stop right there.

We, Moderators, have already said multiple times to NOT start the Wii bashing BS again.

One more post about it and I'm locking the entire SW3 section. I've told you people so many damn times, I'm sick of this stupidity.

It hasn't even been a page since my post where I locked the thread!
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I have seen no 'Wii Bashing' since you have reopened the thread.
Unless your referring to bruticus0's post which is not that by any means.
There was no "WI1 SUX ololololol. it have ugli graphix" or anything of that variation in his or her post. They presented a decent and well-thought out view and there was nothing 'stupid' about it. It was detailed in nature and presented the argument against the Wii in a respectful manner, which is completely different than a lot of posts which soiled this thread before.

People are welcome to present their views against the Wii, if they do so in such a manner as bruticus0. However if it is similar in manner to what we've seen in the past then there will be consequences. A little bit of brain matter and courtesy goes a long way in this case.

In any case, I'd just like to remind everyone to take a glance at Strikeforce and what's going on there. Just take that into account before taking "Wii Exclusive" to heart and feeling scorned. It will save everyone a lot of headache and will assist in keeping this place tranquil for everyone.

Now let's get back to discussing the possibilities that are presented with Samurai Warriors 3 and our wishes for it as it is what this thread is designed for. After all, that is always the most exciting part of awaiting a game (before the end product brings us back to reality :P ).
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moving on from that :whistle:
I don't mind it being on wii because the consol is capable of producing good graphics as proven by Mario Galaxy and others. Whether Omega Force tries for graphics doesn't usually bother me but it's just that if it decides to move consoles they should show why and improve to show it was a good idea for them to do that ^^
I don't think it will be like Katana because of Nobunaga's design. (most likely real) It is very detailed and looks like the kind of design they would use for a usual SW rather than Katana. Also Katana was a spinoff and not part of the main series ^^

I still have faith that Omega can pull it off but we will just have to wait until we get some real news 8D
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